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    Autoscan needed for Beetle

    I need to see a scan of a 2012-2014 Beetle with 6spd manual and factory backup camera. I figure it will also have navigation. A TDI would be great but not necessary. I've added aftermarket Nav and RVC with Idatalink Maestro RR to my 2013 Beetle TDI with manual transmission, and am experiencing some strange behavior. I've seen DSG trans beetles that work but no manual. I would like to compare my coding to another manual transmission beetle with rear view camera installed.

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    I certainly don't want to discourage anyone from posting scans, but I'm skeptical that codings appropriate for factory Nav and RVC will shed much of any light one what's necessary to to make your aftermarket stuff work.

    I also notice that idatalink.com doesn't seem to consider your Beetle supported.

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    Not sure what you mean. Idatalink shows that the Maestro RR fully supports all trim levels and years of The Beetle. The module actually works for the most part. It's just not exchanging navigation data with the MFD. The Audio data, and steering wheel controls work perfectly. The module also doesn't recognize the reverse signal on the can bus. The CECM is wired differently on the manual trans vs DSG, but I would think the bus signals would have been the same. I was just curious if there was some coding difference that enables the data exchange. I know on some models, this won't work until you disconnect the compass module, but I can't find any evidence I have one of those in the Beetle.

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    Sorry, I must have missed something on my first pass through their site, so I retract the statement above that idatalink.com doesn't to consider your Beetle supported

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    Beetle aftermarket Nav display in MFD with Idatalink Maestro RR

    After more searching, I think the main issue I'm dealing with isn't related to the CECM. If I code nav into the installation list, I get the nav display on the MFD, but the instrument cluster is frozen in whatever state it was in when the nav connected to it. The last time I tried it, the instruments were stuck with most of the warning lights on, including the parking brake. The car starts, and runs fine, the tach, speedo, and fuel gauge are working, but the lights stay on. The MFD is also stuck on whatever screen was up when the nav connected, and does not update. The steering wheel controls for the mfd do nothing also. I tested the controls with vcds, and the switches are seen by the controller, but the mfd doesn't respond. Once it's in this state, the only way out of it is to remove nav from the installation list, and disconnect the battery for a few seconds. Turning the car off does nothing. Even after many minutes of power off, and doors closed/locked, the MFD is still lit, and stuck on the last screen. The warning lights also stay on. Once the nav is removed from the installation list, and the battery disconnected for a few minutes then re-connected, everything goes back to normal. It's as if selecting nav freezes the communication to the instrument cluster at least partially with only the tach, speedo, and fuel gauge working. I see nothing in the scan that explains this, but here is the scan anyway. I know the radio, and nav don't show up as connected, but that's how it worked on my Golf with no issues, and idatalink says it should work. I'm going to update the Nav firmware tomorrow, and see if anything changes.

    Any ideas are welcome.

    Code:
    Monday,04,May,2015,20:17:30:49008
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 15.3.0.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20150314
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWRL7ATXDM656173   License Plate: BEETLE
    Mileage: 55200km-34299mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AT (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 44 56 77
    
    VIN: 3VWRL7ATXDM656173   Mileage: 55200km-34299miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 AN    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  4815  
       Revision: 12H15---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0050072
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 77FDDB7E06723480F6-8022
    
    1 Fault Found:
    000897 - Glow Plug/Heater Indicator Circuit 
                   P0381 - 000 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 55204 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 25.2C
                        Voltage: 12.39 V
                        Bin. Bits: 01000000
                        Torque: 219.0 Nm
                        Temperature: 46.8C
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 1 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 907 379 C    HW: 5C0 907 379 C
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0156  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: E14B401649270000870C02EB921C0042A71000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2E533E1A79A8354865-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 
       Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 086 1101  
       Revision: 00086000    Serial number: 0189241823
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02715
       ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_AU21.rod
       VCID: 34672C729F841F9813-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BC    HW: 5C0 820 047 BC
       Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
       Revision: 2001111S    Serial number: 00000001328242
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 62CB9A2ABDF0C128B1-8037
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 937 086 E    HW: 5C0 937 086 A
       Component: BCM25 JLB M3  H67 0256  
       Revision: B0067001    Serial number: 04351355120050
       Coding: 3BBC29B8080B080000A82800260D84C50082402F60000000B2E004000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 2E533E1A79A8354865-807B
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C5 959 801 M    HW: 5C5 959 801 M
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  011 1032 
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5C5 959 802 P    HW: 5C5 959 802 P
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  011 1032 
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5C0 959 442     HW: 5C0 959 442 
       Component: E221__MFL-YVJ  H02 0103 
       Coding: E20000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 Q    HW: 5C0 959 655 Q
       Component: AirbagVW10G   013 0851  
       Serial number: 003LKM02SBS6  
       Coding: 00004E45
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_SK35.rod
       VCID: 408F70A2DB3CB33887-8015
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
       Serial number: 6940000Y120000MHVX0U
       Coding: 30304C
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME2E022273ZZZP
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME59012273ZZZN
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3556LSME28180920ZZZO
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3566LSME7E0F0920ZZZ%
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5C5 920 970 G    HW: 5C5 920 970 G
       Component: KOMBI         H23 0103  
       Revision: X0023005    Serial number:               
       Coding: 250E01
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00125
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04712
       ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_VW01.rod
       VCID: 2F6D231E76A23C406E-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 086 A
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H67 0256  
       Revision: B0067001    
       Coding: 402000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 70EFE062A31C63B837-8025
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 55204 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.04
                        Time: 20:10:17
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5C5 920 970 G
       Component: IMMO          H23 0103  
       Revision: X0023005    Serial number:               
       Coding: 000007
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00125
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
       ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_SE25.rod
       VCID: 6ADBF20A8DC0996879-803F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B    HW: 5K0 905 861 B
       Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 12000268220003
       Coding: 4100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
       VCID: 2F6D231E76A23C406E-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0550  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7663908493    
       Coding: 010100
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5B320A45405968B9-807F
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00464 - Control Module with Display for Radio and Navigation (J503) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3305  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 377D1B7E46F2F48036-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00750 - Warning Lamp 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101101
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 55204 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.05.04
                        Time: 20:07:57
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 12.88 V
                            DD
                        Temperature: 31.0C
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Count: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K    HW: 7P6 035 730 K
       Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007663952008
       Coding: 0A10040000010110
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
       ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
       VCID: 3A7B024ABDE0E9E8C9-806F
    
    2 Faults Found:
    9457427 - Left audio channel for speech/telephone 
              B104F 13 [009] - Short to GND
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 55204 km
                        Date: 2015.05.04
                        Time: 20:12:38
    
    9457171 - Right audio channel for speech/telephone 
              B104E 13 [009] - Short to GND
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 55204 km
                        Date: 2015.05.04
                        Time: 20:12:38
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:37)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-05-2015 at 08:50 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    I updated the Nav firmware, and OS for the Kenwood. The result was the same as before. ADS is working on finding a manual transmission Beetle TDI to test since they only tested a DSG, and assumed the manual would be the same. There is definitely something different, and I hope to have an explanation soon. I had hoped to see a scan from a manual transmission Beetle TDI with Nav to see if there are any obvious differences in coding other than Nav in the installation list. It would appear this is a rare combination.
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    I've found several scans of other Beetle TDI's and notice one difference between them, and mine. They all have B9 Aux display in the list of installed modules. I have the gauges on the dash, and they work fine, but no B9 module in the installation list ( which I'm told is the aux. Instruments on the dash ). The B9 is not available to add in the installation list either. I would appreciate any information on this.
    Last edited by BeetleTDI; 06-21-2015 at 01:21 AM. Reason: Correction

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    They have all: 6R0 907 530.. for [19-CAN Gateway] and 6R0 937 088.. for [09-Cent.Elect.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEtech View Post
    They have all: 6R0 907 530.. for [19-CAN Gateway] and 6R0 937 088.. for [09-Cent.Elect.]
    I thought this might be the case, but I recently received a scan from another Beetle TDI 6 spd manual that has the same modules I have, but also has the B9. I don't mind upgrading the 09-Cent.Elect. if that will add functions I want, but I would like to make sure it will work, then I need to get the details on how to do it. I've seen one other Beetle that was upgraded, but can't get the details. If the last scan I found is any indication, it would appear I don't need to upgrade. The only difference between that Beetle and mine is the software version on the 09 module, and the fact it has B9, and Telematics. I would post that scan, but I only have it in PDF, and can't get it to post as code and keep the format correct.

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