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    MQB ACC retrofit

    Just wondering is VCDS able to help with adding used radar (5Q0907572A - ACC) to Seat Leon 5F (MQB platform)?

    Official workshop removed Component Protection from ACC and now VIN is assigned to my car but module needs to be activated (they don't know how without additional codes).
    Without activation ACC reports:

    (message from old ODIS-E / module 13 / Active Cruise Control):

    B203200 (1807) keine Freischalt-Identifikation aktiv
    DTC text: FAULT_SWAP_NO_FSID_ACTIVE

    As far i know workshops need activation codes + pin to enable above module via ODIS (SVM Activation), usually codes are together with new parts (bought via official channels - from VW). But if i get part from second hand, there is no codes.
    So is there a chance to enable ACC module through VCDS or in any case i need support from VW/Seat (as i mentioned - suitable codes to allow workshop to activate module with ODIS-S)?

    PS. Module 13 (ACC) basically works OK with CAN network, it is connected do CAN (1 pair) + Front Assist Camera (another pair of cables - according to electrical schematics from erwin).
    AutoScan:
    ECU: 13 - Adaptive Cruise Control
    15.07.2015 15:11:13

    LL_AdaptCruisContrUDS (EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_001)

    Master - Identification
    15.07.2015 15:11:13 Top^


    VW/Audi part number 5Q0907572A
    Software version 0150
    Hardware part number 5Q0907572 A
    Hardware version H04
    ASAM/ODX file identification EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372
    ASAM/ODX file version 001013
    [SO]_Param_VWTesteCodinInfor
    Coding 00 00 12 00 FE 03 09
    System abbreviation J428
    Vehicle equipment code 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 6C 76
    Parameter set part number 6c0114v____
    Parameter set version 0007
    System description ACC Bosch MQB
    Program memory status programmable Program available
    Programmability programmable
    Program consistency Program present
    Parameterizability Parameterizable
    Data consistency valid EEPROM data
    Error during last data record download no error
    Data record modification Data record not changed

    Regards,
    R.

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    First of all please post full auto-scan. That's the rules here

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    Pre-Sales... how does one post an Autoscan?

    To the original poster, you are asking very specific questions, questions which can be better answered once we know what the installed modules in the car support.

    But the real question is, can VCDS help? The answer is most likely but one cannot give assurances on such a modification without knowing what modules are in the car. And you cannot provide that information without a diagnostic tool that could tell us what is in the car.

    So, best bet here is to find someone near you with a VCDS system who could run a scan for you. Take that scan and post it in this thread so that we might better help you determine if VCDS will help you install the new components in your car.

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    Either way. VCDS is a good investment, if you already are planning such modifications, VCDS will help you with smaller ones.
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    Thx. for feedback

    It's hard to do VCDS' autoscan without VCDS
    There is an autoscan made by Vag Can Pro (VCP), little less informations but there are crucial like modules, errors, coding and so on. All 3 errors are _active_.
    Crucial module is 13 (ACC - 2 errors), error at 5F is related to not fully functioning radar (ACC).

    ACC is added by me and it is adopted/coded in gateway (19), dashboard (17), Information Control Unit 1(5F) and camera (a5)

    Code:
    VCP+K v4.0.1 11.07.2015 SmartCard Autoscan protocol2015-07-18 17:09:24.004
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Adressword  : 01
    VAG no.     :8V0906264B 
    Name        :Engine Control Module 1
    Description :J623 1.8l R4 TFSI 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ECM18TFS0218V0906264B 001002
    SW version  :0002
    Coding      :0B2500322424010B0000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 02
    VAG no.     :0CW300045E 
    Name        :Transmission Control Module
    Description :J743  GSG DQ200-MQB
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
    SW version  :3902
    Coding      :0014
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 03
    VAG no.     :5Q0907379A 
    Name        :Brakes 1
    Description :J104  ESC          
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 008020
    SW version  :0333
    Coding      :20EE6A9230242A71007E060101CA2904560C5400608094F4004D0020C0
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 08
    VAG no.     :5F0907044  
    Name        :Air Conditioning
    Description :J255  Climatronic  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
    SW version  :0503
    Coding      :00000014200100011105004000101000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 09
    VAG no.     :5Q0937084Q 
    Name        :Central Electrics
    Description :J519  BCM MQBAB H  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_BCMCONTI 010001
    SW version  :0106
    Coding      :08101942C2C102FB0BA44000B11C0728002A000000000000000000000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 13
    VAG no.     :5Q0907572A 
    Name        :Adaptive Cruise Control
    Description :J428  ACC Bosch MQB
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001013
    SW version  :0150
    Coding      :00001200FE0309
    
    Errors found
    
    000422 (U112300) Databus error value received
    
    00070F (B203200) no enable identification active
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 15
    VAG no.     :3Q0959655AC
    Name        :Airbag
    Description :J234  Airbag VW20  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
    SW version  :0188
    Coding      :98CCC000000000005C0000CC000800000065
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 16
    VAG no.     :5Q0953507AN
    Name        :Steering Column Electronics
    Description :J527  Lenks. Modul 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
    SW version  :0070
    Coding      :AC00
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 17
    VAG no.     :5F0920870F 
    Name        :Dash Board
    Description :J285  KOMBI        
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
    SW version  :0556
    Coding      :07AD0A086D84000801897A03010000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 19
    VAG no.     :5Q0907530F 
    Name        :Gateway
    Description :J533  GW MQB High  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_GatewLear 006010
    SW version  :1109
    Coding      :030100F42B085800CF0006E81C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 42
    VAG no.     :5Q4959593  
    Name        :Door Electronics Driver Side
    Description :J386  TSG FS       
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
    SW version  :0006
    Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 44
    VAG no.     :5Q0909144L 
    Name        :Steering Assistance
    Description :J500  EPS_MQB_ZFLS 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
    SW version  :1021
    Coding      :91
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 52
    VAG no.     :5Q4959592  
    Name        :Door Electronics Passenger Side
    Description :J387  TSG BFS      
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
    SW version  :0006
    Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 55
    VAG no.     :5Q0907357  
    Name        :Headlight Regulation
    Description :J431  LWR-ECU      
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
    SW version  :0070
    Coding      :049A000009000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 5F
    VAG no.     :5F0035846  
    Name        :Information Control Unit 1
    Description :J794  MU-S-N-ER    
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MUStd6C1PASE 002030
    SW version  :0171
    Coding      :04730001D70A000021110001000800002F01010401000100C6
    
    Errors found
    
    001C05 (U111100) Function limitation due to missing message
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 76
    VAG no.     :5Q0919294B 
    Name        :Parking Assistance
    Description :J791  PARKHILFE 8K 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002016
    SW version  :0026
    Coding      :0031251051
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : A5
    VAG no.     :5Q0980653E 
    Name        :Front Sensors Driver Assistance System
    Description :R242  MQB_MFK      
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
    SW version  :0050
    Coding      :0101010101040304020501000100000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : A9
    VAG no.     :5F0907159A 
    Name        :Actuator For Structure-Borne Sound
    Description :J869  SAS-GEN 2    
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
    SW version  :0001
    Coding      :
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    And the question:
    Is there a chance to enable/activate ACC module through VCDS or in any case i need support from VW/Seat (as i mentioned - suitable codes to allow workshop to activate module with ODIS-S)?
    Last edited by Raynold; 07-18-2015 at 10:42 AM.

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    Summary of all modules added:

    Code:
    Control unit						CU name		P/N.            S/W		H/W	DTC
    01 - Engine Control Module 1 				1.8l R4 TFSI 	8V0906264B 	2		H09	0
    02 - Transmission Control Module 			GSG DQ200-MQB	0CW300045E 	3902	        H43	0
    03 - Brakes 1 						ESC 		5Q0907379A 	333		H75	0
    08 - Air Conditioning 					Climatronic	5F0907044	503		H02	0
    09 - Central Electrics 					BCM MQBAB H     5Q0937084Q 	106		H14	0
    13 - Adaptive Cruise Control 				ACC Bosch MQB	5Q0907572A 	150		H04	2*
    15 - Airbag 						Airbag VW20 	3Q0959655AC	188		11	0
    16 - Steering Column Electronics 			Lenks. Modul 	5Q0953507AN	70		7	0
    17 - Dash Board 					KOMBI 		5F0920870F 	556		336	0
    19 - Gateway 						GW MQB High 	5Q0907530F 	1109	        125	0
    42 - Door Electronics Driver Side 			TSG FS 		5Q4959593    	6		7	0
    44 - Steering Assistance 				EPS_MQB_ZFLS 	5Q0909144L 	1021	        119	0
    52 - Door Electronics Passenger Side 			TSG BFS 	5Q4959592        6		7	0
    55 - Headlight Regulation 				LWR-ECU 	5Q0907357        70		5	0
    5F - Information Control Unit 1 			MU-S-N-ER 	5F0035846        171		39	1*
    76 - Parking Assistance					PARKHILFE 8K 	5Q0919294B 	26		2	0
    A5 - Front Sensors Driver Assistance System 		MQB_MFK 	5Q0980653E 	50		H05	0
    A9 - Actuator For Structure-Borne Sound 		SAS-GEN 2 	5F0907159A 	1		H06	0
    
    
    VCP+K v4.0.1 11.07.2015 SmartCard Autoscan protocol2015-07-18 17:09:24.004
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Adressword  : 01
    VAG no.     :8V0906264B 
    Name        :Engine Control Module 1
    Description :J623 1.8l R4 TFSI 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ECM18TFS0218V0906264B 001002
    SW version  :0002
    Coding      :0B2500322424010B0000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 02
    VAG no.     :0CW300045E 
    Name        :Transmission Control Module
    Description :J743  GSG DQ200-MQB
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
    SW version  :3902
    Coding      :0014
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 03
    VAG no.     :5Q0907379A 
    Name        :Brakes 1
    Description :J104  ESC          
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 008020
    SW version  :0333
    Coding      :20EE6A9230242A71007E060101CA2904560C5400608094F4004D0020C0
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 08
    VAG no.     :5F0907044  
    Name        :Air Conditioning
    Description :J255  Climatronic  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
    SW version  :0503
    Coding      :00000014200100011105004000101000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 09
    VAG no.     :5Q0937084Q 
    Name        :Central Electrics
    Description :J519  BCM MQBAB H  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_BCMCONTI 010001
    SW version  :0106
    Coding      :08101942C2C102FB0BA44000B11C0728002A000000000000000000000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 13
    VAG no.     :5Q0907572A 
    Name        :Adaptive Cruise Control
    Description :J428  ACC Bosch MQB
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001013
    SW version  :0150
    Coding      :00001200FE0309
    
    Errors found
    
    000422 (U112300) Databus error value received
    
    00070F (B203200) no enable identification active
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 15
    VAG no.     :3Q0959655AC
    Name        :Airbag
    Description :J234  Airbag VW20  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
    SW version  :0188
    Coding      :98CCC000000000005C0000CC000800000065
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 16
    VAG no.     :5Q0953507AN
    Name        :Steering Column Electronics
    Description :J527  Lenks. Modul 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
    SW version  :0070
    Coding      :AC00
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 17
    VAG no.     :5F0920870F 
    Name        :Dash Board
    Description :J285  KOMBI        
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
    SW version  :0556
    Coding      :07AD0A086D84000801897A03010000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 19
    VAG no.     :5Q0907530F 
    Name        :Gateway
    Description :J533  GW MQB High  
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_GatewLear 006010
    SW version  :1109
    Coding      :030100F42B085800CF0006E81C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 42
    VAG no.     :5Q4959593  
    Name        :Door Electronics Driver Side
    Description :J386  TSG FS       
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
    SW version  :0006
    Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 44
    VAG no.     :5Q0909144L 
    Name        :Steering Assistance
    Description :J500  EPS_MQB_ZFLS 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
    SW version  :1021
    Coding      :91
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 52
    VAG no.     :5Q4959592  
    Name        :Door Electronics Passenger Side
    Description :J387  TSG BFS      
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
    SW version  :0006
    Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 55
    VAG no.     :5Q0907357  
    Name        :Headlight Regulation
    Description :J431  LWR-ECU      
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
    SW version  :0070
    Coding      :049A000009000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 5F
    VAG no.     :5F0035846  
    Name        :Information Control Unit 1
    Description :J794  MU-S-N-ER    
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MUStd6C1PASE 002030
    SW version  :0171
    Coding      :04730001D70A000021110001000800002F01010401000100C6
    
    Errors found
    
    001C05 (U111100) Function limitation due to missing message
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : 76
    VAG no.     :5Q0919294B 
    Name        :Parking Assistance
    Description :J791  PARKHILFE 8K 
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002016
    SW version  :0026
    Coding      :0031251051
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : A5
    VAG no.     :5Q0980653E 
    Name        :Front Sensors Driver Assistance System
    Description :R242  MQB_MFK      
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
    SW version  :0050
    Coding      :0101010101040304020501000100000000
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************
    
    Adressword  : A9
    VAG no.     :5F0907159A 
    Name        :Actuator For Structure-Borne Sound
    Description :J869  SAS-GEN 2    
    
    Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
    SW version  :0001
    Coding      :
    
    No erros found
    
    ECU scanning finished
    ****************************************************

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Pre-Sales... how does one post an Autoscan?

    To the original poster, you are asking very specific questions, questions which can be better answered once we know what the installed modules in the car support.

    But the real question is, can VCDS help? The answer is most likely but one cannot give assurances on such a modification without knowing what modules are in the car. And you cannot provide that information without a diagnostic tool that could tell us what is in the car.

    So, best bet here is to find someone near you with a VCDS system who could run a scan for you. Take that scan and post it in this thread so that we might better help you determine if VCDS will help you install the new components in your car.
    What do you think? Can VCDS solve this issue or i need online support from VW?

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    I think you're going to need on-line support from VW.

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    i suspected VW is only solution, it means i need to get activation codes for specific module(s) and it could be hard or completely impossible (according to VW policy, it is better to sell new car with richer equipment than allowing users to retrofit older cars).
    Thx. anyway.

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