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    Audi A3 8V retrofitting Audi Music Interface (AMI)

    Hello,
    Happy to be part of this community. My case is following:
    I have successfully retrofitted the Audi Music Interface (AMI) to my A3 sedan (8V0). Original AUX interface has been replaced with the AMI/USB combination and required wire harness has been installed and connected to the MMI Radio as well.

    Retrofit kit what I have used is this:
    http://www.carsystems.pl/audi-a3-8v-...fit,id961.html

    There is a note saying: VAS programming is required after installation

    The problem is that MMI still thinks that original AUX is present not the AMI and thus the MMI should be re-coded. I have tried to figure it out with VCDS but unfortunately even the latest beta software doesn't support labels for module 5F - Information Electronics. Are there any ideas how I could proceed or do I just have to wait for the next VCDS release where the support for my car is present?

    I have already sent the Auto-scan and Controller Channel Maps for you by mail (those where taken by version 14.10.2.0 but Auto-scan with the latest beta 15.3.0 gave the same result set though).

    Thanks and regards,
    Rooster

    Code:
    Wednesday,25,March,2015,15:38:54:43720
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20150311
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    VIN: WAUZZZ8V7F1043297   License Plate:
    Mileage: 7108km-4416mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8V (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 55 5F
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8V7F1043297   Mileage: 7108km-4416miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CZEA)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 027 BL    HW: 04E 907 309 AB
       Component: 1.4l R4 TSI   H21 8139  
       Revision: R6H21---    
       Coding: 02250032242401082000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027BL 001006
       ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027BL.rod
       VCID: 6FED1358B637C459875-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0CW 300 047 T    HW: 0AM 927 769 K
       Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5202  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501406226128
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 17734 418 534600
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_AU37.rod
       VCID: 4C97A4D4E761DF41C27-8019
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 L    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
       Component: ESC           H31 0471  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 61924000001910
       Coding: 13F16AA22424126F0179060941CA29C856244880608294F2022100788608
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 458191F0C40B2E091D9-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels: 8V0-820-043.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 D    HW: 8V0 820 043 D
       Component: AC Automat    H13 0052  
       Revision: 20026000    Serial number: 00000000380730
       Coding: 03000014000000011000000000001100
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X 008020
       ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X.rod
       VCID: 3365DF289A9FA0B9A3D-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0134  
       Serial number: 01011416702002
       Coding: 04141A46C24122FD43C04004001807A80000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
       VCID: 000F40E49BA9CB216EF-8055
    
       Slave 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 C    HW: 8V1 955 119 A
       Component: WWS371 140711  042 0585 
       Serial number:         140715225852
       Coding: 0A47F7
    
       Slave 2: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B
       Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
       Serial number: 22867854            
       Coding: 00006C
    
       Slave 3: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 L    HW: 8V0 941 531 L
       Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
       Serial number: 30 03 2014  00000637
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591     HW: 8V3 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS73.014  H02 0007 
       Serial number:     WOO3006111T     
       Coding: 901E00
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 5Q0-919-283.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 E    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0051  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39231418901291
       Coding: 0000050011
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002022
       ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3B75F708B2CF68F97BD-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AB    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AB
       Component: AirbagVW20    014 0385  
       Serial number: 003MMR01N4V4
       Coding: 98CCC0000C0000005C5400CA004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 000F40E49BA9CB216EF-8055
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 707 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000413BC001H
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 707 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000D6875101R
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 807 14
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502AD1656B84928J
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 807 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502C31697523C186
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 207 14
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502C7156E9E1D0BX
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian protection crash sensor; driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 207 14
       Component: PedP_Sensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 2286502BF165690461DG
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian protection crash sensor; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 207 14
       Component: PedP_Sensor_P  001 6149 
       Serial number: 2296502B51656905C189
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian Protection Driver 2: 
       Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 704 14
       Component: PedPSensor_D2  001 0887 
       Serial number: I0M800000009938D6F0P
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian Protection Passenger 2: 
       Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 704 14
       Component: PedPSensor_P2  001 0887 
       Serial number: I0N80000000A938D6F0R
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 CB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
       Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 14071404220163
       Coding: A018
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 7CF73414F741AFC1327-8029
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 920 871     HW: 8V0 920 871 
       Component: KOMBI         H02 4291  
       Coding: 07A519082B8000080100A8001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 79F92D00F8739AE9291-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 T    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
       Component: GW MQB High   212 2186  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 07071410801857
       Coding: 030100042F0857005B0002481C0B00000001010000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011017
       ROD: EV_GatewConti_AU37.rod
       VCID: 428B8AECD525193138B-8017
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multifunction unit control module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 A    HW: 8U0 951 528 A
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0014 
       Serial number: 02 07 2014  E0001942
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E    HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8043 
       Serial number: 0222073903          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 B    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 01071403110396
       Coding: 001C8F204000040000001002
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 408F80E4DB290B212EF-8015
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P    HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  123 1043  
       Coding: 8103
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 418985E0D0230229211-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 B    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
       Serial number: 11071403111530
       Coding: 001C87204C00040000001002
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3F8D8318A6D774D9575-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 5Q0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 A
       Component: LWR-ECU       005 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 019A000001000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 75E12130D46BFE894D9-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V0 035 840 B    HW: 8V0 035 840 B
       Component: MU-S--ER      041 0420  
       Serial number: A3E01107142410
       Coding: 01730100FF00000011110001000A00002F0001040100010002
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd6C3PASE 002010
       ROD: EV_MUStd6C3PASE_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3467DC349F91A781BA7-8061
    
       Seat Adjustment Driver Side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 603 C    HW: 8V0 919 603 C
       Component: DU Std  H49 0013 
       Serial number: AUZ8Z9EY304XMC      
    
       Sound System: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 P    HW: 8V0 919 614 P
       Component: ControlUnit_B  H41 0054 
       Serial number: C1000003071400020201
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End---------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:45, Deb=2)-----------------------

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    Try 01730100FF00000021110001000A00002F0001040100010002 as your new coding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    Try 01730100FF00000021110001000A00002F0001040100010002 as your new coding.
    Hi Sebastian,

    And thanks for the new coding! That was one major step forward, because now the MMI identifies AMI correctly.
    But unfortunately even if I connect the proper AMI adapter, MMI radio states AMI not connected.

    VCDS error log for 5F prompts the following:
    Code:
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V0 035 840 B    HW: 8V0 035 840 B
       Component: MU-S--ER      041 0420  
       Serial number: A3E01107142410
       Coding: 01730100FF00000021110001000A00002F0001040100010002
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd6C3PASE 002010
       ROD: EV_MUStd6C3PASE_AU37.rod
       VCID: 346D15609F5F409813-8061
    
       Seat Adjustment Driver Side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 603 C    HW: 8V0 919 603 C
       Component: DU Std  H49 0013 
       Serial number: AUZ8Z9EY304XMC      
    
       Sound System: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 P    HW: 8V0 919 614 P
       Component: ControlUnit_B  H41 0054 
       Serial number: C1000003071400020201
    
    1 Fault Found:
    1024 - Interface for External Media Devices (MEDIA-IN) 
              B1288 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 125
                        Mileage: 7420 km
                        Date: 2015.04.04
                        Time: 14:45:54
    Any further tips?

    Thanks and regards,
    Rooster

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    Assuming the coding I provided is correct (which is indicated by the DTC), the only thing I can think of is either an issue with your wiring or an issue with the parts you installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    Assuming the coding I provided is correct (which is indicated by the DTC), the only thing I can think of is either an issue with your wiring or an issue with the parts you installed.
    Thanks Sebastian for your reply.
    With the original coding I was able to get sound through even though the MMI showed that media input is AUX (and thus the steering wheel controls etc. didn't work at all).
    So based on that I think that wiring is correctly in place and at least the AMI interface is also working properly. With new coding MMI shows AMI input in source selection but I cannot select it because of not connected message.

    Last thing what I can do is to try the AMI with another adapter and let see what happens.

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    If you purchased VCDS from one of our distributors, please register with us for technical support using this page: http://www.ross-tech.com/vca/hex-com-reg.php. After doing so one of the guys can change your forum status to Verified VCDS User so this can me moved to the Retrofit sub-forum.

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    Tried today with another AMI adapter; iPhone Lightning (4F0051510AL) and still the same unwanted result.
    Adapter is not recognized even thought the sound goes through if the coding is reverted back to the original (AUX input).

    If there are no other coding option available then my last option is to try refitting the wires...

    Edit: Noticed today that iPhone gets power via AMI Lightning adapter but still the audio input is not triggered.
    Last edited by Rooster; 04-14-2015 at 10:58 AM.

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    Tried today with the latest VCDS beta 15.5.0 and still no labels for 5F module. I'm quite sure that wiring is correctly in place... Any ideas what could cause this 'Open Circuit' error.

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    did you have AUX and MDI?

    because in your coding is mark MDI and AUX!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala30 View Post
    did you have AUX and MDI?

    because in your coding is mark MDI and AUX!!!!
    Hi Lala30,
    And thanks for your reply. Originally I only had the AUX input and the coding for AUX was:
    01730100FF00000011110001000A00002F0001040100010002

    Now I have retrofitted the AMI interface and changed the coding as proposed:
    01730100FF00000021110001000A00002F0001040100010002

    I assume that MDI is the same as AMI, am I right? So what should be changed then if there is mismatch in coding?
    Can you point out which part of the code is still indicating that AUX is present?

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    Rooster
    Last edited by Rooster; 05-18-2015 at 11:37 AM.

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