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    Question HVAC IN HELL please save me from heat :-) 2010 B8

    Hey fellas-

    Im new to the forum but not the car world, I am extremely excited to have my VAGCOM finally but NEED HELP PLEASE!

    Ac is not working AT ALL.

    replaced the g395 pressure sensor (but wondering if they sent me a generic sensor and not a true oem, hence still getting the Implausible signal)

    When i ran the individual component checks, THE AC DID BLOW COLD WHEN THE N280 VALVE SAW CURRENT.

    Please please can anyone help?

    I know there is a TSB on this issue, which is what originally led me to change the pressure sensor.

    Also I did have the system pumped(not flushed just dumped) and refilled with the computerized machine to Audi specs.

    Code:
    VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20150311
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Saturday,30,May,2015,19:16:56:07369
    
    Chassis Type: FL (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62 6C
              72
    
    VIN: WAUEFAFL0AN047123   Mileage: 87960km-54655miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (DL0MA-CAEB)       Labels: 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AL    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H16 0001  
       Revision: E1H16---    
       Coding: 0104010A02070160
       Shop #: WSC 05136 444 12160
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL 001001
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL.rod
       VCID: 79F9A4A8F8C59BE9291-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 1110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0AW-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K1 927 155 J    HW: 0AW 927 156 H
       Component: 0AW 20TAVSUSA H04 0003  
       Revision: --H04---    Serial number: 0000000118
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMVL381 A02017
       ROD: EV_TCMVL381_AU48.rod
       VCID: 3B757EA0B27969F97BD-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BT    HW: 8K0 907 379 BT
       Component: ESP8 front    H04 0010  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 080D18
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 0C17ED7CAF579E41027-8059
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87961 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 17:30:26
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Hex Value: 0x0782
                        Hex Value: 0x0035
                        Hex Value: 0x4097
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
    
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0327  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 090100
       Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
       VCID: 78FFA1ACCBCF82E156F-802D
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 G    HW: 8T0 959 754 G
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H61 0072 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0171  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01150120101817
       Coding: 64102000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 000FC94C931FCA216EF-8055
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00256 - A/C Pressure/Temperature Sensor (G395) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87962 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 19:09:54
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 31.0°C
    
    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87962 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 19:09:54
    
    00797 - Sunlight Photo Sensor (G107) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87962 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 19:09:55
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 33.0°C
                        Temperature: 31.0°C
                        Output: 300 W
                        Output: 300 W
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H25 0380  
       Revision: 10025001    Serial number: 00000000559680
       Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C520800010161000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3C777DBCBF776EC1727-8069
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 140110  H06 0070 
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL    HW: 8K0 941 531 AL
       Component: E1 - LDS  H08 0090 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00256 - A/C Pressure/Temperature Sensor (G395) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 17:11:00
    
    02258 - Door Opener Transmitter 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 17:11:00
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 Q    HW: 8K0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H06 0070  
       Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 51291001503758
       Coding: 200103
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 479D1250F6B13D19EF5-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 H    HW: 8K0 959 655 H
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H39 0560  
       Serial number: 003EGD05F4F%  
       Coding: 303836354230303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 02135 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
       VCID: 428B0344D593183138B-8017
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 B    HW: 8K0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0030 
       Serial number: 5810000R0900005WDS
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME4E420E15H
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME4F32416CL
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME624C5322D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME734B3A28Q
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME5B4A0F067
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME1B4A040E1
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H16 0014  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90304JAI000DU 
       Coding: 000036
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3D7170B8A46D67C9459-8068
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 980 M    HW: 8K0 920 980 M
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H20 0255  
       Revision: 00100000    Serial number: CIX33131A     
       Coding: 8B1609000300D705020000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3C777DBCBF776EC1727-8069
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 T    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0105  
       Revision: EB800053    Serial number: 5300E101128020
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 52AB33040DF388B188B-8007
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0170 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87962 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 19:13:14
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits:    10111
                        Voltage: 11.80 V
                        Count: 6
                        Bin. Bits:    10011
                        Time: 25.40 s
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000009905426 
       Coding: 011C03204000410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 45811858CCBD2F091D9-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0327  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0125749502    
       Coding: 0106023A007A440400B0013200000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 78FFA1ACCBCF82E156F-802D
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
       Component: GTO BF  H06 0050 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS045  H07 0041 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000009932986 
       Coding: 011C03204000410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 4487055CC78716010A7-8011
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000000540912
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3467559C9727A681BA7-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A    HW: 4F0 035 082 
       Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 335AU0A7547550
       Coding: 020000020100000001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 1D31903804AD07C9659-8048
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02246 - Loudspeaker; Center 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 92
                        Mileage: 87960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.30
                        Time: 17:07:44
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.80 V
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 664 B    HW: 8T1 035 664 B
       Component: H-BN-NA       H47 0042  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 490AW0A7543554
       Coding: 010200000006A1EF01000B0E000000030000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 377D629086514D999F5-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 F
       Component: NAR 2009/2010  5304 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604 
       Component: DU7 High  H43 0306 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 F    HW: 8T0 919 609 F
       Component: E0380 Bedient  H08 0100 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 906 961 A
       Component: CD-Database  1293 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000102685070 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 428B0344DD93183138B-8017
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
       Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
       Revision: --H03---    Serial number: 525PA8-J9Z90PW
       Coding: 1000006
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       VCID: 387F61AC4B4F42E196F-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000102685067 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 428B0344DD93183138B-8017
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:11)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 06-03-2015 at 05:42 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Please post a complete Auto-Scan so people can see these issues in context.

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    when i ran the individual component output tests, this is the one that would turn the Compressor on briefly and blow cold air for the 1st time since i have owned the car !

    as you can see, the current to it was going from 0 up to .7 and back to 0 constantly back and forward(not sure if that is how the output test works by sending signal then stopping then sending)

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    Sounds to me like a weak battery is in history here....
    You have a COM error between the monitoring of the J519 watching the load circuit....... with load management override.

    Correct the voltages and communications and it should be okay.

    00256 - A/C Pressure/Temperature Sensor (G395)
    004 - No Signal/Communication

    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    013 - Check DTC Memory
    Check with meter or wiggle tests of the twisted pair between........ to gateway......verify via WD and with AID of VCDS advanced measuring blocks while logging!
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    thanks for the reply!

    I have NO idea what a lot of that means unfortunately, I just got my VAGCOM today, barely even know how to use it, certainly dont know yet how to do measuring blocks.

    What twisted pair are you speaking of?

    I tested the three wires from the Pressure sensor G395 to J519 and they read voltage, but multiple Audi techs told me a LIN based system is pointless to use a Multimeter on.

    So I am still stumped at this point as what I personally can do or try

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    Others that threw these same codes, just changed their pressure sensors and fixed the issue. The TSB I followed said that is the number 1 reason for these codes and the no Compressor kicking on/no cold air.

    and/or the TSB mentions the LIN cable from G395 press sensor being cut and causing that, but I put a temporary jump wire from the Sensor to 1inch away from the j519 unit, and no luck (although i did not have vagcom then so maybe I had to erase the faults once the Jump wire was in?)

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    You must get the repair manual ......

    Twisted pair means CAN/HIGH/LOW Network cable.

    You need to review WD in repair manual and observe the TSB, as well as general testing procedures.

    or seek a professionals aid and open wallet.

    The tool is not a substitute for not having the repair manual.........and jumping stuff out isn't advised because you are gonna have a bad time.
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    ty again for the fast reply man.


    Ross_tech said if no one could help me figure it out through these forums By Monday that I can call in and they will go over it with me to try and diagnose it. I will wait till then before I spend any more money on anything.

    I Bought a Genuine Audi manual, and all it shows is how to remove or replace things, does not have any wiring diagrams or testing procedures whatsoever which certainly pissed me off. That is how I learned about the TSB and the sensor and LIN wire issue.

    If there was a way that I could Use the VAGCOM to see if the Sensor was sending signal to the J519 unit, then I could cross off the sensor itself AND the LIN wire being an issue.

    I still have a strong feeling that it is the Sensor, I got it off Ebay and they said it was "Original Equipment" but when I showed it to the Audi tech he said it is just a generic company sensor...

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    Oh boy FOD here we go..............
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    Hey in this thread.

    Jack why are you suggesting checking can wires? Fault code just suggest to go to 0x09 and check 02.
    (For those who didn't understand: http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthre...ut-0x01-08-000 )
    Code:
    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    013 - Check DTC Memory
    Only weird issue is why isnt 55 - headlights range accessible.

    Output test window.
    One window shows specified amperage and second shows the actual amperage.
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