P2196 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1 - Signal too high (rich)

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Hello all.

I recently installed a CTS K04 kit on my 2012 Mk6 GLI. A couple days after install, I got a CEL.

1 Fault Found:
008598 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1
P2196 - 000 - Signal too High (Rich) - MIL ON

So to diagnose it, I checked measuring blocks 1, 32, and 34.
I didn't appear to be running rich since adaptation at idle was at 0.8% and partial was at -1.6%.

So I took out the gasket from the DP and turbo connection to inspect it, and it felt super cheap and flimsy so I replaced it with an OEM one. Slapped the DP back on and the code came back a week after I cleared it.

At this point I'm stumped.

If anyone can give me some insight, that'd be great.
 
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Code: 
Wednesday,08,April,2015,21:45:13:20695
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150311
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VW5A7AJ7CM371691   License Plate: ROSTY
Mileage: 95280km-59204mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 42 44 46 47 4F 52 56
          62 72

VIN: 3VW5A7AJ7CM371691   Mileage: 95280km-59204miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels: 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 027 K    HW: 06J 907 309 B
   Component: MED17.5.2 TFSI 2 03 1638  
   Revision: PAH04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0403010818070160
   Shop #: WSC 64820 896 16640
   VCID: 336F5E985265BFB9A3D-8066

1 Fault Found:
008598 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1 
               P2196 - 000 - Signal too High (Rich) - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 94132 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.27
                    Time: 13:09:22

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2193 /min
                    Load: 9.4 %
                    Speed: 52.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 95.0°C
                    Temperature: 31.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: A14B600C492980FB851106ED921A0141B71800
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 7DFBB8A0E4A1B9C9059-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 B
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 085 0902  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 0156993523
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_AU21.rod
   VCID: 346D5D849F6BB881BA7-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 FE    HW: 5K0 907 044 FE
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0000001002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00123
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 73EF9E98DAE5FFB963D-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 N    HW: 5K0 937 086 N
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064  
   Revision: BJ021001    
   Coding: 6F200A3A9C2F2EC400080080000085E44728B48844808DF25C802000A040
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 3F8702A8AE2D6BD9575-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 E    HW: 5C0 959 655 E
   Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0808  
   Serial number: 003GTM03SSUU  
   Coding: 00003937
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01023
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_SK35.rod
   VCID: 346D5D849F6BB881BA7-8061

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 A    HW: 5C6 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0045 
   Serial number: 6940000Y120000AHDJ0T
   Coding: 303041

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME59435164ZZZU

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME2E514166ZZZX

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME61537C15ZZZT

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME0C487915ZZZ-

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME0E0E5311ZZZW

   Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME54055311ZZZJ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AR    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111016101916
   Coding: 0002140000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00201
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7DFBB8A0ECA1B9C9059-8028

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 971 B    HW: 5C6 920 971 B
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0617  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 271E01
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00123
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 2C5D45E4475BE041E27-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H40 1623  
   Revision:   H40       Serial number: 18011201290980
   Coding: 351002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3D7B78A0A42179C9459-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0617  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00123
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 6AD183FC8D2F3E71D0B-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 A    HW: 5K0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0230  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000211878001
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2E594FEC71479251CC3-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7660517459    
   Coding: 020000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2953BCF040A9F569191-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 B    HW: 1K0 035 274 B
   Component: RNS315-NAR    H35 0265  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2M8493257
   Coding: 04090041010006000000100A
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS A01004
   ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 234FAED82A852F3953D-8076

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
   Component: NAR_V2  0002 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0515  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0003803119
   Coding: 0004B5
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5BBFD638527557F95BD-800E

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  007 1508 
   Serial number: 00000006185376      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 N
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3301  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 356B60805C11A1898D9-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 456 B    HW: 3T0 035 456 B
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H06 0362  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: BP225319963357
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3.rod
   VCID: 306551946B7384A1DEF-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: EZE_2         H40 1623  
   Revision:   H40       Serial number: 18011201290980
   Coding: 01030100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6FE792E8BECDDB59875-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS41.022  H09 0007 
   Coding: 180000

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0515  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0003775667
   Coding: 0004B4
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5CBDD524577B50C1527-8009

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 B    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1508 
   Serial number: 00000006234807      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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I feel like that's highly unlikely since I didn't even touch it during k04 install...
 
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I feel like that's highly unlikely since I didn't even touch it during k04 install...
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Hmmmmm auuuuuuu Ooooooooooo-okay! Good Coffee!

Ahhh when you run the K04 and higher boost PSI...... the spring rate in said N80 or other valves connected to intake that could allow for the rich gases to enter upon being stuck open, or even sporadically say at full tank time........

Don't be so sure because you did something in one area it can't effect another.

Check with your tuner maybe calibrations are not correct?
Who is your tune with?

The other is maybe an injector sticking but an N80 is much easier to check or change/cheaper.

On high boost cars I build for race track.
I install a strong metal one way valve........
This allow vapors in when switched, and boost blocked from the N80 that it might not be able to handle.
 
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I tuned with GIAC.

Wouldn't there be a separate code for N80 though?
 
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I tuned with GIAC.

Wouldn't there be a separate code for N80 though?
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Unfortunately most likely no or not always...............

You should let GIAC know though and see what they think or are experiencing any issues on other cars.
Respectfully, this happens on stock cars all the time due to the valve being made of straw and human feces......
 
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This code does not mean the car is running rich 4 sure. It means that the upstream O2 sensor is showing rich HOWEVER the downstream O2 sensor does not show a value corresponding with the rich condition of the upstream O2 sensor. This is a part of O2 sensor plausibility monitoring strategy. Which will compare readings of both O2 sensors and figure out if the readings of the upstream O2 sensor correspond with readings of the downstream O2 sensor.

I believe (don't know for sure) that you can check this in MVB 37 field 3 with the result inn field 4. Anytime that the ratio of those readings gets out of predetermined values, you will get the plausibility code (rich or lean).

Exhaust leaks can cause that as well as bad O2 sensors, upstream, downstream or both.

MVB 32 was OK and well within the idle +/- 6% and part idle +/- 21% specification because the system did not recognized the upstream rich reading as valid.

Monitor MVB 30 to see the O2 sensor status, MVB 31 to see voltages, MVB 32 to see adaptation and MVB 37 to see the difference in lambda (lean / neutral / rich) in field 3. Anything out of 0 will indicate that there is a difference between readings of upstream and downstream O2 sensors. I think, you will have a problem if this value is outside +/- 0.03.

Let us know, screenshot would be nice.

Andy.
 
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Could you do me a favor and clear codes and post an immediate new auto-scan after car has ran for 10 minutes at idle not driven?

Is the down pipe larger than the original and or is the CAT present or a larger unit?
 
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