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    What's going to be interesting for gas engines is that direct injection actually rejects quite a bit of PM...the exact thing that's been dogging diesel before the DPF.
    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2014...4014-audi.html
    http://articles.sae.org/13624/
    Of course VAG decided that they didn't need to use FPI for the EA288 in the US
    How long until gas cars are equipped with DPFs?

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    The additional PFI might also help with carbon buildup on the intake valves...

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Yup it does and we did a prototype of this two years ago by adding a 1.8T intake to the TSI, while running two fuel system control units.
    Ports line right up.

    Two additional holes are needed to be added to the head, while strapping the HPP rail to the lower section of intake to secure it.
    It runs really well and very clean.......especially if you use SAE oil..... and isolate the turbo charger to its own synthetic oil sump, pump and cooler.

    Virtually no issues for oil remediation like in the old engines, and a direct oiler at the HPP, further being a direct turned unit like a PD engine on the cam; instead of friction lobe.
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    Bahhhh this isn't the first time the Fatherland had their ding ding in the honey pot spot.......black china honey love you long time....more sugar? me so sweet for you.........

    http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles...-s-dot-history


    The Honey Launderers: Uncovering the Largest Food Fraud in U.S. History!

    Well now VW takes the sugar cakes.......


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    Information TPI from yesterday:



    Service campaign 23Q2 Transaction No.:

    Service campaign for diesel exhaust gas EA189 Release date: 29-Sep-2015

    Notes Repair instructions

    Technical background

    The vehicles are affected by the problem with diesel engines of the type EA 189. A technical
    solution is currently not available. We are working intensively on a solution. As soon as it
    is available, the repair instructions will be revised.

    Remedy

    A technical solution is currently not available. We are working intensively on a solution. As
    soon as it is available, the repair instructions will be revised.

    Customer notification

    tbd

    Warranty accounting instructions

    tbd

    Genuine parts

    tbd

    Parts supply

    Not applicable.

    Parts despatch control

    Not applicable.

    Questions and answers

    * What is the problem on the affected vehicles?

    The function and safety of the vehicle are not impaired.
    The nitrogen oxide emissions levels do not meet the regulatory requirements for registering
    the vehicle under the Euro 5 standard when the vehicle is driven under normal conditions.

    * What is the cause of the fault?

    Incorrect exhaust gas values are measured in test mode due to the engine control unit software.

    * What effect does this situation have?

    The operation of the vehicle is not impaired; the vehicle can be used as usual without restrictions.
    The nitrogen oxide emissions levels do not meet the regulatory requirements for registering
    the vehicle under the Euro 5 standard.

    * Is the safety of the vehicle impaired?

    No.

    * Which vehicles are affected by the fault?

    Only Volkswagen/ Commercial vehicles with the 3- or 4-cylinder diesel engine (EA 189 Euro 5)
    manufactured from approx. 2008 onwards are affected.
    If asked: Approximately 5,5 million vehicles are affected worldwide (some 1,5 million vehicles
    in Germany).

    * What does the designation EA 189 stand for?

    Engines of the type 189 are 3- or 4-cylinder diesel engines, which have a capacity of 1.2 ltr,
    1.6 ltr. or 2.0 ltr.

    * How can I tell if my vehicle is affected?

    The chassis number is the only certain way to identify the vehicles. A query form is available
    on the national Volkswagen home page for the market in question. Assistance is also available
    from customer support.

    * What exactly needs to be repaired on the car?

    The technical measures are currently being prepared, and this process is being given the utmost
    priority. For the majority of vehicles, a software update will likely be sufficient.

    * Will the work carried out on the vehicle have a negative effect on the performance or
    fuel consumption?

    The technical measures are currently being prepared, and this process is being given the utmost
    priority. Our goal is to avoid any changes in the vehicle's performance.

    * Is it safe to continue using the car until it can be inspected/repaired?

    Yes, you can continue to drive the car without restrictions.

    * I have a new car; is it okay to use it?

    Yes, you can drive the car as usual without restrictions if it has been registered.

    * Can I register a vehicle that has not been registered previously?

    At the moment yes, however talks with the national licensing authorities are currently underway.

    * Am I allowed to drive my car in low-emission zones (green disc) within cities in Germany?

    Yes, our current understanding is that there are no restrictions in this regard.

    * Do I have the right to compensation or to sell my car back?

    No, the vehicle will be free of defects once the repair has been carried out.

    * How did VW discover the error?

    The American environmental agencies EPA and CARB found discrepancies in the emissions levels
    of VW vehicles during road tests as opposed to when the vehicles were analysed on a test bed.

    * Have there been cases reported by customers?

    The media coverage has caused some uncertainty among customers.
    Have there been any cases of personal injury?
    No.

    * Is there any risk for the car occupants?

    No.

    * Will the driver be aware that a fault exists?

    No.

    * Will this affect the residual value of the car?

    The vehicle will be free of defects once the repair has been carried out. We therefore believe
    that this will not affect the car's value.

    * Will there be effects in terms of taxes?


    * As we currently understand it, no. The situation is currently being clarified with the
    licensing authorities.


    * Is the engine still in current production, and if so, where?

    Yes, the engine is still fitted in some models pursuant to the Euro 5 emissions standard mainly
    in countries outside Europe.

    * Will the customer be offered a mobility option while the vehicle is in the workshop?

    The usual provisions for service campaigns apply.

    * Can I have the repair carried out by an authorised Volkswagen dealer anywhere in the
    world?

    Yes.

    * Is it necessary to make an appointment at the workshop?

    Volkswagen will contact you as soon as the technical solution is available.

    * Will the repair be carried out free of charge?

    Yes, Volkswagen AG will bear the cost of the repair.

    * How long will the repair take?

    We currently estimate that the repair will take no more than 1-2 hours.

    * What is Euro 5?

    This refers to a European standard which specifies limits for exhaust gas emissions.

    * Are petrol engines affected?

    As we currently understand it, no.

    * I have a used Euro 5 car; is it okay to sell it?

    Yes, no restrictions apply.

    [X]

    Repair instructions Notes

    Technical background

    The vehicles are affected by the problem with diesel engines of the type EA 189. A technical
    solution is currently not available. We are working intensively on a solution. As soon as it
    is available, the repair instructions will be revised.

    Check

    Not applicable.

    Control

    Not applicable

    Genuine parts

    tbd

    Work
    Identification

    tbd

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    In the German Audi website there is a link to check your pending campaigns introducing your VIN. This info has appeared today:



    rucklet mentions 23Q2 campaign, website says 23Q4... more than one campaign or a typo in some place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    In the German Audi website there is a link to check your pending campaigns introducing your VIN. This info has appeared today:


    rucklet mentions 23Q2 campaign, website says 23Q4... more than one campaign or a typo in some place?
    The campaign text is for all brands, only the 23Qx is different.

    23Q2 VW/Transport
    23Q4 Audi
    23Q5 Skoda
    23Q6 Seat

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    I believe my car to be included, just awaiting confirmation.
    2014 Audi Q3, 2.0TDi 177bhp (Euro5)

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    It sure will be interesting to see how much of a performance, fuel consumption, or Adblue consumption hit these cars take after they are updated...

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    It sure will be interesting to see how much of a performance, fuel consumption, or Adblue consumption hit these cars take after they are updated...

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    Interesting thought. I wonder if VW will be required to subsidize the cost of things like Adblue and various emission system maintenance items.

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