TDI Convertion with no VAS errors does not want to start

No ......No .......No.....

Timing is field 2 in your screen shot and if 98 is too high/advanced.......especially at a fuel temp of 145 in field 9.......pump is out.

32760 is not a timing setting, and is an adaption ........the value should be 32768 as default.

When you shoot this figure off for 32760 what channel are you referencing in adaptation after login of 12233 ( 0x01-10-00? )

Adaptation channel 4 is like expert-mode, and certainly not to be used when you can't get your engine running right in the first place. Like Jack said, put those adaptations back to stock, and go back to the basics. You haven't posted fault codes in a long time, does that mean the engine is clear of DTCs currently?

Please report back and post values for the first 5 Adaption channels after login..........with 12233 & with scan data that Eric aforementioned in his request.

Ok completed the following steps
Rebuild the harness and replaced the accelerator connector- intermittent error now solved
Rebuild the wiring from alternator to both ECM and dashboard. - intermittent accel. signal now solved.

Timing graph still gives me "Engine not a Idle" error at bottom of screen. Followed the wiki steps and was testing "Channel 2". Changed little if you go down from 32768 to 32760 but after that no response.

Adaptation Channel 002:
Stored value 32758
Test value 32750
Idle speed
1302 /min Engine Speed
5.5 % Throttle Position
0 1 0 Operating Condition
72.0°C Coolant Temperature

Engine not running
Adaptation Channel 001:
Stored value 32768
Injected Quantity (IQ)
0 /min Engine Speed (G28)
0.0 mg/str IQ
0.680 V Mod. Piston
75.6°C Coolant Temp

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Adaptation Channel 002:
Stored value 32768
Idle speed
0 /min Engine Speed
5.5 % Throttle Position
0 1 0 Operating Condition
74.7°C Coolant Temperature

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Adaptation Channel 003:
Stored value 32768
Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
0 /min Engine Speed
850.0 mg/str MAF (Specified)
0.0 mg/str MAF (Actual)
4.8 % EGR Solenoid (N18)

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Adaptation Channel 004:
Stored value 32768
Start of Injection - Modification is Strongly Discouraged
0 /min Engine Speed
11.0 °BTDC Specified Start
0.0 °BTDC Actual Start
2.8 % Cold Start Valve

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Adaptation Channel 005:
Stored value 32768
Starting Conditions
0 /min Engine Speed
29.6 mg/str Start Injection Quantity
0.0 °BTDC Actual Start Quantity
73.8°C Coolant Temperature

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Engine running.

Adaptation Channel 001:
Stored value 32768
Injected Quantity (IQ)
1281 /min Engine Speed (G28)
3.6 mg/str IQ
1.620 V Mod. Piston
81.9°C Coolant Temp

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Adaptation Channel 002:
Stored value 32758
Idle speed
1281 /min Engine Speed
5.5 % Throttle Position
0 1 0 Operating Condition
82.8°C Coolant Temperature

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Adaptation Channel 003:
Stored value 32768
Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
1281 /min Engine Speed
275.0 mg/str MAF (Specified)
60.0 mg/str MAF (Actual)
19.9 % EGR Solenoid (N18)

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Adaptation Channel 004:
Stored value 32768
Start of Injection - Modification is Strongly Discouraged
1281 /min Engine Speed
1.3 °ATDC Specified Start
1.5 °BTDC Actual Start
2.8 % Cold Start Valve

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Adaptation Channel 005:
Stored value 32768
Starting Conditions
1281 /min Engine Speed
42.0 mg/str Start Injection Quantity
1.5 °BTDC Actual Start Quantity
83.7°C Coolant Temperature

Fault codes? Measuring blocks 1 and 2 with engine running?

A quick update. After fixing the wiring issues the pump now indicates between Green and Blue and not off screen.

Channel 2 under adaption

Eric fault codes
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 038 906 012 H
Component and/or Version: 1,9l R4 EDC G200SG 3332
Software Coding: 00002
Work Shop Code: WSC 04356
VCID: 15219CCE6FAE4696A8-4AE8
3 Faults Found:

18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1650 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
18044 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1636 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Airbag Controller - Intermittent
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller

Readiness: N/A
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ok, those shouldn't interfere too much with engine operations
How about measuring blocks 001 and 002?

Ok will do that in the morning.

Important to see base timing cold and hot in basic settings + logged & in comparison to blocks.

Basics 0x01-04-000 ( command to observe your baseline " Telling " )
Blocks 0x01-08-000 ( observation of moved adjusted values as defined in the controller from your basic settings made to adapt " Watching " )


Commencement function must be checked cold........ in field 2 block 000 measuring.
To initiate ( 0x01-03 then move to 0x01-08-000 )
The value in field 2 should be seen to sweep from 000 to 255 decimal.

Eric Blocks 001 and 002

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Address 01: Engine (038 906 012 H)

12:58:43 Group 001: Injection Quantity
0 /min Engine Speed (G28)
0.0 mg/str Injection Quantity
0.680 V Mod. Piston Disp. (G149)
11.7°C Coolant Temperature (G62)

12:58:43 Group 002: Idle speed
0 /min Engine Speed (G28)
5.5 % Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
0 1 0 Operating condition
11.7°C Coolant Temperature (G62)
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Engine running
Address 01: Engine (038 906 012 H)

13:01:30 Group 001: Injection Quantity
1386 /min Engine Speed (G28)
5.6 mg/str Injection Quantity
1.740 V Mod. Piston Disp. (G149)
31.5°C Coolant Temperature (G62)

13:01:30 Group 002: Idle speed
1386 /min Engine Speed (G28)
5.5 % Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
0 1 0 Operating condition
31.5°C Coolant Temperature (G62)
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Basics 0x01-04-000 ( command to observe your baseline " Telling " )


Blocks 0x01-08-000 ( observation of moved adjusted values as defined in the controller from your basic settings made to adapt " Watching " )

Note engine speed went down after touching pedal but not much

You better take a crash course in posting data logs and actually post the logs not half ass screen shots..........they say nothing for what needs to be observed.

Go read the forums how to do this.........

Based on that screen shot your timing SUX........

Well he posted what I asked for
So your G28 is confirmed working, and your injected quantity looks alright. Your G149 is within spec; The switch conditions do say idle switch closed. The only thing I see out of spec is the accelerator position, which would explain the increased rpm. Trace those wires and check the pedal. Let's also look at group 015 at idle, that should confirm that the driver request is non-zero.

Nope to advanced based on that FT......... That's blocks.

17:12:08 Group 015: Fuel consumption
0 /min Engine speed
0.0 mg/str Injected Quantity Actual
0.00 l/h Fuel Consumption
17.2 mg/str Injected Quantity Driver Request
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17:15:02 Group 015: Fuel consumption
1281 /min Engine speed
4.2 mg/str Injected Quantity Actual
0.70 l/h Fuel Consumption
2.4 mg/str Injected Quantity Driver Request

Eric would you be so kind as to direct me in the direction on how to post FULL ASS logs. I know you cannot do attachments, Should I do an upload?

To answer your second part of the question. Completely replaced the wiring from the custom harness for throttle pedal. Original vw harness wiring end to end.
Currently is stays at 5.5 %. I will unmount it to make sure nothing is pressing something else. I noted that the throttle does not go al the way to 100%. This is an addition to this vehicle as part of the conversion.

Ok adjusted the pedal as far as it would go. Brought the idel down to 3.9 / 4.3 %.
Address 01: Engine (038 906 012 H)

18:14:46 Group 002: Idle speed
1197 /min Engine Speed (G28)
4.3 % Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
1 1 0 Operating condition
63.0°C Coolant Temperature (G62)

Something that was not there before is the AC flag under operating condition. I do not hav an AC connected currently. Pedal also goes to 100% after it was removed.

pviljoen said:

2.4 mg/str Injected Quantity Driver Request

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That's your issue here confirmed. You need to get this down to 0 by fixing the pedal or its wiring.

Eric would you be so kind as to direct me in the direction on how to post FULL ASS logs. I know you cannot do attachments, Should I do an upload?

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If you're looking to take a snapshot, you should be able to just hit "Add to Log" on the basic settings screen. Then copy/paste as you've been doing is just fine. I just noticed there's no evidence in the log that it's basic settings as opposed to measuring blocks, I should fix that.
If you want to make a full log (I think that's what Jack's asking) in csv format, then you would hit the "log" button, and copy/paste the contents of the resulting csv file here, preferably in CODE tags like you would an autoscan.