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    Great!

    I think there's an adaptation that controls urban detection mode. I think it detects ambient light and won't turn on or something like that. You can fiddle with the adaptations in A5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathan16mk7R View Post
    So it automatically turns the brights on when you are in "normal" mode and leaves the brights on always in "bright" mode? That doesn't seem good. No way to disable bright lights.
    So I think there might actually be three settings, but I couldnt figure it out exactly.

    I was playing with the stock while driving and at one point, I managed to get it to turn into normal (i.e., how it was without programming) mode, and then switched it to Light Assist mode, then into high beam mode. But I couldnt get it to switch reliably. I need to see if theres documentation to see how it actually works.

    It would typically either go from Light Assist into Highbeam, I don't know how I got it to go into normal mode. Hmm...

    Edit: Found this thread after searching, it looks like you can turn it off by flicking the high beams. Ill have to experiment tomorrow.

    Edit: Another thread with more info. How "hard" you push the stock might effect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephantacos View Post
    So I think there might actually be three settings, but I couldnt figure it out exactly.

    I was playing with the stock while driving and at one point, I managed to get it to turn into normal (i.e., how it was without programming) mode, and then switched it to Light Assist mode, then into high beam mode. But I couldnt get it to switch reliably. I need to see if theres documentation to see how it actually works.

    It would typically either go from Light Assist into Highbeam, I don't know how I got it to go into normal mode. Hmm...
    Oh ok cool. As long as there is a way to disable it. I look forward to hearing if you get the bugs worked out and get to do some fine tuning. I remember seeing some parameters for it in the adaptations. I'll hopefully enable this on mine this coming weekend.

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    Here is the autoscan as promised. I found two faults when doing it, at 09 Cent Electronics, and 5F Information Electronics, though. So Im worried I screwed something up. Anyone able to help?


    Also, question about this screen: What is the difference between 01 and 02? Currently set to 02.



    Code:
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.3 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
    Data version: 20151216
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Tuesday,05,January,2016,20:04:38:35799
    
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 10 13 14 15 16 17 19 22 2B 3C 42 44 52 55 5F
              75 A5 A9
    
    VIN: WVWUF7AU5GW181873   Mileage: 1506km-935miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
    A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CYFB)       Labels: 06K-907-425-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 906 259 H    HW: 06K 907 425 E
       Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002
       Revision: --H13---
       Coding: 091900122446000E3004
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259H 001003
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259H_VW37.rod
       VCID: 45AFAA42C42A311602-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 AA    HW: 3Q0 907 379 F
       Component: ESC           H42 0623
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62875000000913
       Coding: 01FA6BA15428096D057F030741C66980D62A90A0C08296B7144050D4C088
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034036
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 79D716B2F85285F636-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5Q0-959-435.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435
       Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604
       Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0385177120
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
       ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3A55C9BEBDD44EEE7F-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 BD    HW: 5G0 907 044 BD
       Component: Climatronic   H03 1001
       Revision: 00001K08
       Coding: 00020004200100000105004012111402
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 004131
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_SK37.rod
       VCID: 6AF539FE8DF43E6ECF-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 085 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 085 AF
       Component: BCM MQBAB HNA H24 0175
       Serial number: 01061530600193
       Coding: 00010B46C041A2E169E44000091C07201800000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 015001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
       VCID: 01277E529082DD367E-8054
    
       Slave 1:
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    151013  043 0551
       Serial number:         151031030940
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Slave 2:
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLHS  037 0059
       Serial number: S5Y15M11D16H08M45S58
       Coding: 96A8DD
    
    1 Fault Found:
    534549 - Databus
              U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 94
                        Mileage: 1323 km
                        Date: 2016.01.03
                        Time: 17:40:43
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 K    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0054
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391531308190
       Coding: 0071155001
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002026
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_SK48.rod
       VCID: 43ABB45ACA1E0F262C-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels: 5Q0-907-572.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 F    HW: 5Q0 907 572 F
       Component: ACC Bosch MQB H05 0400
       Serial number: 29081503271114
       Coding: 01004700FE0739
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001016
       ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3A55C9BEBDD44EEE7F-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 5Q0-907-376.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 376 A    HW: 5Q0 907 376 A
       Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H17 0120
       Serial number: 13101541350136
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DRCONTITEMIC 001019
       ROD: EV_DRCONTITEMIC.rod
       VCID: 3753D08A8EC6538680-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
       Component: AirbagVW20    010 0830
       Serial number: 003GCR03VDH-
       Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002144
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 47B3A04AFE262306F0-8012
    
       Seat occupant detection; front passenger side:
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021
       Serial number: IBH000000000003EMNXC
       Coding: 30324E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 910 15
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
       Serial number: 35700000000C4898371O
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side:
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 910 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
       Serial number: 35800000000760146715
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side:
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 511 15
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149
       Serial number: 3510002C71D73C63A2AB
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side:
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 511 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149
       Serial number: 3520002C91D73C61412/
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 311 15
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149
       Serial number: 3550002A11D3F98291EF
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side:
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 311 15
       Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149
       Serial number: 3560002BB1D25F03C3CI
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 HN    HW: 5Q0 953 549 E
       Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0120
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 20101504220616
       Coding: 0C00
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_SE37.rod
       VCID: 09376672A8B2957626-805C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 858 A    HW: 5G1 920 858 A
       Component: KOMBI         303 6420
       Coding: 0BAD08127F88CF0502886A0B5400000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 2E7DF5EE719C924ED3-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AJ    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
       Component: GW MQB High   212 2246
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 27101510800040
       Coding: 0101000838085900FB00023A880F00000001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewConti.rod
       VCID: 79D716B2F85285F636-802C
    
       Alternator:
    
       Multifunction unit control module:
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 S    HW: 5G0 959 442 S
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H11 0040
       Serial number: 29150002053110065423
       Coding: 34FFFF
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 H    HW: 0CQ 525 130
       Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7083
       Serial number: HA1-00016.09.15
       Coding: 0001
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 004013
       ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_AU21.rod
       VCID: 4AB5997EED34DE6EEF-801E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5Q0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
       Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000241648005
       Coding: 5500000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3449E7869FB0B89EA5-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
       Component: HRE_Master    H11 0071
       Serial number: 0385121932
       Coding: 02011103
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
       ROD: EV_HREntryHella_SK37.rod
       VCID: 3C59CFA6B7E070DE6D-8068
    
       Lane Change Assistant 2:
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0041
       Serial number: 040815BH206036
       Coding: 003E13208000040000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
       VCID: 43ABB45ACA1E0F262C-8016
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811     HW: 5Q0 959 811
       Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005
       Serial number: 00000000000007924757
       Coding: 111000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 J    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  505 5063
       Coding: 9102
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 3957D6B2B8D245F676-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0041
       Serial number: 070815BH520135
       Coding: 003E13208C00040000800000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
       VCID: 42A5B15ED504062E27-8016
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812     HW: 5Q0 959 812
       Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005
       Serial number: 00000000000007971269
       Coding: 091000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels: 7P6-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
       Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 022202010B000400
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS_SE26.rod
       VCID: 40A1BB56DB08143E31-8014
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo links  H01 0002
       Coding: 2E0000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0002
       Coding: 2E0000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 035 876     HW: 3Q0 035 876
       Component: MU-S-NS-US    H25 0245
       Serial number: VWZAZ2R0489341
       Coding: 027300020000000051220002001808001F0207F401200105C6
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW26.rod
       VCID: 71C72E92A022CDB68E-8024
    
       Media Player Position 1:
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 919 605     HW: 5GM 919 605
       Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav  H52 1028
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9RFC009L8
    
       Engine Control Module 2:
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 R    HW: -----------
       Component: NAR 2016  --- 0321
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    1 Fault Found:
    6678 - Digital sound System control module
              U106A 00 [008] - No Communication
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 102
                        Mileage: 1502 km
                        Date: 2016.01.05
                        Time: 16:34:14
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels: 5QE-035-285.clb
       Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
       Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0568
       Coding: 02730002C2821A017F1E06020000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001006
       ROD: EV_OCULowMQB.rod
       VCID: 43ABB45ACA1E0F262C-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels: 5Q0-980-653.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 980 653 G    HW: 5Q0 980 653
       Component: MQB_MFK       H06 0060
       Serial number: 10000456059
       Coding: 0100010000020306000400010100000100
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
       ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3C59CFA6B7E070DE6D-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 159 D    HW: 4H0 907 159 A
       Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0001
       Serial number: 151016201451
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
       ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
       VCID: 2F43E8EA76969B46D8-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:18)--------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephantacos View Post
    Here is the autoscan as promised. I found two faults when doing it, at 09 Cent Electronics, and 5F Information Electronics, though. So Im worried I screwed something up. Anyone able to help?


    Also, question about this screen: What is the difference between 01 and 02? Currently set to 02.
    Not sure about the errors. I'm sorry to see that you have an R, and while our A5 modules are the same our 09 modules are different.

    I thought the correct setting was 01 Light/High Beam Assist in the A5 unit. 02 looks like it's for Dynamic Light Assist, which you don't have the hardware for, but it may be for a different mode of HBA as well as DLA. It isn't clear. But my guess is 01.

    I thought Light Assist (LA) and High Beam Assist (FLA) were different marketing terms for the same thing, but maybe not. Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) is defintely a separate technology requires shutters in your headlights.

    Thanks for the scan.

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    Oops. Typo. Mine is set to 01!

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    You can also change the LUX settings for the sensitivity on A5

    On an Octavia 3 the defaults are
    Night vehicle detection activation brightness - 3 lux
    Night vehicle detection deactivation brightness - 20 lux

    I have reduced mine to 2 lux and 15 lux - it comes on a little later and goes off a little earlier like that.

    You can also change the urban area detection setting, high beams will then come on in areas with street lights

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephantacos View Post
    Oops. Typo. Mine is set to 01!

    Cool. Let us know if the errors keep coming back after clearing them or whether everything is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephantacos View Post
    Here is the autoscan as promised. I found two faults when doing it, at 09 Cent Electronics, and 5F Information Electronics, though.
    Those faults look similar to the ones I got when trying to activate the same tweak on my car (Canadian MY16 NAR 7R with DAP). Except in my case, I wasn't able to get it to work as you and the other U.S. guy on Vortex have reported.

    Thanks for posting the scan. I will try to figure out what's going on with my Canadian car.

    What is the difference between 01 and 02? Currently set to 02.

    This is how I understand it: Light Assist (LA) and High Beam Assist are the same thing. LA is just the VW term for the technology (i.e. using a forward-facing camera to switch between dipped and high beams in the presence of other cars.)

    Dynamic Light Assist (DLA) adds a side-shutter to the light, allowing it to remain on high beams for oncoming traffic, but only masking off a side portion to avoid dazzling the driver. I doubt our lights have the hardware to do this.

    By this notion, we should only be setting byte 2 to 01. But who knows—I haven't been able to get it to work on my end yet!

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    Thanks for posting that scan. We seem to largely have the same car (no surprise), except for a few small coding differences. You have a 75 telematics (Car-Net) module that I don't, and I have a different 5Q (Discover Pro). The controller part numbers that I thought should matter (09, A5) are identical.

    You also have a newer CAN Gateway (19) than me (5Q0 907 530 AF versus AJ). I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

    I will do a bit more playing this weekend and report back.

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