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    Quote Originally Posted by sanrivera View Post
    Hello,



    How did you confirm that CAN is properly connected? In the original wiring, there are four wires that connect to the headlamp range control module: pin 1 (yellow/green), pin 2 (green/brown), pin 3 (green/grey), pin 4 (green black). So, which wires did you use to connect to the CAN?


    Sanjeev
    pls scan,i dont know what kind of healights you have know.i dont see this wirings colors in elsa

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    hi have xenon without AFS


    and hi need to conect from light _
    pin 1 left and right side together and pin 2 from left and right side together
    and put in AFS modul in pin 4 and 5


    in pin 4 AFS unit from pin 1 left and right ( yellow /green + gray/yellow)
    in pin 5 AFS unit from pin 2 left and right ( green /brown+ gray/brown)

    to put new wirea ground to pin 10

    power KL 15 from B box in pin 8 ( fuse 5A)
    power KL 15 from C box in pin 9 ( fuse 15 A)

    hi need to change place ,
    now pin 10 on pin 11 ( black/blue)
    now pin 9 on pin 13 ( black /white)
    now pin 8 on pin 14 ( brown /blue) only US !!!!!!


    [U]pin 3 ,4 and 11 headlight not use anymore
    [/U]
    Last edited by lala30; 04-22-2015 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala30 View Post
    hi have xenon without AFS


    and hi need to conect from light _
    pin 1 left and right side together and pin 2 from left and right side together
    and put in AFS modul in pin 4 and 5


    in pin 4 AFS unit from pin 1 left and right ( yellow /green + gray/yellow)
    in pin 5 AFS unit from pin 2 left and right ( green /brown+ gray/brown)

    to put new wirea ground to pin 10

    power KL 15 from B box in pin 8 ( fuse 5A)
    power KL 15 from C box in pin 9 ( fuse 15 A)

    hi need to change place ,
    now pin 10 on pin 11 ( black/blue)
    now pin 9 on pin 13 ( black /white)
    now pin 8 on pin 14 ( brown /blue) only US !!!!!!


    [U]pin 3 ,4 and 11 headlight not use anymore
    [/U]
    Hi Lala,

    Thank you for trying to help. I want to confirm that you have full LED headlights installed, yes? (I am retrofitting from Bi-xenon to full LED.)

    Please see the below table I created. I hope it is clear. Can you please confirm the table and see my questions below.
    Connect to Function
    LED Pin 1 AFS unit Pin 4 ?? AFS module
    LED Pin 2 AFS unit Pin 5 ?? AFS module
    LED Pin 3 Not used
    LED Pin 4 Not used
    LED Pin 5 HID Xenon wire 5 (brown) ground
    LED Pin 6 HID Xenon wire 6 (black/yellow) low beam+
    LED Pin 7 ??
    LED Pin 8 B box - fuse 5A KL 15/cornering lamp?
    LED Pin 9 C box - fuse 15A KL 15/cornering lamp?
    LED Pin 10 New ground wire ground
    LED Pin 11 HID Xenon wire 10 (black/blue) DRL+
    LED Pin 12 HID Xenon wire 12 (black/grey) DRL+
    LED Pin 13 HID Xenon wire 9 (black/white) DRL turn signal
    LED Pin 14 HID Xenon wire 8 (brown/blue) side marker

    Questions:
    1) What is KL 15? Is this cornering light?
    2) How do I connect to AFS unit? Do I need new wiring harness to connect?
    3) How do I connect LED pin 8 to B box? Do I need new wiring harness to connect?
    4) How do I connect LED pin 8 to C box? Do I need new wiring harness to connect?
    5) Where does LED pin 7 connect?
    6) Where does LED pin 12 connect? When I tested connections, I need BOTH LED pin 11 and pin 12 connected to power for DRL to work.

    Thanks so much for your help!

    Sanjeev

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniken View Post
    pls scan,i dont know what kind of healights you have know.i dont see this wirings colors in elsa
    Hi Maniken. I currently have Bi-Xenon and am converting to full LED. Please see below autoscan, but it will show various faults and incorrect AFS module, as I needed to change wiring and AFS module. My 5F module is also locked out intentionally.

    Code:
    Saturday,18,April,2015,15:58:04:46498
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 15.3.0.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20150314
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUBFGFF5F1009627   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 25086km-15587mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: FF (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 42 44 52 55 5F
    
    VIN: WAUBFGFF5F1009627   Mileage: 25086km-15587miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CNTC)       Labels: 06K-907-425-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 A    HW: 06K 907 425 B
       Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002  
       Revision: --H13---    
       Coding: 0A1D00124426000F2000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259A 001004
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259A.rod
       VCID: 2C57477647BE95584B-8079
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 1010 1101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 0D9 300 011 S    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
       Component: DQ250-6A MQB  H52 4312  
       Revision: 05852204    Serial number: TFK01402042463
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 04742 780 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
       VCID: 2541B2522454A41094-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AA    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
       Component: ESC           H31 0457  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 60424000001522
       Coding: 13FF6A9234200A75017D030281CA29C8562C5080C08194B4024100588608
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 7BF5B42AF250C2E092-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels: 8V0-820-047.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 820 047 E    HW: 8V0 820 047 E
       Component: AC Manuell el H11 0052  
       Revision: 20021000    Serial number: 00000000051347
       Coding: 00000004100000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontManAU37X 008018
       ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontManAU37X.rod
       VCID: 387F6B2683E629F83F-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 085 S    HW: 5Q0 937 085 S
       Component: BCM MQBAB MNA H16 0124  
       Serial number: 00011403600588
       Coding: 04141A46C041227541C04004511007000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 012001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
       VCID: 49991EE2E80CA07050-801C
    
       Slave 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 C    HW: 8V1 955 119 A
       Component: WWS371 140212  041 0585 
       Serial number:         140217143949
       Coding: 0A47F7
    
       Slave 2: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 A    HW: 8U0 955 559 A
       Component: G397_RLS  H06 0002 
       Serial number: 20145817            
       Coding: 02006C
    
       Slave 3: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 K    HW: 8V0 941 531 K
       Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
       Serial number: 26 11 2013  00000932
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000029008875
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591     HW: 8V3 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS73.009  H02 0007 
       Serial number:     WOO27317150     
       Coding: 101F00
    
    2 Faults Found:
    18698 - Left LED Module for DRL and Parking Lights 
              B12EC F2 [009] - Voltage Supply Open or Short to Plus
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 199
                        Mileage: 25086 km
                        Date: 2015.04.18
                        Time: 15:49:33
    
    19210 - Right LED Module for DRL and Parking Lights 
              B12ED F2 [009] - Voltage Supply Open or Short to Plus
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 199
                        Mileage: 25086 km
                        Date: 2015.04.18
                        Time: 15:49:33
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
       Component: AirbagVW20    009 0825  
       Serial number: 003GCR005X3D
       Coding: 9DCCFCC0000000005000001AC24800000065
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 479D18DAFE18560046-8012
    
       Seat belt tensioner; left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0341 
       Serial number: 34178311A20021470231
       Coding: 333135
    
       Seat belt tensioner; right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0341 
       Serial number: 34178312A19021471240
       Coding: 333135
    
       Seat occupant detection; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
       Serial number: 6940000Y14000129KJ0N
       Coding: 303139
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 402 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357000000002A530DE0J
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 003 101 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 3580000000080094DE0L
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 302 14
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3510002C912AB1B2E3CD
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 302 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3520002AF12AB1B071A5
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 501 14
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3550002C712FAE2500B8
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 301 14
       Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3560002B112FAE208194
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 CB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
       Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 17021408491100
       Coding: A018
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 7CF7B736F75EC5D89B-8029
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 920 960 B    HW: 8V0 920 960 B
       Component: KOMBI         H02 2220  
       Coding: 0BF518092B80B7050200EA00180000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3A7B712EBDEA3BE8C9-806F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 Q    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
       Component: GW MQB High   212 2163  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 15021410802100
       Coding: 0101000820085A005B00020C180B00000001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 010015
       ROD: EV_GatewConti_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3F8D003AA6C81EC0FE-806A
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multifunction unit control module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 C    HW: 8U0 951 528 C
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0014 
       Serial number: 07 01 2015  D0012612
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 D    HW: 0CQ 907 554 D
       Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7076  
       Serial number: HA1-00009.01.14
       Coding: 0001
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002001
       ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_AU21.rod
       VCID: 468315DEF9124F08BD-8013
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 09021401100960
       Coding: 00100F204000048000000002
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3E737D3EA1C217C8F5-806B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P    HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  123 1043  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 418906C2D03C683088-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B    HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
       Serial number: 01021403111365
       Coding: 001007204000048000000002
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3D717A32ACC40CD0EC-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 5Q0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 A
       Component: LWR-ECU       005 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 012A000101000000
       Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 75E1A212D4749490E4-8020
    
    2 Faults Found:
    5276949 - Positioning Motor for Headlight Range Left 
              C1085 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 199
    
    5277205 - Positioning Motor for Headlight Range Right 
              C1086 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 199
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr.
    Cannot be reached
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:22)--------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanrivera View Post
    Hi Lala,

    Thank you for trying to help. I want to confirm that you have full LED headlights installed, yes? (I am retrofitting from Bi-xenon to full LED.)

    Please see the below table I created. I hope it is clear. Can you please confirm the table and see my questions below.
    Connect to Function
    LED Pin 1 AFS unit Pin 4 ?? AFS module
    LED Pin 2 AFS unit Pin 5 ?? AFS module
    LED Pin 3 Not used
    LED Pin 4 Not used
    LED Pin 5 HID Xenon wire 5 (brown) ground
    LED Pin 6 HID Xenon wire 6 (black/yellow) low beam+
    LED Pin 7 ??
    LED Pin 8 B box - fuse 5A KL 15/cornering lamp?
    LED Pin 9 C box - fuse 15A KL 15/cornering lamp?
    LED Pin 10 New ground wire ground
    LED Pin 11 HID Xenon wire 10 (black/blue) DRL+
    LED Pin 12 HID Xenon wire 12 (black/grey) DRL+
    LED Pin 13 HID Xenon wire 9 (black/white) DRL turn signal
    LED Pin 14 HID Xenon wire 8 (brown/blue) side marker

    Questions:
    1) What is KL 15? Is this cornering light?
    2) How do I connect to AFS unit? Do I need new wiring harness to connect?
    3) How do I connect LED pin 8 to B box? Do I need new wiring harness to connect?
    4) How do I connect LED pin 8 to C box? Do I need new wiring harness to connect?
    5) Where does LED pin 7 connect?
    6) Where does LED pin 12 connect? When I tested connections, I need BOTH LED pin 11 and pin 12 connected to power for DRL to work.

    Thanks so much for your help!

    Sanjeev
    hello


    yes I retrofit full LED light , I have before just like you !

    you have lots of question but I try to help
    first AFS unit is : Address 55: Headlight Range
    now you have in this unit plug in red color
    and you need to :
    remove out wires from pin 15 & 17 and connect together and put in pin 4
    wires from pin 19 & 21 and connect together and put in pin 5


    next

    you must to pull wires from fuse box C
    from SC 37 to left headlight pin 9
    from SC 36 to right headlight pin 9

    now pin 10 on pin 11 ( black/blue)
    now pin 9 on pin 13 ( black /white)
    now pin 8 on pin 14 ( brown /blue) only US !!!!!!


    pin 3 ,4 and 11 headlight not use anymore

    pin 5 ,6, 7 and 12 on headlight dont touch ( use on new light)

    now is problem for explain but I try

    for pin 8 hedlight

    you need to pull witres from B-box in engine space

    from SB 32

    but if you dont have webasto

    yuo dont have holder for SB 32

    you need to buy !

    then
    this power you must get from relay
    and again you must to buy holder for relay
    when you all buy
    next step is :
    to get power from B-box
    from letter T1 and pull wire to holder relay and put in space 123
    , then you need to pull ground to holder relay in space 122,
    then you need to get from neighborhood relay from red green wires and pull to holder space 121
    when you finish you must to pull wires from space place relay 125 to SB 32 holder
    then from this SB 32 to pull wires from left and right side pin 9


    [IMG][/IMG]


    after this you need to put thiscoding in BCM :04141A46C041067541C040045110070000000000000000000 00000000000

    after this you need to go adaptation channel
    and change value for front light....
    Last edited by lala30; 04-23-2015 at 06:13 AM.

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    I hope this photo help you!



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    Connect to Function
    LED Pin 1 AFS unit Pin 4 ?? AFS module
    LED Pin 2 AFS unit Pin 5 ?? AFS module
    LED Pin 3 Not used
    LED Pin 4 Not used
    LED Pin 5 HID Xenon wire 5 (brown) ground
    LED Pin 6 HID Xenon wire 6 (black/yellow) low beam+
    LED Pin 7 Ground
    LED Pin 8 B box - fuse 5A + from b box
    LED Pin 9 C box - fuse 15A + from c box
    LED Pin 10 New ground wire ground
    LED Pin 11 HID Xenon wire 10 (black/blue) DRL+
    LED Pin 12 HID Xenon wire 12 (black/grey) DRL+
    LED Pin 13 HID Xenon wire 9 (black/white) DRL turn signal
    LED Pin 14 HID Xenon wire 8 (brown/blue) side marker

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    lala30 perfectly explained,good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala30 View Post
    I hope this photo help you!

    [IMG][/IMG]
    Only one small question. Regarding this picture ^^^^, this is the existing board for B-box in engine space, correct? I do not need to purchase new board?

    Thank you SO much for your help. Your instructions are VERY clear. This is probably the most useful information anyone has ever given me. Thanks again.

    Sanjeev

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    yes you have this E-box in car! no need to buy new !!!


    I show this one, because is easy for me !
    i have in garage few pices !

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