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    Redirect Fail!

    I'm working on a 2003 A4 1.8 AMB and getting the Redir Fail! for the engine controller. I believe the car is completely stock so this doesn't make any sense to me. Pretty sure the label file that should be loading is 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl. I did verify that this file is present in the label directory of the program. Thank you.

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    VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
    Tuesday, 24 February 2015, 08:18:14:52250
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6
    Scan: 01,02,03,08,09,0F,11,15,16,17,18,36,37,45,46,55,56,57,65,67,69,75,76,77
     
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    Address 01: Engine       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Controller: 8E0 909 518 AF
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0002
       Coding: 0016501
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 749B93C957A3
    1 Fault Found:
    16804 -  Catalyst System; Bank 1: Efficiency Below Threshold
                P0420 - 002 -  Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 8E0-614-517.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 614 517 G
       Component: ABS/ESP front       2328
       Coding: 04275
       Shop #: WSC 06435
       VCID: 2C2B4BA9CF13
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC       Labels: 8E0-820-043.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 820 043 AC
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1219
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 62B7E591FD57
    3 Faults Found:
    01841 -  Potentiometer/Actuator for Temperature Flap; Left (G220)
                30-10 -  Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    01274 -  Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
                41-00 -  Blocked or No Voltage
    01794 -  Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
                35-00 -   -
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.       Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 907 279 E
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0305
       Coding: 00013
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 341B53C91723
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags       Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 959 655 C
       Component: Airbag 8.4EP        2000
       Coding: 0010607
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 370164C50655
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel       Labels: 8E0-953-549.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 953 549 L
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0308
       Coding: 00041
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 3C0B7BE93F73
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 920 950 L
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D35
       Coding: 02200
       Shop #: WSC 19506
       VCID: 321755D1ED37
       WAUJC68E33A211722     AUZ6Z0B0269715
    2 Faults Found:
    00562 -  Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
                27-10 -  Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01304 -  Radio
                49-00 -  No Communications
    
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    Address 45: Inter. Monitor       Labels: 8E0-951-177.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 951 177 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.   0604
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00000
       VCID: EBA908B58A9D
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.       Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.LBL
       Controller: 8E0 959 433 BB
       Component: Komfortgerát T7B    1311
       Coding: 11788
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 729795D12DB7
    4 Faults Found:
    01370 -  Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
                35-00 -   -
    00962 -  Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
                35-00 -   -
    01374 -  Alarm triggered by Terminal 15
                35-00 -   -
    01371 -  Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side
                35-00 -   -
    
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    Address 55: Xenon Range       Labels: 4Z7-907-357.LBL
       Controller: 4Z7 907 357 
       Component: dynamische LWR       D08
       Coding: 00060
       Shop #: WSC 63351
       VCID: 047BC3090703
    No fault code found.
    
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    Last edited by Uwe; 02-24-2015 at 07:37 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Weird. It a cursory look a the VCDS-Lite Label folder also makes me think it should load 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl for your ECU. 8E-01.lbl tells it to and the file does exist.

    Try renaming 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl to 8E0-909-518-AF.lbl and let us know what happens.

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    That worked. It loaded the new label file and the measuring blocks now have correct labels. Thank you.

    After noticing that the other controllers had label files that matched the controller numbers exactly, I wondered if renaming that file to the engine controller would work, but I don't have a great deal of experience with the program so I was chicken to try it.

    Thanks again.

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    I believe this bug was fixed in newer versions, likely not for VCDS-Lite though. From my vague recollection it boils down to the redirected file name to be too long.
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    Having the same issue with a different engine. Have a TDI, the controller where the redirect fails is "038 906 012 GN"

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    Well, the work-around for that is easy enough: Just rename the relevant file to your ECM's exact part number. In other words 038-906-012-AGR.LBL becomes 038-906-012-GN.LBL

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    Last edited by Uwe; 03-29-2015 at 02:16 PM. Reason: typo
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Thank you. Works perfect!

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    ok, so I am now confused, different car, but the same Redirect Fail - any hints as to what to do?

    I licensed VCDS Lite so I could look at the data for my daughter's Audi TT Quattro, 2001. When I try to use the measuring blocks capability, I get Label File: Redir Fail, as shown below. please see captured autoscan fragment below. What am I doing wrong? without labels, the software guesses at measuring blocks, but that doesn't really help much, I just want to look at the two lambda sensors and verify that the cat is bad, or something else is bad - and I can't find any info on which block is which sensor.

    Any hints? ideas?? is there a file for the TT Quattro somewhere that would help me?


    Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
    Controller: 8N0 906 018 T
    Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0003
    Coding: 06610
    Shop #: WSC 01236
    VCID: 42F71E775D97
    1 Fault Found:
    16806 - Main Catalyst; Bank 1: Efficiency Below Threshold
    P0422 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0010 0000

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    Hmm... Looks like the correct file for that engine is 06A-906-032-AMU.lbl. What's puzzling is that the an appropriate redirect exists in 8N-01.lbl.

    Try renaming 06A-906-032-AMU.lbl to 8N0-906-018-T.lbl.

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    ok, I made a copy of the file and named it as you suggested. I'll have to wait until my daughter brings her car over again to find out if it works or not. meanwhile, how did you know what file was supposed to go with that specific car? and would one draw any inference from my controller ID being so different - I know the controller has not been changed since she's owned the car (e.g. since 2004 or so) and I doubt it was changed early in its life.

    Thanks - sometimes I feel like I'm stuck in a Grateful Dead song .... "what a long strange trip it's been".

    I guess, if the LBL file is correct, I'll want to look at blocks 41, 43, and 46.

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