'06 Golf TDI BEW w/codes 16725, 17524, 16683

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Need some help - 2006 Golf TDI w/BEW engine. bogged and stalled out on highway and no restart. 500-750 miles prior to this event I had changed oil and oil, engine air, fuel and cabin air filters and replaced the camshaft position sensor. I have now removed timing belt upper cover (looks ok does not appear to be worn damaged or slipped) removed the valve/cam cover to inspect the lifters & cam (they don't seem bad)., replaced the crank position sensor per advice of TDI mechanic that said he has seen them go bad and not code as such but cause other issues/codes. The car cranks over great as long as battery is charged (between learning to run scans with hexnet and working on car have run battery down twice). The car will actually start after sitting sometimes but stalls out quickly, it almost seems starved for fuel. I will post the full scan and hope that someone can give me some ideas I am ready to tow to a mechanic but much rather fix myself or at least know what is wrong before giving up.
Thanks, Mike

Code:
Monday,16,November,2015,05:35:53:31396
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 9BWGR61J064009495   License Plate: 
Mileage: 184740km-114792mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 9BWGR61J064009495   Mileage: 184740km-114792miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 038 906 016 AG    HW: 028 101 255 3
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG  7000  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2551171
   Coding: 0150034
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 59FA4AAE9163D6F67A-5184

3 Faults Found:
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
            P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 70.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001111
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 48.0

17524 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1 
            P1116 - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2079 /min
                    Torque: 82.0 Nm
                    Speed: 96.0 km/h
                    Load: 31.0 %
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 430.0 mg/str
                    (no units): 0.20
                    (no units): 0.0
                    Bin. Bits: 10000001

16683 - Boost Pressure Regulation 
            P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2100 /min
                    Torque: 138.0 Nm
                    Speed: 97.0 km/h
                    Load: 53.7 %
                    Voltage: 14.36 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Absolute Pres.: 1887.0 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 907.8 mbar

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09A-927-750.lbl
   Part No: 09A 927 750 BL
   Component: AG5 Getriebe 09A   0262   
   VCID: 76A0211250BD998E77-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 3424DB1A5641CB9E89-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003  
   Coding: 12344
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 271E3C56C797B0063C-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 907 F
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
   Coding: 15234
   Shop #: WSC 09115  
   VCID: 2C14C37ADE71935ED1-5160
   9BWGR61J064009495     VWZ7Z0E2551171

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 70AC170A32D9B7BEAD-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 8C Komfortgerát HLO 0004  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 373EEC1617372086AC-4B3C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
   Component:    Radio PM6        0020  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 24042B5AB6A15B1E19-5160

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:37)--------------------------

Code:
Friday,27,November,2015,15:52:05:31396
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 9BWGR61J064009495   License Plate: 
Mileage: 184740km-114792mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 9BWGR61J064009495   Mileage: 184740km-114792miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 038 906 016 AG    HW: 028 101 255 3
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG  7000  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2551171
   Coding: 0150034
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 59FA4AAE9163D6F67A-5184

3 Faults Found:
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
            P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 70.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001111
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 48.0

17524 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1 
            P1116 - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2079 /min
                    Torque: 82.0 Nm
                    Speed: 96.0 km/h
                    Load: 31.0 %
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 430.0 mg/str
                    (no units): 0.20
                    (no units): 0.0
                    Bin. Bits: 10000001

16683 - Boost Pressure Regulation 
            P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2100 /min
                    Torque: 138.0 Nm
                    Speed: 97.0 km/h
                    Load: 53.7 %
                    Voltage: 14.36 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Absolute Pres.: 1887.0 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 907.8 mbar

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09A-927-750.lbl
   Part No: 09A 927 750 BL
   Component: AG5 Getriebe 09A   0262   
   VCID: 76A0211250BD998E77-5184

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 3424DB1A5641CB9E89-5184

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003  
   Coding: 12344
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 271E3C56C797B0063C-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 907 F
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
   Coding: 15234
   Shop #: WSC 09115  
   VCID: 2C14C37ADE71935ED1-5160
   9BWGR61J064009495     VWZ7Z0E2551171

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 70AC170A32D9B7BEAD-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 8C Komfortgerát HLO 0004  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 373EEC1617372086AC-4B3C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  

1 Fault Found:
01359 - Internal Central Locking Switch; Passenger Side (E198) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
   Component:    Radio PM6        0020  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 24042B5AB6A15B1E19-5160

1 Fault Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:40)--------------------------


Code:
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 9BWGR61J064009495   Mileage: 184740km-114792miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 038 906 016 AG    HW: 028 101 255 3
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG  7000  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2551171
   Coding: 0150034
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 59FA4AAE9163D6F67A-5184

3 Faults Found:
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
            P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 70.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001111
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 48.0

17524 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1 
            P1116 - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2079 /min
                    Torque: 82.0 Nm
                    Speed: 96.0 km/h
                    Load: 31.0 %
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 430.0 mg/str
                    (no units): 0.20
                    (no units): 0.0
                    Bin. Bits: 10000001

16683 - Boost Pressure Regulation 
            P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2100 /min
                    Torque: 138.0 Nm
                    Speed: 97.0 km/h
                    Load: 53.7 %
                    Voltage: 14.36 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Absolute Pres.: 1887.0 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 907.8 mbar

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

Code:
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 9BWGR61J064009495   Mileage: 184740km-114792miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 038 906 016 AG    HW: 028 101 255 3
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG  7000  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2551171
   Coding: 0150034
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 59FA4AAE9163D6F67A-5184

3 Faults Found:
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
            P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 70.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001111
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 48.0

17524 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1 
            P1116 - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2079 /min
                    Torque: 82.0 Nm
                    Speed: 96.0 km/h
                    Load: 31.0 %
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 430.0 mg/str
                    (no units): 0.20
                    (no units): 0.0
                    Bin. Bits: 10000001

16683 - Boost Pressure Regulation 
            P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2100 /min
                    Torque: 138.0 Nm
                    Speed: 97.0 km/h
                    Load: 53.7 %
                    Voltage: 14.36 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Absolute Pres.: 1887.0 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 907.8 mbar

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09A-927-750.lbl
   Part No: 09A 927 750 BL
   Component: AG5 Getriebe 09A   0262   
   VCID: 76A0211250BD998E77-5184

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 3424DB1A5641CB9E89-5184

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003  
   Coding: 12344
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 271E3C56C797B0063C-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 907 F
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
   Coding: 15234
   Shop #: WSC 09115  
   VCID: 2C14C37ADE71935ED1-5160
   9BWGR61J064009495     VWZ7Z0E2551171

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 70AC170A32D9B7BEAD-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 8C Komfortgerát HLO 0004  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 373EEC1617372086AC-4B3C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 8C Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  

1 Fault Found:
01359 - Internal Central Locking Switch; Passenger Side (E198) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
   Component:    Radio PM6        0020  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 24042B5AB6A15B1E19-5160

1 Fault Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:27)--------------------------
 
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when it dies what dose engine speed say. while cranking and no start it should have 200 rpms. also when no start, dose the check engine light up when ignition is on.
 
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Ck engine light is on when ignition is on. While cranking tach moves rpms are probably at about 200. Not sure what you mean about when engine dies no rpms.
 
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when u turn on the ignition can u hear the lift pump. the lift pump is located in the tank. im not sure but you may be able to activate thru vcds
 
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16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<?

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 882 /min
Torque: 70.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ?
Load: 0.0 % <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<?
Voltage: 13.00 V
Bin. Bits: 00001111
Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
(no units): 48.0




http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16725/P0341/000833
16725/P0341/000833 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40): Implausible Signal Possible Symptoms


  • Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) active
Possible Causes


  • Wiring from/to Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) faulty
  • Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) faulty
  • Timing misaligned
Possible Solutions


  • Check Wiring from/to Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
  • Check Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
  • Check Timing! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< AH!


Sucking air at fuel filter ? Re-check your work with mighty VAC!
 
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OK, I should have finished off this post long ago. I ended up finally putting the Golf on ramps, pulling the belly pan and removing the intake and boost hoses off the turbo. I found the boost impeller turning but the compressor turbine seized, apparently the back pressure from the seized compressor turbine was popping the dipstick out and crankcase oil vent tube off. There was a small amount of oil in the boost outlet of the turbo going to the inter cooler, I had already removed and cleaned the inter cooler cleaned it and found a small amount of oil there (less than 1/8 cup). I removed the turbo, pulled the intake manifold and EGR and cleaned both. (soaked the intake in 1 gallon of simple green and pressure washed and local Jiffy Lube after it was closed, don't do at home unless you are rural, have a gravel and or just don't care what kind of mess you make, I would gladly spend the $10.00 in quarter not to drag out preassure washer and fire up and then have to clean up the carbon black from what ever I rigged up to hold the manifold and everywhere else that the goop went besides my HOA would have $h1t their pants with that crap running down my drive into street :rolleyes:.) .Got a new & hopefully better Borg Warner turbo from kerma TDI (recommended by tech) and reinstalled with braided ss oil line and EGR adapter pipe. Car now runs fine but does have CEL light on until I buy a Kerma tune to fix the missing electric actuator/sensor from old turbo. as of now we are 6,000 miles down the road and ready to get the tune soon, hopefully the car will run even better and mileage might even improve.
 
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was that the cause of the no start
 
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