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    Rebuilt 2008 Caddy Van: Radiator Fan Issues

    Hi
    Vw caddy van with the radiator fan on all the time once the ignition is on 3 seconds later the fan runs.

    I tried another fan unit, i tried another relay for the j329. but no joy, the Engine Ecu has just been replaced with the instrument cluster, but we had the same problem with the old Ecu,, so ecu ok.
    disconnected the Rad outlet temp sensor G83 which i believe triggers the fan, The fan still run's. Changed the G83, Still no difference,
    This van has one large Radiator only, although my disc shows two fans,, NO Aircon Fitted,, Van is 2008 march build date, pdf i have also shows on engine side of image, coolant temp sender G62 which i think is for the ecu and dash temp and maybe with the other sensor they compare temp for rad speed etc.

    The only way to stop the fan is by taking out the fuse SB24 or removing the j329 relay, which does not fix the fault, i thought maybe it was in limp home mode, but looking at the autoscan did not see anything to cause this only Dtc for fan to ground.
    Does anyone know if the 2008 has a radiator fan control unit J293 or was this on earlier models only, if it does have one ,,where is it located on the van, i have seen some by the radiator fan itself but there are several variations, Need to eliminate the fan controller if it has one, other than that maybe wiring to ground as something is grounding it all the time it seems.

    MVB shows the temp sensor readings correct when cold 9 deg c and duty cycle of fan when on approx 87%.

    Code:
    Tuesday,03,March,2015,16:43:51:46146
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.1.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20150130
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ8X118552   License Plate: BF08 TVD
    Mileage: 78470km-48758mi   Repair Order: Dave scan 2
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 2K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 46 52 56
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ8X118552   Mileage: 78470km-48758miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 021 PD    HW: 03G 906 021 CG
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC  000SG  2387  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NB033
       Coding: 0000071
       Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
       VCID: 70EFFCFA631751A19E0-8025
    
    5 Faults Found:
    005685 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1635 - 000 - Missing Message from A/C Controller
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:30:53
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.08 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000100
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 16.0
    
    005716 - Please check DTC Memory of Instrument Cluster 
                   P1654 - 000 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:30:57
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.08 V
                        Temperature: 12.6*C
                        Temperature: 20.7*C
                        Temperature: 14.4*C
    
    001681 - Fan 1 Control Circuit 
                   P0691 - 000 - Short to GND
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:30:59
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.08 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000100
                        Temperature: 20.7*C
                        Duty Cycle: 9.7 %
    
    005660 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12) 
                   P161C - 000 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:33:48
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 945 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000100
                        Temperature: 20.7*C
                        Bin. Bits: 10110000
    
    005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
                   P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:33:48
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 945 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000100
                        Temperature: 20.7*C
                        Bin. Bits: 10110000
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF    HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
       Component: MABS MK70M          0104  
       Revision: 00H32001    
       Coding: 0020801
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00155
       VCID: 76E3CAE201737F9144C-8023
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                003 - Mechanical Failure
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000008045806
       Coding: 00884F030004100047000000000000000008FB075C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 6FEDFF867E294E5987A-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 121207 021  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 35110  
    
    5 Faults Found:
    02399 - Control Circuit for Terminal 30 for Interior Illumination 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01111001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.55 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01800 - Light Switch (E1) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 11.35 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 11.25 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.15 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00059 - Terminal 30 for Interior Lighting 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 11.25 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
       Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH    HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
       Component: 09 AIRBAG VW52  023 2400  
       Revision: 04023000    Serial number: 0037TD0H1Z1K  
       Coding: 0012345
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 7DF1D5CE24452CC9056-8028
    
    6 Faults Found:
    00595 - Crash Data Stored 
                000 -  -  - MIL ON
    01214 - Crash Data for Belt Tensioner Stored 
                000 -  -  - MIL ON
    00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
    00654 - Seat Belt Tensioner Igniter; Driver Side (N153) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
    00655 - Seat Belt Tensioner Igniter; Passenger Side (N154) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AE    HW: 1K0 953 549 AE
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 75E1CDEE1C7574894D6-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 2K0 920 944 C    HW: 2K0 920 944 C
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NB033
       Coding: 0016401
       Shop #: WSC 00464 210 83173
       VCID: 2C57288A8FBF7541E28-8079
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 79
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:05
    
    00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:04:18
    
    00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:09
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
       Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 040108F2001379
       Coding: 89801F020002027401
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 306F3CFAA39711A1DE0-8065
    
    9 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:16:56
    
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 117243 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 03:18:50
    
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 19:20:55
    
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:55:08
    
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 04:26:27
    
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 290145 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 02:33:14
    
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 98377 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:01
    
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 98377 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:02
    
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:36:34
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 2K0 920 944 C    HW: 2K0 920 944 C
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1212  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NB033
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2C57288A8FBF7541E28-8079
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 387F04DA4BE7C9E1960-806D
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
       Component:    KSG              0401  
       Coding: 998A0C087F2D8405485A030010C0
       Shop #: WSC 00581 210 71811
       VCID: 000FAC3A53B741216E0-8055
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    7 Faults Found:
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    02483 - Module for Locking of Rear Lid (F327) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    01038 - Central Locking Thermal Protection 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 397901DE70EDD0E969E-806C
    
    6 Faults Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
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    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
       Component: Radio BVX       016 0023  
       Coding: 0040400
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 336533F652812AB9A32-8066
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:15)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 03-04-2015 at 08:31 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    First thing I would do with this is to clear all fault codes in every module individually, then re-scan and see what comes back.

    Right now your scan has a very low signal-to-noise ratio, probably due to some of the testing you've done.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Ok Thanks
    will try tomorrow, and post new autoscan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    a very low signal-to-noise ratio-Uwe-
    good 1 and such an elegant way to say it.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by roth View Post
    good 1 and such an elegant way to say it.

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    005685 See a lot of this what causes it.

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    005685 - Powertrain Data Bus
    P1635 - 000 - Missing Message from A/C Controller

    Tells you that the control module you found that code in is expecting data from the HVAC control module, but isn't getting it. Note that in the scan above, there's no HVAC control module present; it's not in the GVL, nor in the scan itself.

    What kind of HVAC controls does this Caddy have?

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    The van was bought and repaired, i dont know what condition the van was in when the owner bought it,, I know it has NO air conditioning, Only a std heater, The engine ecu with cluster and lock set has been changed as we had problems getting the skc's the cost was the price of a key second hand items, Here is a Autoscan from january with the other non original ecu which we had trouble with skc, and the vehicle fan was running all the time with that one,, I think at one time the fan was working as it should? the trouble is we have at this time 7 caddy vans, but i'm sure this one the fan was ok when working on the vehicle, then one day it started to come on a after approx 2-3 seconds once the ignition was turned
    on, Is this replacement Ecu expecting to see A/C , and will it cause any problems. Going to try as you list Clearing the Dtc's one by one and let you know later,

    Code:
    Monday,26,January,2015,14:37:33:46146
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20141022
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ6X099307   License Plate: BF08TVD
    Mileage: 421270km-261765mi   Repair Order: Dave
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 2K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 46 52 56
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ6X099307   Mileage: 421270km-261765miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 021 AQ    HW: 028 101 239 0
       Component: R4 1,9l EDC  000SG  7872  
       Revision: --H03---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F3564352
       Coding: 0000031
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00162
       VCID: 6ED3E282792347518D7-803B
    
    6 Faults Found:
    005746 - Coolant Fan Control 1 
                   P1672 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:19:46
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.46 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11000100
                        Temperature: 14.4°C
                        Duty Cycle: 9.7 %
    
    005716 - Please check DTC Memory of Instrument Cluster 
                   P1654 - 000 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:19:51
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.46 V
                        Temperature: 16.2°C
                        Temperature: 14.4°C
                        Temperature: 14.4°C
    
    005660 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12) 
                   P161C - 000 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 01:01:44
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11000100
                        Temperature: 14.4°C
                        Bin. Bits: 00110000
    
    005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
                   P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 01:01:44
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11000100
                        Temperature: 14.4°C
                        Bin. Bits: 00110000
    
    005712 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1650 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.70 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11000100
                        Torque: 0.0 Nm
                        Torque: 351.4 Nm
    
    005687 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1637 - 000 - Missing Message from Electric Load Controller - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.78 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11000100
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF    HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
       Component: MABS MK70M          0104  
       Revision: 00H32001    
       Coding: 0020801
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00155
       VCID: 76E3CAE201737F91457-8023
    
    4 Faults Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                003 - Mechanical Failure
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000007914299
       Coding: 00884F030004100047000000000000000008FB075C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 6FEDFF867E294E59861-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 121207 021  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 35110  
    
    7 Faults Found:
    02399 - Control Circuit for Terminal 30 for Interior Illumination 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.15 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.75 V
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.75 V
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.75 V
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00059 - Terminal 30 for Interior Lighting 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.10 V
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.75 V
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.85 V
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
       Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH    HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
       Component: 09 AIRBAG VW52  023 2400  
       Revision: 04023000    Serial number: 0037TD0H1Z1K  
       Coding: 0012345
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 7DF1D5CE24452CC904D-8028
    
    6 Faults Found:
    00595 - Crash Data Stored 
                000 -  -  - MIL ON
    01214 - Crash Data for Belt Tensioner Stored 
                000 -  -  - MIL ON
    00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
    00654 - Seat Belt Tensioner Igniter; Driver Side (N153) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
    00655 - Seat Belt Tensioner Igniter; Passenger Side (N154) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent - MIL ON
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BQ    HW: 1K0 953 549 BQ
       Component: J0527           051 0100  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 020BA6325DBB533179F-8057
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 2K0 920 942 E
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4312  
       Coding: 0017401
       Shop #: WSC 00777 067 57207
       VCID: 2C57288A8FBF7541E33-8079
    
    5 Faults Found:
    00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
    00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
    00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
       Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 040108F2001379
       Coding: 89801F020002027401
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 306F3CFAA39711A1DFB-8065
    
    9 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:16:56
    
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 117243 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 03:18:50
    
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 19:20:55
    
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:55:08
    
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 223269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 04:26:27
    
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 290145 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 02:33:14
    
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 98377 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:01
    
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 98377 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:02
    
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 421279 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:36:34
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 2K0 920 942 E
       Component: IMMO            VDD 4312  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2C57288A8FBF7541E33-8079
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 387F04DA4BE7C9E197B-806D
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
       Component:    KSG              0401  
       Coding: 998A0C087F2D8405485A030010C0
       Shop #: WSC 00581 210 71811
       VCID: 000FAC3A53B741216FB-8055
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    7 Faults Found:
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    02483 - Module for Locking of Rear Lid (F327) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    01038 - Central Locking Thermal Protection 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 397901DE70EDD0E9685-806C
    
    6 Faults Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
       Component: Radio BVX       016 0023  
       Coding: 0040400
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 336533F652812AB9A29-8066
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:17)--------------------------
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    Quote Originally Posted by senna1 View Post
    I know it has NO air conditioning, Only a std heater [...] Is this replacement Ecu expecting to see A/C
    Yep. Notice the coding difference between the two?

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    Code:
    00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 79
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 78471 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:05

    Hi,


    There are a number of factors that have an impact on the fan switching, for instance whether the AC is on or the outside air temperature - in addition to the "normal" criterias (return coolant temperature to name one). Since the fans does not start instantly when applying ignition but rather after a few seconds, I would either suspect A/C running (or not present while car expects it to be present) or outside air temperature sensor failure.

    OAT sensor failure is quite common as it's typically installed in the front bumper and a not-so-attentive mechanic might rip it off or forget to plug it back in, if the front bumber is ever removed from the car.

    The fault code I quoted above is present in both vehicle scans posted. I would probably look there, if removing the air condition from the coding does not help. Both influence the fan management.


    Many regards,
    Nicolai

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    Hi Nicolai
    Thanks for your input,, I have another van here which i had a fuel gauge problem with and incidentally this van also has fuel gauge problem lol, The other van had Air temp sensor fault listed as not connect yet as no bumper fitted and that ,has no fan issues, But i will try connecting up the OAT sensor on this van as it may solve my problem, and looking at my pdf Elsawin wiring diagram list several variation of fan operation, i am also going to ask my Vw Dealer if this van should have a radiator fan controller J293. or is it just controlled by temp sensors and ecu.

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