Miv GLI stuttering/sever hesitation and lurching

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dont really even know how to describe it,VW, it has stage 2 tune with 2 step and all the works, i am getting codes for multiple cynlider misfire, brand new plugs and coils and its stillhappening, i have a hole in the flex pipe coming off the down pipe, brand new down pipe in the trunk will change tomorow, but when i purchased the car it was running fine and i would only have issues with it when i would clear fault codes, it was spit and sputter and then lurch when it gets power untill the cel would come on and then run fine again, now its doing it all the time even when im not clearing the codes, idk what to do and some guidance and help would be great, tell me what to do and ill do, what to scan and post and ill have it up

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Code:
Tuesday,07,July,2020,08:28:12:07410
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 3VWSE69M14M111062   License Plate: 
Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
          75 76
VIN: 3VWSE69M14M111062   Mileage: 351850km-218629miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 032 RN
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
   Coding: 07510
   Shop #: WSC 33278  
   VCID: 7BA3F2522AF4AFF3069-5184
   3VWSE69M14M111062     VWZ7Z0D9320749
   3VWSE69M14M111062     VWZ7Z0D9320749
4 Faults Found:

16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
            P0300 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
16685 - Cylinder 1 
            P0301 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16687 - Cylinder 3 
            P0303 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16686 - Cylinder 2 
            P0302 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 K
   Component: ASR FRONT MK60      0103  
   Coding: 0018945
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1F76B83EAEBB95F-5184
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003  
   Coding: 12340
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 270BFE2286FCDB13321-5160
2 Faults Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24) 
            32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 
            32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
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   Part No: 1J5 920 926 H
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V55  
   Coding: 15230
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 3431196E472AA08B873-5160
   3VWSE69M14M111062     VWZ7Z0D9320749
   3VWSE69M14M111062     VWZ7Z0D9320749
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 70B9D57E73B2DCABA3B-5160
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications
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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 372B2E62565C4B93A21-4B1E
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  
   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  
2 Faults Found:
01030 - Central Locking Key Switch; Driver Side; Lock 
            29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:25, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
=======================================================
Controller Software Versions:
ECU 1 = Engine        0001
ECU 2 = ABS Brakes        0103
ECU 3 = Airbags        0003
ECU 4 = Instruments        Labels:
ECU 5 = CAN Gateway        0001
ECU 6 = Central Conv.        0003
Sub ECU 6 > 1 = Central Conv.        0202
Sub ECU 6 > 2 = Central Conv.        0202
Sub ECU 6 > 3 = Central Conv.        0202
 
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Holy misfire codes, Batman!

Start with the basics: What do the plugs look like? What kind of shape are the coils in?

Have you fixed the downpipe yet? A leak in the exhaust can screw up the fuel trims pretty good.

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plugs and coils are brand new, the new down pipe will go on tomorow im hoping that fixes it, i have a mkiv golf with a different tune that does the same thing but allot worse and that also has a bad down pipe here is the scan from that

has an obvious boost leak

Code:
Tuesday,14,July,2020,14:54:44:07410
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 3VWSE69M72M014526   License Plate: 
Chassis Type: 9M (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
VIN: 3VWSE69M72M014526   Mileage: 283790km-176338miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 032 HS
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0006  
   Coding: 07500
   Shop #: WSC 33278  
   VCID: 76B5E36611D6F29B797-5184
   9BWDE61J844021289     VWZ7Z0C7083470
   9BWDE61J844021289     VWZ7Z0C7083470
6 Faults Found:

17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!) 
            P1297 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
16711 - Knock Sensor 1 (G61) 
            P0327 - 35-00 - Signal too Low
16955 - Brake Switch (F) 
            P0571 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
17833 - EVAP Purge Valve (N80) 
            P1425 - 35-00 - Short to Ground
16716 - Knock Sensor 2 (G66) 
            P0332 - 35-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
16486 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
            P0102 - 35-00 - Signal too Low
Readiness: 0010 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
   Component: ABS     20 IE CAN  0001  
   Coding: 03504
   Shop #: WSC 01317  
   VCID: 3E253B4679667ADB617-4B3C
2 Faults Found:
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
            35-00 - -
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            35-00 - -
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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
   Component: 09 AIRBAG VW5       0003  
   Coding: 12345
   Shop #: WSC 01317  
   VCID: 3537246A4C50B983B0D-4B3C
2 Faults Found:
01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 
            32-00 - Resistance Too High
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
            32-00 - Resistance Too High
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   Part No: 1J0 920 906 N
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V65  
   Coding: 07234
   Shop #: WSC 06434  
   VCID: 33331A724224A7B39E9-5160
   3VWSE69M72M014526     VWZ7Z0A3850999
   3VWSE69M72M014526     VWZ7Z0A3850999
4 Faults Found:
01177 - Engine Control Unit 
            65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent
01177 - Engine Control Unit 
01177 - Engine Control Unit 
            64-10 - Not Currently Testable - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
            49-00 - No Communications
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 06434  
   VCID: 70B9D57E73B2DCABA3B-5160
2 Faults Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
            49-00 - No Communications
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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 959 799 AJ
   Component: 60 Zentral-SG Komf. 0001  
   Coding: 04096
   Shop #: WSC 01317  
   VCID: 065593A66136E21B697-4B1E
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J1959801C
   Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r  
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J1959802D
   Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r  
   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1J4959811C
   Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r  
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1J4959812C
   Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. HR0002r  
1 Fault Found:
00953 - Interior Light Time limit 
            25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:17, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
=======================================================
Controller Software Versions:
ECU 1 = Engine        0006
ECU 2 = ABS Brakes        0001
ECU 3 = Airbags        0003
ECU 4 = Instruments        Labels:
ECU 5 = CAN Gateway        0001
 
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I see the CAT is always ready & without an error for SAI, LDP, EVAP or OXS sensors further with a busted downpipe, amazing resilience huh? :rolleyes:

At least the knock sensors report!
 
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so do you have anything intelligent to add or is it just going to be allot of eye rolling? all emmissions have been deleted its how i bought the car, so maybe throw a suggestion out or kick rocks
 
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How about flash it to stock or get second stock controller to get better stack insight of DTC's, so doing diagnosis is easier, otherwise all mechanical tests should be commenced?

I like kicking rock's!

Car is FOD modified and this forum section and VCDS are crippled outside of logs when deletes are purported.

Don't you know knowing what is deleted gives you insight as to what systems to go investigate mechanically?


How you fixed for grounds during offset of torque requests?

Compression check done yet?
 
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all emmissions have been deleted its how i bought the car
So you're probably aware that this car cannot be legally operated on a public road in its current state. :confused:

so maybe throw a suggestion out or kick rocks
He did. "Remove FOD". I.e. fix the car properly.

Now I might suggest that you, as someone who just joined this forum, might be out of line, telling an old timer who's been here since the beginning and has almost 20,000 posts to "kick rocks".

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20k......?

That's a lot of questions! :p

OP: Is MAF function deleted too or already unplugged?
 
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