Audi A3 89 rear passenger door only opens from inside

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This error only seems to have started now I actually need to get stuff in and out of the passenger rear door. It won't open/unlock using the key fob, internal central unlocking button or manually using the external handle. It will open if you use the internal door handle

Summary
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

When I scanned it using VCDS 15.7.1 I get the following errors related to the door Address 42,62
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
Coding: 0000688
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 43ABAD510208612600-8016

1 Fault Found:
01552 - Motor for Central Locking; Drivers Door (V56); Lock
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E HW: 8P4 959 801 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 41A7A7591814733612-8014

1 Fault Found:
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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The other error codes are a glow plug, radio speaker which I've had for a while and a rear fog light which is new but is it related

Any ideas what the problem might be with the rear door before I get someone to look into it?
 
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Please post a complete auto-scan....... not what you think is relevant.

Fix the obvious mechanical problem with the lock unit, or outer handle.

Get a repair manual at Erwin.
 
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whats the obvious mechanical problem and solution?

Here is the full scan without the vin number but its an 80 sportsback

Code:
Saturday,21,November,2015,12:24:22:40377
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN:    License Plate: 
Mileage: 238360km-148110mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72

VIN:    Mileage: 238360km-148110miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 RG    HW: 03G 906 021 AB
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC  000SG  1957  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: AUX7Z0H1FN50NE
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 00385 210 91297
   VCID: 75CF03891C5C8F967E-8020

1 Fault Found:
005659 - Glowplug for Cylinder 2 (Q11) 
               P161B - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 221006 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.06.02
                    Time: 07:57:49

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.91 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Temperature: 9.9°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021121
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 73CB3D91122891A650-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No: 8P0 820 047 
   Component: J255  Klima Man H07 0030  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6DFF2BE9740C475686-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-B.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 J    HW: 8P0 907 279 J
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2501  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008037223
   Coding: 00880F01B01410004F1600001600000000085A175C010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
   VCID: 44A9AE4D0706661E39-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350   H01 0130  
   Coding: 00062736
   Shop #: WSC 06314  

1 Fault Found:
01502 - Bulb for Rear Fog; Left (L46) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 21
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 221658 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.06.09
                    Time: 07:58:00

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.90 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 L    HW: 8P0 959 655 L
   Component:    Airbag 9.41  H01 4220  
   Revision: 91H01422    Serial number: 003CP002PSAJ  
   Coding: 0071612
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4BBB85712A58A966F8-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB40E69872A$

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB406AC9231R

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 63528RB40385DBF0Z

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 63628RB403843960E

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63747RB40369EEE22

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63847RB40369ED9E9

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH    HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
   Component: J0527           036 0070  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 78D10ABD0B4EF2FE65-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 K    HW: 8P0 920 981 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660  
   Revision: D0H22003    Serial number: 2241H003108478
   Coding: 0006423
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 40A1A25D131E7A3E1D-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0192  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2500K0820401C4
   Coding: E9807F061002022103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3449FE8D57A6D69E89-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 K    HW: 8P0 920 981 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660  
   Revision: D0H22003    Serial number: AUX7Z0H1FN50NE
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 40A1A25D131E7A3E1D-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K    HW: 8P0 959 801 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         H03 0050  
   Coding: 0000688
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 43ABAD510208612600-8016

1 Fault Found:
01552 - Motor for Central Locking; Drivers Door (V56); Lock 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.078 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 364DC48541DAC48EB7-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 J
   Component:    KSG          H11 0080  
   Coding: 1980202002186D0985054C9FC637
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 43ABAD510208612600-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 D    HW: 8P4 035 382 D
   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH06 0180  
   Revision: 00005       Serial number: 30674752816328
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 354FC3895CDCCF96BE-8060

1 Fault Found:
00421 - Rear Left DSP Midrange Speaker (R105) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 237227 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.11.10
                    Time: 17:26:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 13.0°C


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K    HW: 8P0 959 802 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         H03 0050  
   Coding: 0000688
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 44A9AE4D0706661E39-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 P    HW: 8P0 035 186 P
   Component: R Concert2+     H02 0270  
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3H8880884
   Coding: 0110211
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3FA3A1A16EE005C664-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E    HW: 8P4 959 801 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0040  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 41A7A7591814733612-8014

1 Fault Found:
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 E    HW: 8P4 959 802 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0040  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 42A5A8551D12682E0B-8016

No fault code found.

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Here is the full scan without the vin number but its an 80 sportsback
Really? I wasn't aware Audi made an A3 model in 1980, and if they did, it certainly wouldn't have been diagnostic capable.

Also the thread title states it's an 89. Also not plausible. Except if maybe if you're talking about "registration plates" which are irrelevant, because they don't correlate to model year very well at all, and it's utterly meaningless to anyone who lives on anything resembling a continent rather than an island.

So please post at least the first 10 digits of your VIN. ;)

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whats the obvious mechanical problem and solution?

Ahhhhhh you describe it..........

The point is that this is a mechanical issue being general repair.

You must take the door apart and inspect it via the repair manual, or take both rear doors apart and compare function and fitment operation.

If doing so......... take pictures as you go.

Remember...... VCDS is a tool, not an elixir ...........nor a substitute for the repair manual, or common sense.
 
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