Can 07 R32 Climatronic unit be programmed for 07 EOS?

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Can a 2007 R32 Climatronic unit be programmed for a 2007 EOS? OR is non-compatible? OR is it defective?

The original Clim unit in the EOS was dead, no communication, no A/C, no blower function. Replaced with a "test" unit out of same year EOS but the LCDs are roasted by sun/rain and not viewable nor show any numbers. But it DOES operate as normal otherwise--I just spin the knobs all the way to the left a few rotations and assume it is on "LO". ;) This link will show you what it looks like: debay LINK

Picked up a Clim unit from a 2007 R32 that looked identical with the exception of "OFF" instead of "ON/OFF" and "AC" instead of "ECON". But externally they are identical. It did not have a part number sticker on it nor did the original. Plugged it into the EOS and it powered up and the LCDs, knobs and buttons worked but no air would come out the dash vents even though the fan was working variably as demanded with the knob. Checked module for codes shown below. The full scan following was AFTER I re-installed the "test" unit. The 01320 "no comm" codes cleared out after but were caused by the R32 unit. Noting the part #s, I see they are different... :(

So can the programming in the R32 Clim unit be modded? Or is it non-compatible? Or is it defective?

I took the original dead unit apart to see inside and if maybe I could swap the circuit board from the test unit into the pretty R32 housing but alas, the LCDs are part of the circuit boards. :( Face plates will swap not that I want or need to.

Thank you for your input!

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VIN:    License Plate: EOSAC071120



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Address 08: Auto HVAC       Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 044 BS    HW: 1K0 907 044 BS
   Component and/or Version: ClimatronicPQ35 120 1111
           Software Coding: 
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
                      VCID: 79F9DC1D30234F4E4C-802C
3 Faults Found:

01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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VIN: WVWAA71F37V045539   License Plate: EOS071220
Mileage: 197220km-122546mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1F (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 26 42 44 46 52 56 62 63 65
          72

VIN: WVWAA71F37V045539   Mileage: 197220km-122546miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 907 115 E    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0G23NG7QY
   Coding: 041C010A18070160
   Shop #: WSC 05073 444 60913
   VCID: 2E533F41B9ED58F6A9-807A

1 Fault Found:
005425 - Camshaft Timing Adjustment 
               P1531 - 004 - Open Circuit - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:58:08

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1243 /min
                    Load: 25.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Temperature: 31.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.811 V

Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021218
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 73E5EE35124F351E06-8026

1 Fault Found:
00493 - ESP-Sensor Unit (G419) 
            014 - Defective

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 907 044 A    HW: 1Q0 907 044 A
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 093 0101  
   Revision: 00093002    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5536558AFF2DDE8E-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000006783821
   Coding: 058C8F0340041500470000000F00000000285D035C0001
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 6CD7F5494F71EAE6C7-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 270307 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00020  

4 Faults Found:
00061 - Footwell Lights 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00156 - Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02398 - Control Circuit for Rear Windshield Washer Pump 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
   Component: 74 Airbag VW8C      0180  
   Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3001R4W   
   Coding: 0014132
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B031175A5845605-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332SRB404DD4D2FJ

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342SRB404DA4FADP

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6372URB40203B8993

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6382URB40203B8C53

4 Faults Found:
02511 - Control Module for Seat Occupied Recognition (J706) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:07:58

02756 - Redundant signal path of Airbag cut-off switch - front passenger side (E224) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:08:00

00592 - Seat Belt Switch; Passenger (E25) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:08:00

01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:08:00


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AP    HW: 1K0 953 549 AP
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
   Coding: 0000041
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 000FB1F953F91E860B-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 B    HW: 1Q0 920 973 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G23NG7QY
   Coding: 0023207
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 326B2B31ADD57C16CD-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0170  
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 33001073080C13
   Coding: 3DBF23600F025000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   VCID: 2F6D2245BEE751FEA2-807A

2 Faults Found:
02649 - Digital Radio Tuner 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:08:03

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:56:45


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 919 965     HW: 1Q0 919 965 
   Component: Kompass         002 0001  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 1350208TK85W02
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 79F9DC1D30234F4E4C-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 B    HW: 1Q0 920 973 B
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G23NG7QY
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326B2B31ADD57C16CD-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 G    HW: 1Q0 959 255 G
   Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0860  
   Revision: 0033100R    Serial number: 141210099     
   Coding: 0655360
   Shop #: WSC 55552 001 1048576
   VCID: 3C7705097F91BA6617-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 D    HW: 1Q0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1209  
   Coding: 0001207
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3561102D5CBB6B2EE8-8060

2 Faults Found:
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00131 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Driver Side 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 34672D2957C17226DF-8060

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13900F880186281B0904058FB0880F0488DCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 0407BDE947E102A62F-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 E    HW: 1Q0 959 702 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1215  
   Coding: 0001206
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 377D1A2546B7993EFA-8062

1 Fault Found:
00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
   Component: Radio PM6       017 0023  
   Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7G2141368
   Coding: 0040401
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 2447DD69E721E2A64F-8070

1 Fault Found:
02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 197223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:08:05


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 703 A    HW: 1Q0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1203  
   Coding: 0000128
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 1012544
   VCID: 34672D2957C17226DF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603  
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B031175A5845605-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 0407BDE947E102A62F-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 704 A    HW: 1Q0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1203  
   Coding: 0000128
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 3561102D5CBB6B2EE8-8060

1 Fault Found:
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            014 - Defective

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I don't know if the ECON/AC changeover point tied in, but the earlier climatronic units were designed to run a heater box with two motors to control the recirc flaps (X2). Later units used one motor to control the flaps (x2).

One of these flaps controls the air flow from outside, and one controls the flow from inside the car (recirc)

One of my motors failed, and the outside air flap wouldn't open, so the fan would run, but there was no flow, unless I turned the recirc on. With re-circ off, both flaps stayed closed and blocked all flow.

Your best best is to find a Climatronic panel from an earlier car. I suspect the R32 in the US would have actually been a 2008 model year, hence the change to AC from ECON.

You may be able to frankenstein the units, but the controls and software would probably need to remain from your EOS panel with he faulty LCDs.
 
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I don't know if the ECON/AC changeover point tied in, but the earlier climatronic units were designed to run a heater box with two motors to control the recirc flaps (X2). Later units used one motor to control the flaps (x2).

I believe you are correct, Allan. :) The following is from the 2004 Golf HVAC manual, 04.2015 edition:


"7 - Vehicles through 04/2007 Recirculation Door Motor - V113- , from 05/2007 the Recirculation Door Motor -
V113- is Discontinued...

8 - Vehicles through 04/2007 Air Flow Door Motor - V71- ; from 05/2007 Fresh Air/Recirculating Air/Back Pressure
Door Motor Position Sensor - V425-
"

So you know anyone looking for a Climatronic unit? :D It IS in very nice condition. I'm in FL if you have any US mates looking. It is dated 08.06.07. rev 00120021, mfg 0155

I would still consider reprogramming if possible... PS: thinking about, it may not even have the control circuitry for the old-style "extra" motor... :(
 
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If the test unit was operational otherwise, you can try swapping (desolder-solder) the displays from your old unit to the test unit.
 
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