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    Battery Coding

    Putting this up for review. Provided no one finds any major errors due to my drunk editing, it will be released into the wild.

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    I think the narrator should say something, like:

    "First, let's do one one with a separate BEM module at address 61" at ~1:36

    "Now let's do a newer one with the BEM located in a non-UDS gateway" at ~3:00

    "And last, we'll do one with the BEM in a UDS gateway" at ~4:45

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    Nice video Jef. Does this apply to all battery replacements on VAG vehicles or just later models?
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    Minor voice overs added. No new Easter Eggs added.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keithuk View Post
    Nice video Jef. Does this apply to all battery replacements on VAG vehicles or just later models?
    Mainly for Audi vehicles, those with a Battery Energy Management. In the US market, starting with the 2004 A8 (4E). I think the only the current generation Touareg is the only VW that uses it.
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    Phaetons probably have it as well.

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    I think the Phaetons have a "dumb" system, no address 61.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Phaetons probably have it as well.
    We have 71-Battery Charger but it doesn't keep track of battery serial numbers. It basically isolates and DC-DC charges the starter battery, and controls various emergency start scenarios. You can't even tell it the start battery type, which can be FLA or AGM depending on your engine type.

    I'll stop there, because I have an extensive rant about how very stupid the Phaeton battery manager control module is, and I doubt you care.

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    How about current Phaetons? You know, the ones VW still sells in Europe? I they've been revised a bit..

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    It's a great start for a baseline Jef.

    To be forced to the OEM battery is a problem.
    I am really surprised someone hasn't hacked it to death to disable this marry requirement or a class action.

    It's dumb to not just be able to plug in generic numbers for Ah, group, CCA and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    How about current Phaetons? You know, the ones VW still sells in Europe? I they've been revised a bit..
    A good question... I had to check. Through at least 2014, not only does it use the same type of system, it's the exact same part number. Literally untouched. I don't have information on 2015.

    There was supposed to be a big new MLB-based platform refresh in the works. But, the Phaeton has always lost money for Volkswagen, and it was always Dr. Piech's personal baby. Now that he's gone, it may never see the light of day. They've just pulled the existing Phaeton out of the UK market entirely.

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