Hi,
I'm happy to post my question here (or have it moved):
I've just bought a cable to help me workout what is going on with my car. Three dealers are using the 'it's normal' canned response but when I compare to my friends same make and model, it isn't behaving the same way.
The Car:
10/2012 VW Golf GTI Mark 6 - Manual and leather are the only options
40,000km - I believe it has been doing this for the last 10,000 or so.
Behavioural issue:
Driving along cruising with rpm around 2500 and light throttle application. Once I remove the throttle the car continues to maintain current speed for approximately two seconds before engine braking occurs. This is evident by:
(a) the engine note doesn't change after lifting off the throttle. It only changes after two seconds
(b) the recommend gear that is displayed in the top right hand corner of the central DIN is still telling me to upshift. Once engine braking is occuring the suggested gear then changes to indicate the current gear that you're in.
(c) you cannot feel the car slowing down for the first two seconds of being off the throttle
(d) whilst engine compression braking (actual) a slight touch of the throttle (a mere blip) equals the car to do the whole maintain current rpm for two second before compression braking again
(e) as a test I was driving along and pulled the car out of gear (no clutch) and lifted off the throttle and sure enough (as you can see in the you tube video) the rpm holds high for around two seconds before dropping back down to idle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri5GUdv1LtA
I've completed an initial scan - the results are below:
I've also spent a few minute monitoring lambda. What was noted is the sensor was reading 0.9ish while on light throttle. As soon as I lifted off the throttle the value changed to around 1.02 for the two seconds after lifting off throttle before changing to 1.999 once engine compression braking started occurring. I read that as the car is still fuelling even though I am off the throttle
My question is -
How do I use VAG-COM to capture the data I need to show what is going on isn't normal
Or can I clear out all the 'learning' the car has done and return it as if it is factory fresh
I'm happy to post my question here (or have it moved):
I've just bought a cable to help me workout what is going on with my car. Three dealers are using the 'it's normal' canned response but when I compare to my friends same make and model, it isn't behaving the same way.
The Car:
10/2012 VW Golf GTI Mark 6 - Manual and leather are the only options
40,000km - I believe it has been doing this for the last 10,000 or so.
Behavioural issue:
Driving along cruising with rpm around 2500 and light throttle application. Once I remove the throttle the car continues to maintain current speed for approximately two seconds before engine braking occurs. This is evident by:
(a) the engine note doesn't change after lifting off the throttle. It only changes after two seconds
(b) the recommend gear that is displayed in the top right hand corner of the central DIN is still telling me to upshift. Once engine braking is occuring the suggested gear then changes to indicate the current gear that you're in.
(c) you cannot feel the car slowing down for the first two seconds of being off the throttle
(d) whilst engine compression braking (actual) a slight touch of the throttle (a mere blip) equals the car to do the whole maintain current rpm for two second before compression braking again
(e) as a test I was driving along and pulled the car out of gear (no clutch) and lifted off the throttle and sure enough (as you can see in the you tube video) the rpm holds high for around two seconds before dropping back down to idle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri5GUdv1LtA
I've completed an initial scan - the results are below:
I've also spent a few minute monitoring lambda. What was noted is the sensor was reading 0.9ish while on light throttle. As soon as I lifted off the throttle the value changed to around 1.02 for the two seconds after lifting off throttle before changing to 1.999 once engine compression braking started occurring. I read that as the car is still fuelling even though I am off the throttle
My question is -
How do I use VAG-COM to capture the data I need to show what is going on isn't normal
Or can I clear out all the 'learning' the car has done and return it as if it is factory fresh
Code:
Tuesday,13,October,2015,09:08:57:06238
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZDWxxxxxx License Plate:
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Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZDWxxxxxx Mileage: 40360km-25078miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCZ) Labels: 06J-907-115-CCZ.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 115 N HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0010
Revision: AAH18--- Serial number:
Coding: 0403000C18070160
Shop #: WSC 10442 002 1048576
VCID: 354FD7135C592896BE-8060
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0152
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: 163B600D092380FC680D06E590190181350800
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 7DDF0F33E4E930D636-8028
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 GK HW: 5K0 907 044 GK
Component: Climatronic H19 1313
Revision: 00001004
Coding: 0010002002
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
VCID: 7AD5042FFDC707EE13-802E
1 Fault Found:
9472881 - Motor for Fresh Air / Recirculated Air Flap
B108B 71 [008] - Actuator stuck
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 29
Mileage: 40284 km
Date: 2015.10.11
Time: 07:48:46
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 R HW: 1K0 937 086 R
Component: BCM PQ35 M 111 0709
Revision: AC111709
Coding: 48180A3A8025F1C0408800C0340001644B510288536D8D60648000200040
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3FA3B53BAE65E2C664-806A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K2 955 119
Component: Wischer 03101 26 0512
Coding: 009795
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 291012 05 54 0403
Coding: 0230AD
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 B HW: 5C0 959 655 B
Component: AirbagVW10 013 0613
Serial number: 003G5RAPPA7%
Coding: 00003956
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_SE36.rod
VCID: 3147E303603104B6E2-8064
Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H02 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME76617571ZZZX
Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H02 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME12627571ZZZP
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side:
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H --- ----
Serial number: 3512QSME42112000ZZZ1
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side:
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H --- ----
Serial number: 3522QSME5A03215DZZZV
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BC HW: 5K0 953 549 E
Component: Lenks.Modul 008 0080
Revision: -------- Serial number: 90440LJL0006I
Coding: 1082140000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_SE36.rod
VCID: 72C52C0FA5B77FAE5B-8026
Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C HW: 5K0 959 542 C Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H31 0033
Serial number: 0313067
Coding: 820000
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 5K6 920 873 HW: 5K6 920 873
Component: KOMBI H05 0705
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 170B01
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
VCID: 73CB290BDAAD76A650-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AF HW: 7N0 907 530 AF
Component: J533 Gateway H52 1634
Revision: H52 Serial number: 131012F1000426
Coding: 350003
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 74C92A17D7A3719E49-8020
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H05 0705
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: 6AF5346F8D67B76EE3-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F HW: 5N0 035 342 F
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0546
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7663694328
Coding: 010100
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 2A75F46F45E7776E23-807E
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B HW: 5K0 959 701 B
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2120
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3147E303A83104B6E2-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74 3305
Revision: 00H22000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3753DD1B4655DA86AC-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 B HW: 5K0 959 702 B
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2120
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3245EC0FAD373FAE9B-8066
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J0503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 190 B HW: 5K0 035 190 B
Component: Radio RCD510 005 0236
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z3M9856686
Coding: 01000400040005
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 24691A5727C3A11E19-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D HW: 5K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
VCID: 354FD7135C592896BE-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D HW: 5K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
VCID: 364DD01F415F238EB7-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 J HW: 7P6 035 730 J
Component: TELEFON H15 3200
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007663707362
Coding: 0A01000000010101
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
VCID: 3957DB23B841CCF65A-806C
No fault code found.
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