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    Coding injectors CAYC engine 1.6TDi

    Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knows the security access to adapt the injector codings for idle controlon these engines?? I already tried the suggested 27971 from the pop up box but all I get is a "refused to send seed" error and I cant reprogramme the new injectors.

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    Thursday,02,July,2015,10:33:09:06416
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.1.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20150130
    
    
    VIN: TMBCT21Z1B2029348   License Plate: JIG9674
    Mileage: 114200km-70960mi   Repair Order: SBTAXIS
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1Z (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
    
    VIN: TMBCT21Z1B2029348   Mileage: 114200km-70960miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 AG    HW: 03L 906 023 AG
       Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H23 9971  
       Revision: --H23---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 00114014030500080000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00999
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AG 003010
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023A_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6BDED784829CE079AB2-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 1000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AK    HW: 1K0 907 379 AK
       Component: MK70 M MASR         0105  
       Revision: 00H35001    
       Coding: 0017665
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 7BFEE7C43AFC70F93B2-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 3T0 820 047 M    HW: 3T0 820 047 M
       Component: Climatic      150 0303  
       Revision: 00006001    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
       ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_SK35.rod
       VCID: 39723DCCB84082E969E-806C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9481200 - Coolant Pressure 
              B10AB F0 [009] - Too Low
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 8
                        Mileage: 114024 km
                        Date: 2015.04.04
                        Time: 11:42:51
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 084 D    HW: 1K0 937 084 D
       Component: BCM PQ35  B   103 0615  
       Revision: 00103 AD    
       Coding: 48180AB8A05BB1C04010008011000024420000AE524D81605C4440000040
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 2F6603947E045C59C7A-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 05081  26  0601 
       Coding: 00D7B7
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171 
       Component: Innenraumuebe  008 5101 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02391 - Terminal 30 Reference 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 3
                        Mileage: 113885 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.03.30
                        Time: 15:04:05
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.25 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            Term 50 Off
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 48
                        Mileage: 114019 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.04.04
                        Time: 10:55:06
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 14.20 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            Term 50 Off
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
       Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
       Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PC1Z8WTO  
       Coding: 0020788
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 3D7A29DC6468BEC9456-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5575182DH
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME557534236
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BJ    HW: 5K0 953 569 C
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   009 0136  
       Revision: FF010038    Serial number: 20100820300363
       Coding: 5080040000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
       VCID: 75EAF1FCD4D826894D6-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 1Z0 920 903 M    HW: 1Z0 920 903 M
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0405  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 410B00
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00999
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
       VCID: 3F8653D4A664ACD957A-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H27 5603  
       Revision:   H27       Serial number: 020810F2002005
       Coding: E9807F0600020200001303
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 6DDAD99C7488EE49B56-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0405  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
       VCID: 6AD0D2808D66F971D04-803F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
       Coding: 0000756
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 489448083BAAEB61E60-801D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3001  
       Revision: 00H17000    
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 316205ECA8304AA9D1E-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
       Coding: 0000756
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 47964B3436B4E419EFA-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 F    HW: 1Z0 035 156 F
       Component: BOLERO        010 0054  
       Revision: 0A001001    Serial number: SKZ1Z3K8456899
       Coding: 000004000001
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
       VCID: 356A31FC9C5866898D6-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012551
       VCID: 32600AE0AD3671B1A84-8067
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0008336
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012551
       VCID: 336E0FE4522C78B9A32-8066
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:04)--------------------------

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    What happens when you try to code it with new injector number ?

    If secure access is needed, try: 12233
    I have had one, where the 27971 was not accepted the first try.

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    It won't accept it, it comes up with security access required. I tried it a few times but didn't work. I'll try 12233 but I'm not sure it's applicable to the 1.6 tdi.

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    Hello, I'm not sure, but please look for Injector Calibration (Cylinder 1) in Adaption channels without access,
    After Replacing an Injector the new Part has to be calibrated to avoid drivability issues.
    Once the new Injector is installed save "0" as new Value and switch the Ignition OFF for about 30 Seconds.
    -Wolfgang

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    Ok I will give that a go. I tried again with the codes but to no avail. I even had another one in and tried the 27971 and it worked no problem. Maybe it's a difference in software??

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    Nope, still no success with this one. Has anyone else experienced the same difficulty with security access?? Works perfect on other models of the 1.6tdi?!

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    Is there any chance that the ECU has been tuned/mapped?

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    No the car is completely stock. I found this same issue on a vehicle before but I then sent it to a friends garage who had ODIS to code them for me. I'm just intrigued as to why it doesn't work with this particular ecu?

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    You don't happen to have a scan of the other vehicle you had this same issue with, do you?

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Hello,
    some ideas. If the mounted injectors are build by DELPHI, there will be a very different procedure to get the codes into ECU.
    For excample:
    FPFNCB82N6ZEL8D5YCZ - correction value on injector
    test step : evaluate exchange direction
    test step : disassemble string
    test step : convert the values
    test step : catenate

    Adjustment Injector
    0F170F160C0B080216061F0E14080D051E0C1F02

    That was performed by ODIS, don't know anything how to do it with VCDS
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