2015 VW Jetta CPA 1.8 Tsi Cold Start Misfire.

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Hello,

Everybody new here. Got a 2015 VW Jetta CPA 1.8 Tsi with 115,xxx Miles with Cold Start Misfire. After about a min on the car start going in to a sporadic rpm bump sound like it got a HP Cam. I figured it was carbon build up so I went ahead a did a walnut blast on the valves. After all the valves and intake manifold was completely clean restarted the car and I still have the same problem. I get nothing but misfire codes. I went ahead and checked Measure Values Camshaft Adjustment and the Actual value is really sporadic jumping from 1.4-63.1 during the misfire and my phase position is at a positive of 2.6 degrees and it just stays there no change. Thing is when this happens I unplug the Camshaft Adjuster N205 and the problem goes away. I am stumped at the moment. I see the phase position is in a positive number any input or advise would be much appreciated. I have posted the pictures of the screen shots.

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Thanks for the post. We really need to see an Autoscan from the car to assist. Please post one.
 
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Would also be interesting to see long term fuel trim values after an extended test drive.
 
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Thanks for the post. We really need to see an Autoscan from the car to assist. Please post one.

Here is the AutoScan done

Code:
Wednesday,15,July,2020,15:50:11:09571
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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VIN: 3VWD17AJ9FM285220   License Plate: 2015JETTA
Mileage: 186290km-115755mi   Repair Order: 0001


Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 44 56 77

VIN: 3VWD17AJ9FM285220   Mileage: 186290km-115755miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPRA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 06K 997 071 C    HW: 06K 907 425 C
   Component: R4 1.8l TFS   H13 2977  
   Revision: --H13---    
   Coding: 001A0012242400175000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00147
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K997071C 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K997071C.rod
   VCID: 35619C9A9464152EE8-8060

6 Faults Found:
17178 - Implausible Data Received from ESP Control Module 
          U0416 00 [039] - -
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.15
                    Time: 20:11:29

                    Engine speed: 1195.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 8.2 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 57 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.847 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite EPB deceleration: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although TSK passive: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off or stop request at stopping speed not set: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off and stop request sent simultaneously: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although limiter active: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC reactivates itself after locking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC sends undefined signals: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active although main switch off: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite driver braking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite ESP/ASR passive sampling: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor not available: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system malfunction due to inaccurate engine torque: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP indicates TSK message consistency error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-TSK/ESP handshake error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP automatic engagement malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Brake light implausible: No

15125 - Cylinder 1 
          P0301 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.15
                    Time: 20:11:29

                    Engine speed: 1210.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 22.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 57 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.042 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: 0.000 %
                    Time since engine start: 72.0 s
                    Engine: operating status: IS

15131 - Cylinder 3 
          P0303 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.15
                    Time: 20:11:29

                    Engine speed: 1210.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 22.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 57 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.042 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: 0.000 %
                    Time since engine start: 72.0 s
                    Engine: operating status: IS

15134 - Cylinder 4 
          P0304 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.15
                    Time: 20:11:29

                    Engine speed: 1210.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 22.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 57 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.042 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: 0.000 %
                    Time since engine start: 72.0 s
                    Engine: operating status: IS

15128 - Cylinder 2 
          P0302 00 [039] - Misfire Detected
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.15
                    Time: 20:11:29

                    Engine speed: 1210.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 22.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 57 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.042 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: 0.000 %
                    Time since engine start: 72.0 s
                    Engine: operating status: IS

15137 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
          P0300 00 [039] - -
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.15
                    Time: 20:11:29

                    Engine speed: 1210.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 22.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 57 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.042 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: 0.000 %
                    Time since engine start: 72.0 s
                    Engine: operating status: IS

Readiness: 1010 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:* 09G-927-749-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 749 A    HW: 09G 927 749 A
   Component: AISIN AG6 G3  109 2856  
   Coding: 000348
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 001004
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_001_VW32.rod
   VCID: 377D96928E68E73EFA-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BS    HW: 1K0 907 379 BS
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0166  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: A14B400C492A00FF850D02E692190041A1100012
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 0407315E873E7CA62F-8050

3 Faults Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.07.11
                    Time: 00:00:19

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 20480
                    Count: 16390
                    Count: 42496
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 509
                    Count: 0

02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 33
                    Mileage: 186277 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.06.27
                    Time: 22:24:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 29184
                    Count: 16401
                    Count: 50176
                    Count: 62976
                    Count: 508
                    Count: 0

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 36
                    Mileage: 186277 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.07.09
                    Time: 23:09:49

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 29184
                    Count: 8196
                    Count: 49408
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 507
                    Count: 0


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0349096159
   Coding: 000F0F
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00147
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 377D96928E68E73EFA-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 CG    HW: 5C0 820 047 CG
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0208  
   Revision: 2001001S    Serial number: 00000002499546
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00016
   VCID: 67DD06D25648B7BEAA-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 E    HW: 7H0 937 090 A
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max3 H78 0725  
   Revision: B8078001    Serial number: 78003352141277
   Coding: 7B994B1808AB0B0000382080240884C50FC6702E60004050B0A010022844
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 306FAD8E63063006BB-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
   Serial number: 14102585141114112858
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
   Serial number: 14102584141106144029
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Serial number: 3171422334702345AD1B
   Coding: 280000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
   Serial number: 14102587141117081815
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
   Serial number: 14202586141111165352
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AB    HW: 5C0 959 655 AB
   Component: AirbagVW10    500 0975  
   Serial number: 003LZD040VG.  
   Coding: 00004B32
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001030
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 72EB6786A58A42160D-8026

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0021 
   Serial number: IBH0000J1400023QC10S
   Coding: 303142

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME34273B4AZZZ.

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME6B560C4AZZZ5

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME2D0E7E30ZZZ%

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME421C7E30ZZZX

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME12167F31ZZZU

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME0B237F31ZZZ.

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 954 B    HW: 5C6 920 954 B
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0806  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 270A01
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00121
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2D51B4FA7C345DEE90-8078

1 Fault Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
          B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 37
                    Mileage: 186291 km
                    Date: 2020.07.14
                    Time: 22:28:03


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H78 0725  
   Revision: B8078001    
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 70EF6D8EA3867006FB-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0806  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00121
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6ADB7FE68D5A8AD6B5-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000318931002
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00121
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW31.rod
   VCID: 306FAD8E6B063006BB-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 305    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 397990AA707CF14E0C-806C

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 11.9 V
                        PD
                    Temperature: 34.0°C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00°
                    Count: 0
                        SteerAng n.Init


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 164 J    HW: 1K0 035 164 J
   Component: LOW NAR SDARS H05 0006  
   Revision: -----09S    Serial number: VWZ4Z6P3864488
   Coding: 01000400010006
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00016
   VCID: 295940EA40DC41CE7C-807C

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 33
                    Mileage: 186277 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.06.27
                    Time: 22:24:34


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 E    HW: 5N0 035 729 E
   Component: TELEFON       H07 0593  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666752337
   Coding: 0A10030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 326BA786650A0216CD-8066

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:53)--------------------------
 
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Fuel trim values? Test drive, rack up some miles, then [OBD-II] - [Mode 1 Read Data], then pull up the Long Term Fuel Trim. Also, sanity check, what is the engine's compression?
 
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Update guys for anybody having this same problem. Found that the the oil control valve that is in the intake cam was bad. Installed a new valve that the problem is gone. The valve showed now wear at all. Looked fine but went ahead and replaced it and BAM fixed.
 
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