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    Unhappy 2005 Audi A6 4.2, Auto Trans cannot be reached

    History: About a year ago, my A6 had a timing chain guide failure. I pulled the engine and trans last May, and over the last year, saved to purchase all the required parts, do a valve job, all timing components, etc.

    Finally, yesterday, all is back together. Hook up the battery, get in the car, turn the key....and....doesn't turn over. Display says to put in Park or Neutral. <sigh> Double check wiring at transmission, all connectors in the black boxes, etc. All is apparently well.

    Tried the wife's key (mine had been in the ignition for a year), thinking maybe immobilizer. No deal. Hook up VCDS, scan below.

    Any ideas on what to check?

    Transmission is ZF 6 speed, code HLL.

    Thanks,

    Darryl Snover

    Code:
    Sunday,04,May,2014,16:51:44:01367
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
    Data version: 20140212
    
    
    VIN: WAUDL74F15N036836   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 265760km-165135mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 4F 52 53
              55 56 61 62 72 77
    
    VIN: WAUDL74F15N036836   Mileage: 265760km/165135miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 560 A    HW: 4F0 907 559 
       Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0010  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0007772
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2045F75CF3C6B41EBB7-8075
    
    6 Faults Found:
    16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
                P0300 - 001 -  - Intermittent
    16685 - Cylinder 1 
                P0301 - 001 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
    18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1626 - 008 - Missing Message from TCU
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
                P0113 - 002 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
                P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
    18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
                P1653 - 008 - 
    Readiness: 0110 1101
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 E    HW: 4F0 614 517 A
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H03 0010  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0004456
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2649E14491E25A2EC1B-8073
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 68
                        Mileage: 265764 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.04
                        Time: 16:45:11
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0280
                        Hex Value: 0x40A2
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Hex Value: 0x0090
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
    
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H30 0130  
       Revision: 30040401    Serial number: 10600300050824
       Coding: 0000011
       Shop #: WSC 06121 444 13925
       VCID: E3CF385022506F06665-80B6
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 J
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H43 0070
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 A
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H35 0020
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00263 - Transmission 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 68
                        Mileage: 265764 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.04
                        Time: 16:45:16
    
    
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    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 732 C    HW: 4E0 035 729 
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 4140  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 360BO057519572
       Coding: 0030003
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 234FF850E2D0AF06A65-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 
       Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H07 0870
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000040872
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0111.08.040000000100010178ˇ
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010178ˇ
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 J
       Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH11 0110  
       Revision: 00000023    Serial number: 00000000046041
       Coding: 0008232
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: DBBF00B01A2057C62E5-808E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 A    HW: 4F0 907 279 A
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H14 0080  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
       Coding: 0113123
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2757EC4096E84326FAD-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0150  
       Coding: 00062736
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0040  
       Coding: 00141886
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
       Component: CD-Changer      H43 0470  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBD6001919
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1C3DC3ACDFAE90FE67F-8049
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-XM.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 G    HW: 4E0 035 593 C
       Component: SDAR XM         H04 0670  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7D8017094
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B5F10708A0067461E5-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 B    HW: 4F0 959 655 A
       Component: 46 AIRBAG AUDI8RH28 0310  
       Revision: 09H28000    Serial number: 00359D0708VX  
       Coding: 0013366
       Shop #: WSC 08353 444 84867
       VCID: 2649E14491E25A2EC1B-8073
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 339 
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 002 0040
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332CSME04091E4E7
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342CSME035B180E4
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME03680B01$
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME03420B7E9
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 6371VSME031E4C47S
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 6381VSME031D415BM
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 B
       Component: Lenks‰ulenmodul H07 0230  
       Revision: 00H07000    Serial number: 90025042010073
       Coding: 0012241
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: E6C92144D1621A2E81B-80B3
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: Lenkradmodul    H04 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 A    HW: 4F0 920 950 M
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H08 0460  
       Revision: 00200000    Serial number: 4I254XX74     
       Coding: 0065263
       Shop #: WSC 06449 444 11649
       VCID: 1E39C9A4C9B282EE89B-804B
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 4F0-910-468.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 B
       Component: Gateway         H09 0030  
       Revision: 09          Serial number: 08008047250011
       Coding: 6CFE73CC1B1904
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2757EC4096E84326FAD-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 68
                        Mileage: 265764 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.04
                        Time: 16:45:12
    
    
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    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 760     HW: 4F0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory FS   H04 0050  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000896400
       Coding: 0082946
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: E1C33258384C7D16749-80B4
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 793 B
       Component: TSG FA          H10 0020  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: óW
       Coding: 0035563
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2953EA7880FC7556EC9-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 E    HW: 4F0 907 289 E
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H14 0090  
       Revision: 00900014    Serial number: 01000539530000
       Coding: 0425021
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2C5D136C8F0E607E17F-8079
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 A
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H01 1201
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 68
                        Mileage: 265764 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.04
                        Time: 14:25:41
    
    
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    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F5 910 223 D    HW: 4F5 035 223 E
       Component: DSP-High C6     H14 0310  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000005685
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 244DFB4CE7DEA83EDFF-8071
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H07 0040  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000024107
       Coding: 0011114
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: DEB909A4093242EE49B-808B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 792 B
       Component: TSG BF          H10 0020  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: xp
       Coding: 0035563
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2953EA7880FC7556EC9-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 A    HW: 4F0 907 801 
       Component: EPB  CA3C0040   H03 0040  
       Revision: --H03---    
       Coding: 0006022
       Shop #: WSC 08353 444 54433
       VCID: 1E39C9A4C9B282EE89B-804B
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 39
                        Reset counter: 68
                        Mileage: 265760 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.03
                        Time: 15:17:03
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 10.87 V
                        Count: 243
    
    
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    Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 A    HW: 4F0 907 357 A
       Component: AFS 1           H03 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 244DFB4CE7DEA83EDFF-8071
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0010
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH05 0010
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H41 0620  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 352HT047549424
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 08353 444 84867
       VCID: 2E591964B912126E39B-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
       Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H11 0400  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000041891
       Shop #: WSC 08091 444 59425
       VCID: 234FF850E2D0AF06A65-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
       Component: von VA0  1407270095       
       Coding: 344630393135313035442056413031343037323730303935
       Shop #: WSC 00000 640 00290
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 795 
       Component: TSG HL          H09 0010  
       Coding: 0035370
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: E9D32A78C07C3556AC9-80BC
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 794 
       Component: TSG HR          H09 0010  
       Coding: 0035370
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: E9D32A78C07C3556AC9-80BC
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
       Component: Handyvorb2      H16 1130  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007551085
       Coding: 0000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2855EF7C9BF64C5EF37-807D
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 68
                        Mileage: 265764 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.04
                        Time: 16:45:17
    
    
    End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-04-2014 at 07:21 PM. Reason: Wrapped CODE tags around Auto-Scan

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    0x05 access/start is not seeing the trans.

    Check in VCDS advance measuring blocks for COM with other controllers including trans.

    Check CAN gateway wiring twisted pair via wire diagrams and 0x19 module in advanced measuring values for COM.
    Same for engine, ABS, and BCM.

    Do a broadcast of ease of DTC's and go into each module to erase the DTC memory of any left with a fault the broadcast misses.

    Recode....... Engine 0x01, Trans 0x02, ABS 0x03, Access/start 0x05, Central BCM 0x09, and Gateway0x19 to default then disconnect battery and reboot.

    Check for codes and report back if wont see trans module.
    Heads up!
    I have seen people bend pins to the main connector for the trans causing an issue from bad alignment so inspect carefully.

    Isolate ABS by unplugging to see if it is an issue on BUS an to prevent coding loss.
    Last edited by Jack@European_Parts; 05-04-2014 at 05:16 PM.

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    Thanks, Jack, for the speedy reply. I'll do the recoding, etc, as soon as the laptop battery is recharged (lol).

    Meanwhile, I've verified the pins on the main trans connector aren't bend, no dirt, etc. All nice and clean. I might go ahead and double-check the pins on the bulkhead connectors (aside from already checking to ensure they were seated), since those had to be removed when I pulled the engine/trans assembly out.

    Admittedly, although I've had VCDS for a couple of years, it was mostly so that I could do the brakes and such. I'll have to learn to use the advance blocks and such.

    Thanks,

    Darryl

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    Lots of other modules don't see the TCM. Have you verified power and ground at the TCM?

    -Uwe-

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    The TCM is located physically inside the transmission, from what my Bentley says. I'm trying to decipher the wiring diagram to see what pin(s) to check.....(goes to Bentley manual)...

    OK, looking at the wiring diagrams, the most -likely- culprit is not getting voltage to the TCM (as you have said, Uwe), so first thing in the morning, I'll pull the bulkhead connector covers and do some probing with my multimeter, to see if I have voltage at D50 and B273. I -think- D50 is on the drivers side, a large red wire located on a stud. Fuse is in that box as well. (It's -got- to be something stupid I missed. Maybe a good nights sleep will help.)



    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Lots of other modules don't see the TCM. Have you verified power and ground at the TCM?

    -Uwe-
    Last edited by ProtoFly; 05-04-2014 at 08:32 PM.

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    Please check your fuses......all of them.

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    Update: As I suspected, it was a stupid problem, and a good nights sleep gave some additional clarity. Based on the wiring diagrams, I checked pin 14 on the transmission plug with a multimeter, and there was 12 volts. Of course, I was checking against the frame. So, checked pin 14 with pin 13 (ground), and...nothing.

    Duh. Although I had connected the ground wires to the studs in the engine bay, I didn't tighten them, thinking I would do that after I was sure the wiring harness was all back in place properly.

    Tightened the grounds, and all is well.

    Very satisfying that after one year, and several thousand dollars in parts, it started right up, sounds great, no misfires. Cleared codes, none come up, except the stability light, which will go away once the car is actually driven.

    Now to fully load the suspension to tighten all of that up, bleed the power steering, finish charging the A/C, bleed the coolant, etc. Lot's of little things to button up completely. It's been a wonderful learning experience, and even though the timing chain setup really stinks to repair, I still admire the (over) engineering of the car. 164k miles, and looking forward to another 164k.

    For those that care: The non-FSI Audi 4.2 in the 2004>2008 S4 and 2005>2008 A6 has some definite design problems in the timing chain guides. Specifically, the guides crack, and at least the passenger side tensioner guide has a tendency to shed its plastic with age, ejecting it into the exhaust cam sprocket. In my case, it caused the chain to skip a tooth, bringing the exhaust valves into contact with the pistons. For me, it was a valve job, head resurfacing, new timing components, lots of torque-to-yield bolts, lots of little o-rings and gaskets, and a lot of labor. But I still like the car, it was worth it.

    Thanks very much Jack and Uwe. You both pointed me in the right direction.

    -Darryl
    Last edited by ProtoFly; 05-05-2014 at 12:19 PM.

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