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    Quote Originally Posted by enrico View Post
    Thanks for your reply Uwe, what I don't understand is what I obtain if I compile my list.
    A gateway that's free of fault codes.

    Quote Originally Posted by enrico View Post
    When the new code is built? Sorry for my question but I'm not such an expert...
    This will not change your coding. That's now a separate thing from the GVL. Use a current version of VCDS to set the 3 bytes of Long Coding appropriately for your car.

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    Well, I downloaded the latest version:

    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.2 Running on Windows Vista x86
    Data version: 20151124
    www.Ross-Tech.com

    Tuesday,08,December,2015,13:47:01:41339

    Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

    VIN: W......... Mileage: 59940km-37244miles

    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: Not registered 0001
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010

    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
    Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AM HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
    Component: J533 Gateway H55 1642
    Revision: H55 Serial number: 111213F1002338
    Coding: 350000
    Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
    VCID: 7BDAA5ACFA441BE63E-802E

    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 60
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 59904 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2000.00.00
    Time: 14:57:24

    I selected all the necessary components on the installation list and saved.
    But the can gateway is still showed as Incorrectly coded.

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    Nope 04 - steering angle is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    Nope 04 - steering angle is not.
    Yes you are true golfi_vend but I noticed now that if I compare the original scan with original gateway and the new scan with new gateway the order of devices is different.
    Is this due to the new VCDS software or the new Gateway for the chinese market?


    ----ORIGINAL GATEWAY---------


    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

    VIN: W____________ Mileage: 43410km/26973miles

    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

    -----NEW CAN GATEWAY ------

    Chassis Type: 1K (7N0) -------------> changed also chassis type!!
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 62 72 7D

    VIN: W______________ Mileage: 59940km-37244miles

    01-Engine -- Status: Not registered 0001
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: Not registered 0001
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Not registered 0011
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Not registered 0011
    15-Airbags -- Status: Not registered 0011
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Not registered 0011
    17-Instruments -- Status: Not registered 0001
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Not registered 0001
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Not registered 0001
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Not registered 0011
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Not registered 0011
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Not registered 0001
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Not registered 0001
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Not registered

    Sorry but I imagined changing the gateway was much simpler :-(

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    You're making it complicated for yourself. The only thing moved is steering angle. This is with all newer cans.
    On new scan you're missing 7D - Aux heating, do you have it removed or unmarked in install list.

    Also please fresh new autoscan so it's possible to assist you further. For instance the error with battery management.
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    Yep I did some mistakes in doing the installation list

    Now I have a new scan (I removed serial numbers). All devices are recognized. Some malfuncions, do they came from the new Can gateway?

    Code:
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.2 Running on Windows Vista x86
    Data version: 20151124
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Thursday,10,December,2015,08:14:46:41339
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D
    
    VIN: W____________   Mileage: 60040km-37307miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
       Part No SW: 03G 906 016 T    HW: 028 101 195 6
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG  7001  
       Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VW______
       Coding: 0000072
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 34484E90579A149EBF-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104  
       Coding: 0023282
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 3A5460A875FEE2EE65-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 044 AF
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0505  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6BFA95EC4A248B66AE-803E
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 N    HW: 1K0 937 049 N*
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803  
       Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 0000000_____
       Coding: 01890F2600041800000A00000F00000000085D035C
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3A5460A875FEE2EE65-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5M0 955 119 
       Component: Wischer VW359  012  0402  
       Coding: 00065493
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 C    HW: 1K0 909 605 C
       Component: 1M AIRBAG VW8   013 2100  
       Revision: 02013000    Serial number: 00_______  
       Coding: 0012621
       Shop #: WSC 01372 785 00200
       VCID: 2C7856F08FAA4C5EE7-8078
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6____________
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6____________
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6_______
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6______
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent - MIL ON
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 G    HW: 1K0 953 549 G
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 521 0050  
       Coding: 0002012
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 364C749841E6068E81-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: Lenkradmodul    007 0050
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 920 861 B
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0814  
       Coding: 0003103
       Shop #: WSC 30562 264 68225
       VCID: 2870AAE09B52607E03-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AM    HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
       Component: J533  Gateway H55 1642  
       Revision:   H55       Serial number: 11__________
       Coding: 350000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 7BDAA5ACFA441BE63E-802E
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Mileage: 59949 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 14:38:50
    
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 70
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 59904 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 14:57:24
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 1K0 920 861 B
       Component: IMMO            VDD 0814  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2870AAE09B52607E03-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0167  
       Coding: 0000052
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 30404280A38228BEDB-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 H
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3       1502  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 30404280A38228BEDB-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00750 - Warning Lamp 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Mileage: 9880 km
                        Temperature: 9.0°C
                        Voltage: 12.20 V
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
       Component:    KSG              0401  
       Coding: 00C802087F2D8404084F01E010CC
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 79D6BFA4307829F62C-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0167  
       Coding: 0000052
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 31464784A88821B6D4-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0220  
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 30404280A38228BEDB-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 704 C
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0220  
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 31464784A88821B6D4-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
       Component: PTC-Element         0404  
       Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2D7E5BF4B4B04556F0-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:13)--------------------------

    Thanks for your support
    Last edited by Uwe; 12-10-2015 at 10:57 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    And if I go in CAN Gateway, coding I see:

    35 Vehicle platform PQ35/PQ36

    Options:
    00 Control module not coded
    35 Vehicle Platform PQ35/PQ36
    46 PQ35/PQ36

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    Almost all the fault codes are flagged "Intermittent". That means the condition that set the fault code did not exist (or could not be detected) at the time the scan was performed. Clear them and see what comes back.

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    Although you have removed most information (did you steal the car )
    Coding for [CAN Gateway - 19] should be: 359002

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    After I created this thread I realized I should have done something specific for the CAN GW module alone. In any event, The Installation List followed by Long Coding is all you need to do.

    As mentioned by golfi_vend, the Battery Manager issue may just be the end result of the incorrect control module. We'd really want to look at the complete scan before repairs with the VIN (so we can check PR codes) to make sure.

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