Hi so i bought a 2012 jetta with a no start issue with the assumption that this was something i could potentially fix myself, I'm not a mechanic by any means but for $600 it was worth purchasing.
When the car does start everything operates as it should however when it doesn't start the epc light and check engine light are illuminated and intermittently flickering.
I bought the hex-v2 to get an honest look into the problem and it seems to be leaning towards the immobilizer as their is a sporadic communication error from it and the cluster has an intermittent no communication error as well.
Through browsing the ross-tech wiki I am leaning towards the key being the potential issue but then again i am no expert and so I am hoping that someone here could be able to point me in the right direction!
I have 2 scans, one is of the vehicle running and the other is with the no-start condition present.
No-Start Condition
Running
When the car does start everything operates as it should however when it doesn't start the epc light and check engine light are illuminated and intermittently flickering.
I bought the hex-v2 to get an honest look into the problem and it seems to be leaning towards the immobilizer as their is a sporadic communication error from it and the cluster has an intermittent no communication error as well.
Through browsing the ross-tech wiki I am leaning towards the key being the potential issue but then again i am no expert and so I am hoping that someone here could be able to point me in the right direction!
I have 2 scans, one is of the vehicle running and the other is with the no-start condition present.
No-Start Condition
Code:
Tuesday,21,July,2020,09:15:09:30340
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 3VWBX7AJ8CM354416 License Plate:
Mileage: 307450km-191040mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 56
VIN: 3VWBX7AJ8CM354416 Mileage: 307450km-191040miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 1010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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Address 01: Engine (CBT) Labels: 07K-906-055-CBT.clb
Part No SW: 07K 906 055 HW: 07K 906 055
Component: 2,5l R5/4V G01 9532
Revision: T4H06--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 6B83C3A9EF829813969-803E
1 Fault Found:
001674 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit
P068A - 000 - Opens Too Early - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 16.0°C
Temperature: 17.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 900.0 mbar
Readiness: 1110 0101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0121
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: B14B440C492708FE8D0F22E5921F1061210000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 7BA3F3E993E20893069-802E
4 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 28672
Count: 8208
Count: 38656
Count: 0
Count: 511
Count: 0
03391 - Coding Not Possible
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 28672
Count: 8254
Count: 43520
Count: 0
Count: 254
Count: 0
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 28672
Count: 8211
Count: 43520
Count: 0
Count: 254
Count: 0
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 307457 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.12.04
Time: 00:01:11
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 2
Count: 29184
Count: 129
Count: 50432
Count: 0
Count: 256
Count: 0
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 AQ HW: 5C0 820 047 AQ
Component: J301 Klimaanlage 0203
Revision: 2001010S Serial number: 00000000670895
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 6FBBD7B9DB9A6433BA1-803A
1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 21
Mileage: 307456 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.09.21
Time: 19:20:32
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 937 086 E HW: 5C0 937 086 A
Component: BCM25 JLB M3 H67 0251
Revision: B0067001 Serial number: 04351323110278
Coding: 73994B1808230F0000302000240884C400C2502E60000000300000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E050ABD10102D3BF17-807A
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 M HW: 6R0 959 801 M Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 820000
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 P HW: 6R0 959 802 P Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 820000
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D HW: 6R0 959 811 D
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 800000
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D HW: 6R0 959 812 D
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 800000
3 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 20
Time Indication: 0
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 20
Time Indication: 0
00538 - Reference Voltage
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 20
Time Indication: 0
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 E HW: 5C0 959 655 E
Component: AirbagVW10G 014 0808
Serial number: 003GTM02UJME
Coding: 00003936
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01023
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
VCID: 343118D5FEBC07EB873-8060
Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 HW: 5C6 959 339
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H10 0027
Serial number: 6940000Y11000094KY0-
Coding: 303255
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME162C6665ZZZ.
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME0E763364ZZZ.
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3516KSME73246A14ZZZQ
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3526KSME084F5B14ZZZ
Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Fahr H02 ----
Serial number: 3556LSME3C4C6A10ZZZ%
Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Beif H02 ----
Serial number: 3566LSME41596A10ZZZV
2 Faults Found:
12670208 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster
U0155 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 21
Mileage: 307456 km
Date: 2020.04.30
Time: 19:20:31
12674816 - Immobilizer Control Module
U0167 00 [008] - No Communications
[Lost Comminication with Immobilizer]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 21
Mileage: 307456 km
Date: 2020.04.30
Time: 19:20:31
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 5C6 920 851 B HW: 5C6 920 851 B
Component: KOMBI H04 0604
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 370200
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00122
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 290FF9A1297E4A03245-807C
1 Fault Found:
10485833 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error
B2000 49 [137] - Internal electronic failure
[Steuergerät defekt (SiWaLa)]
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 33711 km
Date: 2014.09.03
Time: 02:06:47
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 5C0 937 086 A
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H67 0251
Revision: B0067001
Coding: 102200
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 70B9D4C5CAA47BCBA3B-8024
3 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 20
Time Indication: 0
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 307456 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.09.20
Time: 03:29:51
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 20
Time Indication: 0
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0604
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
VCID: 6A8DC6ADECF8811BEDF-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:08, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.3V)-----------Running
Code:
Tuesday,21,July,2020,20:13:29:30340
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 3VWBX7AJ8CM354416 License Plate: RUNNING
Mileage: 307470km-191053mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 56
VIN: 3VWBX7AJ8CM354416 Mileage: 307470km-191053miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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Address 01: Engine (CBT) Labels: 07K-906-055-CBT.clb
Part No SW: 07K 906 055 HW: 07K 906 055
Component: 2,5l R5/4V G01 9532
Revision: T4H06--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 6B83C3A9EF829813969-803E
4 Faults Found:
001674 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit
P068A - 000 - Opens Too Early - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 16.0°C
Temperature: 17.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 900.0 mbar
000262 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96)
P0106 - 000 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 307461 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.12.11
Time: 18:49:44
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 651 /min
Load: 19.2 %
Speed: 35.0 km/h
Temperature: 83.0°C
Temperature: 46.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 900.0 mbar
006469 - Control Module 1 for Cooling Fan
P1945 - 000 - Output Short Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 307472 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.12.11
Time: 19:43:12
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 765 /min
Load: 16.9 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 93.0°C
Temperature: 51.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 900.0 mbar
006480 - Radiator Fan (V7)
P1950 - 000 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 307474 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.12.11
Time: 19:50:29
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 996 /min
Load: 21.2 %
Speed: 42.0 km/h
Temperature: 90.0°C
Temperature: 54.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 900.0 mbar
Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0121
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: B14B440C492708FE8D0F22E5921F1061210000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 7BA3F3E993E20893069-802E
1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 307475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.12.12
Time: 04:08:10
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 2
Count: 12288
Count: 8193
Count: 44800
Count: 256
Count: 0
Count: 0
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 AQ HW: 5C0 820 047 AQ
Component: J301 Klimaanlage 0203
Revision: 2001010S Serial number: 00000000670895
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 6FBBD7B9DB9A6433BA1-803A
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 937 086 E HW: 5C0 937 086 A
Component: BCM25 JLB M3 H67 0251
Revision: B0067001 Serial number: 04351323110278
Coding: 73994B1808230F0000302000240884C400C2502E60000000300000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E050ABD10102D3BF17-807A
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 M HW: 6R0 959 801 M Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 820000
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 P HW: 6R0 959 802 P Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 820000
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D HW: 6R0 959 811 D
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 800000
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D HW: 6R0 959 812 D
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3464
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 800000
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 E HW: 5C0 959 655 E
Component: AirbagVW10G 014 0808
Serial number: 003GTM02UJME
Coding: 00003936
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01023
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
VCID: 343118D5FEBC07EB873-8060
Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 HW: 5C6 959 339
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H10 0027
Serial number: 6940000Y11000094KY0-
Coding: 303255
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME162C6665ZZZ.
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME0E763364ZZZ.
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3516KSME73246A14ZZZQ
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3526KSME084F5B14ZZZ
Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Fahr H02 ----
Serial number: 3556LSME3C4C6A10ZZZ%
Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Beif H02 ----
Serial number: 3566LSME41596A10ZZZV
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 5C6 920 851 B HW: 5C6 920 851 B
Component: KOMBI H04 0604
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 370200
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00122
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 290FF9A1297E4A03245-807C
1 Fault Found:
10485833 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error
B2000 49 [137] - Internal electronic failure
[Steuergerät defekt (SiWaLa)]
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 33711 km
Date: 2014.09.02
Time: 02:06:47
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 5C0 937 086 A
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H67 0251
Revision: B0067001
Coding: 102200
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 70B9D4C5CAA47BCBA3B-8024
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 307475 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.12.11
Time: 23:43:28
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0604
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
VCID: 6A8DC6ADECF8811BEDF-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:07, VBatt start/end: 14.0V/14.0V)-----------
