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Hello.

My 2013 a4 b8.5 allroad 177hp wont start.

It stopped suddenly right outside my garage after work. No pre warning.

No dtc using full scan.

I just clicked on various modules and found i cant enter the immobilizer module. Is that normal? I could enter that on my older b6.

I get "no response from controller".
 
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Code:
 Saturday,15,August,2020,14:57:34:52723
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




Chassis Type: 8K-AU48 (8R0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 20 42 44 46 52 53 56 5F 62 69 6D
          72

VIN: WAUZZZ8K7EA044163   Mileage: 192550km-119645miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CGLC)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CGL.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 KD    HW: 03L 906 018 JL
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H25 9977  
   Revision: 45H25---    
   Coding: 32194012243601080000
   Shop #: WSC 50080 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018KD 003004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018JG.rod
   VCID: 76B5E014E84BE28B78F-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K9 907 379 J    HW: 8K9 907 379 J
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0050  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 06954401
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 49CF5BE8C9B5DD73C5D-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 HG    HW: 8K0 907 064 GG
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H13 0641  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 03A24040000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 7CA1F23CD6E7B8DB0EB-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 H    HW: 8K0 959 754 H
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H71 0083
   Serial number: 0813000118394021    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046
   Serial number: 0213000296073008    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Kx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AJ    HW: 8K1 820 043 AJ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0123  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01270820131305
   Coding: 342002E000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D60C8AAFCCBBA23-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
   Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00000671700701
   Coding: 2600C8118074AFC00081400300001D0D0F1C270826090201000008004400030100000020000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
   VCID: 78A9EE2CE2DF94FB6A3-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 B    HW: 8K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: MITSUBA190713  H18 0461
   Serial number: 1307160707935      
   Coding: 004577

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004
   Serial number: 61885311            
   Coding: 025028

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031
   Serial number: 00000000002008131229

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003
   Serial number: 1F5881C6000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 N    HW: 8K0 959 655 N
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H47 0610  
   Serial number: 003KFDB1F2MG  
   Coding: 30524435363030303030554A304C384B3053
   Shop #: WSC 60769 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
   VCID: 48C95EECD23F247BDA3-801C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 6334MSME7D1051066

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 6344MSME7C704951J

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Serial number: 6352QSME42354C4AL

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Serial number: 6362QSME3C35374ET

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 63732SME4A35326E3

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 63832SME4A350658+

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 Q    HW: 8R0 953 568 Q
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H02 0171  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 20130830000638
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4FFB75F037D1F3439B9-801A

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 920 932     HW: 8K0 920 932
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0563  
   Revision: 00500000    Serial number: WWD6A3Y8E    
   Coding: 038D290202010008010000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
   VCID: 6C81C27CA687285B9EB-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P    HW: 8R0 907 468 D
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0056  
   Revision: 1Z110028    Serial number: 2841Z13812003F
   Coding: 80CF07FF00
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4CC162FCC6C7C85BFEB-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041
   Serial number: 0975701103          

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663     HW: 8K0 959 663
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042
   Serial number: 13239000783021200181

1 Fault Found:
03041 - Energy Management Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 192550 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.08.14
                    Time: 17:53:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    10111
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                    Count: 6


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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:. 8K0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 857 511 AD    HW: 8T0 857 511 AD
   Component: FLA           H04 0012  
   Revision: AA001002    
   Coding: 02019164747464545425363E00
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 7CA1F23CD6E7B8DB0EB-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 P
   Component: TSG FA        H02 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000072580620
   Coding: 011C02204000410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4FFB75F037D1F3439B9-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 F    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H38 0507  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0024792797
   Coding: 100000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008014
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
   VCID: 34311A1CBEB7B09B86B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 HG    HW: 8K0 907 064 GG
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H13 0641  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0312880856    
   Coding: 0100062820B930408120023680000047
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 7CA1F23CD6E7B8DB0EB-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 P
   Component: TSG BF        H02 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000072593593
   Coding: 011C02204000410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4EC568F430DBFA4B90F-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 M    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H01 0004  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 30000000094551
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 392F2B2899D54DF355D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 056 H    HW: 4G0 035 056
   Component: Radio U STD   H60 0134  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 229H 0D7711075
   Coding: 010003020100000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2615F05478EBD20B08F-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R1 035 652 F    HW: 8R1 035 652
   Component: B-BN-EU       H62 0191  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 148H.0D7653330
   Coding: 01010001000681ED01802B4E000000030000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 36352014A84BA28BB8F-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 604 A    HW: 8T0 919 604 A
   Component: DU6 Basic  H43 0098
   Serial number: 9465H/0D2667413    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611     HW: 8T0 919 611
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H01 0100
   Serial number: 00000001597288      

1 Fault Found:
03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 192550 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.08.14
                    Time: 17:53:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.70 V


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HL        H01 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000072215897
   Coding: 010C02204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 46D550D4D8AB320B28F-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 8K0-907-383.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 383 E    HW: 8K0 907 383 E
   Component: Anhaenger     H09 0100  
   Revision: 1A001001    Serial number: 00000194125976
   Coding: 010D000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 25397 000 00000
   VCID: 36352014A84BA28BB8F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: 8K9-827-851.clb
   Part No SW: 8K9 827 851 A    HW: 8K9 827 851 A
   Component: J605  Master  H52 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8K9827851A    
   VCID: 3C21323C966778DB4EB-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K9 827 852 A    HW: 8K9 827 852 A
   Component: J756  Slave  H52 0330
   Serial number: 8K9827852A          

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HR        H01 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000072215895
   Coding: 010C02204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 46D550D4D8AB320B28F-8012

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:32, VBatt start/end: 12.7V/12.7V)-----------

The energy management came now after trying to start, charging battery now.
 
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Did you check battery connections and ground strap + alternator output?
 
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It did not have the energy management code yesterday. It came today after trying to start many times.

I found in another forum that on the b8 the immo is in other modules. Not as a separate immo module
 
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The immobilizer is built into the J393. So the immobilizer component responds on address 05 and the comfort/convenience component (BCM2) responds on address 46. Do you have a response on address 46? The fuses to the J393 are all in the right side of the cargo hold, in row 2, fuses 8, 10, and 11.


This is from audizine
 
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This is from audizine

Is this a mechanical issue and did you do basics like compression check or read RTFB yet?

Is your car modified?

Did you read your auto-scan?

Did you JPPSG yet?
https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 HG HW: 8K0 907 064 GG
Component: BCM2 2.0 H13 0641
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 03A24040000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 7CA1F23CD6E7B8DB0EB-8028

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 H HW: 8K0 959 754 H
Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H71 0083
Serial number: 0813000118394021

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E HW: 8K0 905 852 E
Component: J764 ELV MLB H40 0046
Serial number: 0213000296073008

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 HG HW: 8K0 907 064 GG
Component: BCM2 2.0 H13 0641
Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0312880856
Coding: 0100062820B930408120023680000047
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 7CA1F23CD6E7B8DB0EB-8028

No fault code found.
 
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