2013 Volkswagen CC - Brake Alarm Comes on When Driving - Brakes Pulsate When Braking

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My car starting having a weird braking issue. When I'm going down the road, an alarm sounds and the brake light comes on. When I attempt to start, the brakes make a hydraulic sound and pulsates. The brakes continue to with the same issue until the car is turned off. Once the car is turned off and back on, it apparently resets something. Sometimes it will go a mile before it does it again, sometimes ten miles. There are a multitude of other lights on the dash so I suspect it is a sensor/module. I've replaced the hubs and rear abs sensors so don't believe it's either of those. I've scanned it with a Ross-Tech scanner but it just shows fault codes, doesn't really narrow down the issue.

Here's the scan results:

Code:
Chassis Type: AN-VW46 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 4F 52 53 55 56
62 65 72

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CBF) Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
Part No SW: 06J 997 029 J HW: 06J 907 309 B
Component: MED17.5.2 TFSI 2 1514
Revision: PAH04--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 040401081C070160
Shop #: WSC 44516 001 1048576
VCID: 3E2539DA2C761747FB9-806A

1 Fault Found:
053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes
U1017 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 72.0°C
Temperature: 62.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 12.446 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 058 N HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 512 3522
Revision: 05551213 Serial number: 00001202151024
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2517F6B6A9E0A49F9A3-8070

1 Fault Found:
18255 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1847 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 73
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 152173 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.08.05
Time: 04:27:06


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 AF HW: 3AA 614 109 AF
Component: J104 C2 450M V44E 0023
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: 00000005418725
Coding: 0004495
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 71BFD2E62DA8B83F36B-8024

2 Faults Found:
03841 - RPM Sensor Rear Left: Incorrect Signal
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 135979 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.10.30
Time: 06:14:23

Freeze Frame:
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Hex Value: 0x0000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Voltage: 12.00 V
Bin. Bits: 00011111
Count: 156
Hex Value: 0x0000

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 41
Mileage: 151795 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.31
Time: 06:29:56

Freeze Frame:
Speed: 118.0 km/h
Hex Value: 0x0001
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Voltage: 13.75 V
Bin. Bits: 00011111
Count: 27
Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 J HW: 3AA 907 044 J
Component: Climatronic H03 0101
Revision: 00001K01
Coding: 0010001008
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW46.rod
VCID: 372B2CFE0FCC260F38F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 3AA-937-087.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 J HW: 3AA 937 087 J
Component: BCM PQ47 H++ 421 0465
Revision: BD421001
Coding: 0008000000000000008802819400894C6155000F40200D20E4 84402400C0
Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
VCID: 41DF4226518868BF86B-8014

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 955 119 F HW: 3C8 955 119 F Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: WWS464 300112 010 0604
Serial number: 300112
Coding: 00B795

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7N0 955 559 HW: 7N0 955 559 Labels: 7N0-955-559.CLB
Component: RLFS 021 0024
Serial number: Y12M02D27h07m24s05S1
Coding: 0280DD

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 T HW: 5N0 959 655 T
Component: J234__717 VW10 HI 2118
Revision: 24017000 Serial number: 003LDP37X2L%
Coding: 0012599
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 4EC5691A9CD687C70B9-801A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C8 959 339 A
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 003 0001

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000004HQG

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0024.01.120000300000650008ÿ†63

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 650008ÿ†6332MTS658080362 ÿ†63

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 80362 ÿ†6342MTS645180372 ÿ†63

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 80372 ÿ†6351HTS6JN7QV9KR ÿ†63

Subsystem 7 - Serial number: QV9KR ÿ†6361HTS6K9HSMAKR ÿ†63

Subsystem 8 - Serial number: SMAKR ÿ†63727TS6L5B20AKJ ÿ†63

Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 20AKJ ÿ†63827TS6PRVVV9KR ÿ

Subsystem 10 - Serial number: VV9KR ÿ

1 Fault Found:
03551 - Functional Restriction of Seat Occupied Recognition
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 135979 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.10.30
Time: 06:14:39


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 AS HW: 5K0 953 569 AS
Component: LENKS.MODUL 016 0180
Revision: --X01--- Serial number: 20150904100851
Coding: 198A270000
Shop #: WSC 62952 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
VCID: 094F9A0629B8E0FF9EB-805C

Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D HW: 3C8 959 537 D Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TK6 H06 0022
Serial number: 50000000000000527738
Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 3C8 920 970 T HW: 3C8 920 970 T
Component: KOMBI H04 0609
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 240F00
Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 3D273ED62DF00C5FE23-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H41 1623
Revision: H41 Serial number: 190212F2003000
Coding: 469006
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 3E2539DA20761747FB9-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 A HW: 3AA 959 433 A
Component: IMMO 042 0400
Revision: 00042000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 372B2CFE034C260F38F-8062

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
Component: ELV 029 0380
3C0905861J ELV 029 0380

1 Fault Found:
02823 - Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 43
Mileage: 151812 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.07.31
Time: 18:18:21


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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E HW: 5N0 035 342 E
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7661961837
Coding: 020000
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 290FFA86C9F880FFBEB-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 B HW: 1K0 035 274 B
Component: RNS315-NAR H35 0265
Serial number: VWZAZ2M4201622
Coding: 0400040104000F000001100A
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS A01004
ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS_VW46.rod
VCID: 2313E8AEAB545AAFF47-8076

Data medium:
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
Component: NAR_V2 0002

2 Faults Found:
1048669 - Tuner for Satellite Radio
B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 109
Mileage: 135979 km
Date: 2019.06.09
Time: 06:14:23

1048642 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error
B2000 42 [009] - General memory failure
[ECU defect data memory failure]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 124723 km
Date: 2018.05.09
Time: 17:34:05


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 959 701 HW: 3C0 959 793 C
Component: TUER-SG FT 002 0551
Revision: 12110009 Serial number: 0004482315
Coding: 0004B7
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
VCID: 6D87CE963D105CDF123-8038

Slave Driver:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 D HW: 3C8 959 795 Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J388__TSG-HL 004 0501
Serial number: 00000002764397
Coding: 010490

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 M HW: 5N1 909 148 G
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.302 1002
Revision: 1AH03734 Serial number: 00120480090201
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3C2133D23A6A0557D5D-8068

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 135979 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.10.30
Time: 06:14:20

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 4.0
Voltage: 12.00 V


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 A HW: 3AA 959 433 A
Component: KSG PQ47 ELV 042 0634
Revision: 00042000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 1A910F8001862E7612041F1FF08A0F0C105801
Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
VCID: 372B2CFE034C260F38F-8062

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted

Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520) Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 532 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: EZE_2 H41 1623
Revision: H41 Serial number: 190212F2003000
Coding: 00000008
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 6FBBD49E379CAECF20F-803A

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 919 204 A HW: 3C8 919 204 A
Component: Analoguhr 005 0003

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 959 702 HW: 3C0 959 792 C
Component: TUER-SG BT 002 0551
Revision: 14110009 Serial number: 0004490667
Coding: 0004B6
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
VCID: 6E85C99A3016A7C72B9-803A

Slave Passenger:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 D HW: 3C8 959 794 Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J389__TSG-HR 004 0501
Serial number: 00000002768198
Coding: 010490

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H HW: 3AA 907 801 H
Component: J540 EPB4 VW-86594 0010
Revision: H19 Serial number: 00000000004970
Coding: 0022156
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 363521FA0446DF07239-8062

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 129723 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.04.09
Time: 20:03:25

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.10 V
Count: 105
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Hex Value: 0x1260
Hex Value: 0x0001
Hex Value: 0x0101


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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745) Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F HW: 7L6 907 357 C
Component: AFS-ECU H04 0111
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 071200010B000400
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW46.rod
VCID: 372B2CFE0FCC260F38F-8062

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 HW: 1T0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo links H06 0007
Coding: 350000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 HW: 1T0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo rechts H06 0007
Coding: 350000

2 Faults Found:
13705985 - Databus
U1123 00 [137] - Received Error Message
[Fehlerwert im Signal BR3_Rad_kmh_HL]
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 135979 km
Date: 2019.06.09
Time: 06:14:15

13705987 - Databus
U1123 00 [137] - Received Error Message
[Fehlerwert im Signal BR3_Rad_kmh_HR]
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 99
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 151795 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 06:29:55


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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 D HW: 3AA 907 273 D
Component: RDKBERU30 H09 0010
Serial number: 10000000100303
ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 003012
ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_003.rod
VCID: 353726F615C0D41F2A3-8060

No fault code found.
 
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Based on the fault codes in the ABS module, the first think I would do is observe (and quite possibly log) the four wheel speeds in the ABS while driving slowly.

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Based on the fault codes in the ABS module, the first think I would do is observe (and quite possibly log) the four wheel speeds in the ABS while driving slowly.

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Thank you for the reply Uwe. Would that be an attempt to determine if it is the speed sensors or the module? If the module is bad, wouldn't that present itself by showing erroneous data to the sensors?
 
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Thank you for the reply Uwe. Would that be an attempt to determine if it is the speed sensors or the module? If the module is bad, wouldn't that present itself by showing erroneous data to the sensors?
But if the module is OK and some sensors are OK then you'll know which sensors need changing.
 
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Right, you are looking to rule out the module itself, wiring, WSS and wheel bearing since that's the pick-up for the WSS.

After evaluating the logged data from the sensors, and providing the RR is actually implausible, we would normally recommend swapping the wiring at the module (so the left and right rear are mirrored) but you have faults for both rears. That complicates things.

Since 03841 - RPM Sensor Rear Left: Incorrect Signal is most common when the wrong replacement WSS sensor part number is installed I would look for any signs of prior work in that area. I can't look up the part numbers very easily in the parts catalog without the VIN but there are often 4 possible sensors which are specific to VIN splits, FWD/AWD in addition to the installed park assist system. If the incorrect left rear sensor is installed that may directly explain Fault Frequency: 254.
 
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Great information everyone, I really appreciate it. Can someone point me to the Wiki that would help me understand how to monitor the sensors while driving slowly? I found where it is not recommended (but if I'm going to do it make sure I have a second person with the laptop in the back seat), but couldn't find the procedure to actually monitor the sensors dynamically.
 
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Okay, ran live scan on measuring block. Here are the results:



Address 03: ABS Brakes (3AA 614 109 AF)

19:40:30 Group 001: Current Wheel Speed
6.0 km/h Speed Sensor Front Left (G47)
7.0 km/h Speed Sensor Front Right (G45)
0.0 km/h Speed Sensor Rear Left (G46)
6.0 km/h Speed Sensor Rear Right (G44)

19:40:30 Group 002
1 Bin. Bits
N/A
N/A
N/A

19:40:30 Group 003: Switches and Warning Lights
10 Clutch (F36) & Interlock (N110)
Brake WarnL off Brake System Warning L. (K118)
ABS WarnL on ABS Warning L. (K47)
ASR/ESP WL on ASR/ESP Warning L. (K155)

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If I'm reading the scan correctly, it would appear it is the driver's rear sensor. I'm not sure why it showed both rear sensors. I replaced the driver's sensor but it apparently was a knock-off. Where's a good place to get the sensor?
 
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If I'm reading the scan correctly, it would appear it is the driver's rear sensor. I'm not sure why it showed both rear sensors. I replaced the driver's sensor but it apparently was a knock-off. Where's a good place to get the sensor?
Any VW dealer - it looks like the part you have may be a CRAP (Chinese Replacement Auto Part) one.
 
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