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    UK Golf MK7 TDI Trailer coding Westfalia dedicated electrics

    Hello all,

    I've recently installed a towbar/hitch unit to my car with a dedicated electrics kit. The controller module is produced by Westfalia and the installation went well with no issues. Basic functionality on the car works when my cycle rack is connected up (lights) so thats a bonus .

    I now need to enable the controller but I'm struggling to understand what extra features should be adjusted for when the towbar is being used e.g. disabling parking sensors and adaptive cruise functions etc. Having spoken to Westfalia they have directed back to VCDS to seek my answers.

    Does anyone know of the details required to make the changes and how I make them?

    Can provide more details upon request.

    Many thanks
    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mortar View Post
    Can provide more details upon request.
    Posting an Auto-Scan would probably be useful.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Sure thing:

    Code:
    Sunday,26,April,2015,20:07:43:12050
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20150311
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN:    License Plate: 
    Mileage: 35382km-21985mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F 69
    
    VIN:    Mileage: 35382km-21985miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CRBC)       Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 021 DS    HW: 04L 907 309 D
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H22 5514  
       Revision: 83H22---    
       Coding: 01190012034505082000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00080
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DS 002009
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DS_AU37.rod
       VCID: 79F9D0CDF8F640E9291-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 379 D
       Component: ESC           H75 0437  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 01FA8AA120290A6F037E060301C32980510450C0608094F3F4685024C0
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 008020
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7DF1C4DDECDE7CC9059-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 J    HW: 5G0 907 426 J
       Component: AC Manuell    H01 0503  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00120104202100001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 002017
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SE37.rod
       VCID: 326B27E1650073B1A8B-8067
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 N    HW: 5Q0 937 084 N
       Component: BCM MQBAB M   H14 0106  
       Serial number: 00011312001711
       Coding: 03000842C241027B0FA44080B1040328100A000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 010001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_VW37.rod
       VCID: 43857225CABACA3933D-8016
    
       Slave 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A
       Component: WWS    130424  042 0551 
       Serial number:         130426142308
       Coding: 0E4DD5
    
       Slave 2: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559     HW: 5Q0 955 559   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLS  024 0042 
       Serial number: Y13M04D25H08M06S36S2
       Coding: 00A8DD
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0313 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY130940ALJ
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000056701544
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 C    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H02 0033  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 94231312200395
       Coding: 0071051001
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002019
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000.rod
       VCID: 3B750AC5B24AB2F97BD-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels: 5Q0-907-567.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 567 G    HW: 5Q0 907 567 G
       Component: ACC3          H08 0390  
       Serial number: 25041375030007
       Coding: 00000300FE0309
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBoschMQB 001021
       ROD: EV_ACCBoschMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3F8D7ED5A652AED9575-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 M    HW: 5Q0 959 655 M
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003M1R02TXC0
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00055
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 4A9B5F01ED901B71F0B-801F
    
       Seat belt tensioner; left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169677B09051351001
       Coding: 333135
    
       Seat belt tensioner; right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169676B02051370513
       Coding: 333135
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 904 13
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 3576700000005280DC0P
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 904 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358670000008B64D3D01
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 205 13
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502B71050653C2B%
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 205 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502B91050651F32 
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 604 13
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502B71050652119V
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AG    HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 10051304220801
       Coding: 0D00
       Shop #: WSC 40195 333 37120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_SE37.rod
       VCID: 7BF5CAC5F2CA72F93BD-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 960 A    HW: 5G0 920 960 A
       Component: KOMBI         236 0580  
       Coding: 27A401002780260001886A01040000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 275DC6B55EC206190F5-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    1048578 - No Basic Setting 
              B2010 00 [009] -  - 
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 142
                        Mileage: 35273 km
                        Date: 2015.04.24
                        Time: 16:53:26
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 F    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
       Component: GW MQB High   125 1109  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000531230
       Coding: 030100040B087300EF00045C080F00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 006010
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_VW37.rod
       VCID: 346721F99F147D81BA7-8061
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multifunction unit control module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K    HW: 5G0 959 442 K
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H14 0035 
       Serial number: 23130000530220060291
       Coding: 2C0000
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 3215090403          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593     HW: 5Q4 959 593 
       Component: TSG FS        007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000060942755 
       Coding: 003B0220D001028000001000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00208
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 020BB7219520033178B-8057
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000001347752
       Coding: 0D0000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
       Coding: 81
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 3D7104DDAC5EBCC9459-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592     HW: 5Q4 959 592 
       Component: TSG BFS       007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000059729182 
       Coding: 003B0020DE01028000801000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 0109B82D90261829611-8054
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000001357186
       Coding: 050000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 858     HW: 5G0 035 858 
       Component: MU-S-ND-ER    039 0170  
       Serial number: V5F00305130296
       Coding: 02730001FF00000021111201002800001F0100060100010045
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002036
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 69D9808D8856F069D91-803C
    
       Media Player Position 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 D    HW: 5G0 919 605 D
       Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H44 0020 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9N3401TJX      
    
       Engine Control Module 2: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 866 D    HW: -----------
       Component:  ECE 2013  --- 0021 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 5Q0-907-383.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 383     HW: 5Q0 907 383 
       Component: Anhaenger     H11 0030  
       Revision: 6A001003    Serial number: 00008200913436
       Coding: 0100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella 001001
       ROD: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella.rod
       VCID: 74E7E1F9DF943D817A7-8021
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:38)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 04-26-2015 at 03:39 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mortar View Post

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    Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: 5Q0-907-383.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 383 HW: 5Q0 907 383
    Component: Anhaenger H11 0030
    Revision: 6A001003 Serial number: 00008200913436
    Coding: 0100000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella 001001
    ROD: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella.rod
    VCID: 74E7E1F9DF943D817A7-8021

    No fault code found.

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:38)--------------------------
    I made one change to the coding after installation to remove a 9-pin electrics error I kept seeing because on my installation the car only using the 7-pin wiring system. The Long Coding helper was able to tell me which bit to change
    Coding: 0100000200000000

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    Any thoughts anyone?

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    Gateway list Coding, marker on [69 Trailer] (I guess you have done that).
    Changed Coding [ECU no.]
    01190012035505082000 [01]
    03020842C241027B0FA44080B1040328100A00000000000000 0000000000 [09]
    0071051101 [10]
    25041B75030007 [13]

    I think it should work.
    I don't know which towbar you have.
    But I would suggest to have it done at the dealer, on-line with SVM code.
    So that everything is coded and all is registered on server for this VIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEtech View Post
    Gateway list Coding, marker on [69 Trailer] (I guess you have done that).
    Changed Coding [ECU no.]
    01190012035505082000 [01]
    03020842C241027B0FA44080B1040328100A00000000000000 0000000000 [09]
    0071051101 [10]
    25041B75030007 [13]

    I think it should work.
    I don't know which towbar you have.
    But I would suggest to have it done at the dealer, on-line with SVM code.
    So that everything is coded and all is registered on server for this VIN.
    Thanks for the reply. Yes I've enabled the controller though the CanGateway section if thats what you mean.

    The Towbar controller unit is Westfalia (part number 305406300107). It isn't a VW unit but apparently they use the same one.

    Are those codes followed by numbers in the square brackets the long code numbers for the different controllers? If they are how have you figured out which parts to change (just curious)? What does each line item change the function of?

    I know there's a risk involved by making the changes myself but I really wanted to avoid leaning on the dealer network to sort this out, hence why i bought the VCDS cable in the first instance

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mortar View Post
    Are those codes followed by numbers in the square brackets the long code numbers for the different controllers?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mortar View Post
    If they are how have you figured out which parts to change (just curious)?
    Testing, research etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mortar View Post
    What does each line item change the function of?
    So the ECU's know a towbar is installed.

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    Good stuff.

    I guess with these codes then, as long as I make a copy of the original, make the change and say it doesn't work I can hopefully revert it and be back to the original working position?

    Do you know what each line change actually does then so I have some way of testing that its done something?

    Cheers

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