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    Question Can 07 R32 Climatronic unit be programmed for 07 EOS?

    Can a 2007 R32 Climatronic unit be programmed for a 2007 EOS? OR is non-compatible? OR is it defective?

    The original Clim unit in the EOS was dead, no communication, no A/C, no blower function. Replaced with a "test" unit out of same year EOS but the LCDs are roasted by sun/rain and not viewable nor show any numbers. But it DOES operate as normal otherwise--I just spin the knobs all the way to the left a few rotations and assume it is on "LO". This link will show you what it looks like: debay LINK

    Picked up a Clim unit from a 2007 R32 that looked identical with the exception of "OFF" instead of "ON/OFF" and "AC" instead of "ECON". But externally they are identical. It did not have a part number sticker on it nor did the original. Plugged it into the EOS and it powered up and the LCDs, knobs and buttons worked but no air would come out the dash vents even though the fan was working variably as demanded with the knob. Checked module for codes shown below. The full scan following was AFTER I re-installed the "test" unit. The 01320 "no comm" codes cleared out after but were caused by the R32 unit. Noting the part #s, I see they are different...

    So can the programming in the R32 Clim unit be modded? Or is it non-compatible? Or is it defective?

    I took the original dead unit apart to see inside and if maybe I could swap the circuit board from the test unit into the pretty R32 housing but alas, the LCDs are part of the circuit boards. Face plates will swap not that I want or need to.

    Thank you for your input!

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    Saturday,11,July,2020,17:22:59:64029
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    Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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    VIN:    License Plate: EOSAC071120
    
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC       Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 044 BS    HW: 1K0 907 044 BS
       Component and/or Version: ClimatronicPQ35 120 1111
               Software Coding: 
                Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
                          VCID: 79F9DC1D30234F4E4C-802C
    3 Faults Found:
    
    01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
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    VIN: WVWAA71F37V045539   License Plate: EOS071220
    Mileage: 197220km-122546mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 1F (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 26 42 44 46 52 56 62 63 65
              72
    
    VIN: WVWAA71F37V045539   Mileage: 197220km-122546miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 907 115 E    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
       Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0G23NG7QY
       Coding: 041C010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 05073 444 60913
       VCID: 2E533F41B9ED58F6A9-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    005425 - Camshaft Timing Adjustment 
                   P1531 - 004 - Open Circuit - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 07:58:08
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1243 /min
                        Load: 25.1 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 39.0°C
                        Temperature: 31.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.811 V
    
    Readiness: 0110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0021218
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 73E5EE35124F351E06-8026
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00493 - ESP-Sensor Unit (G419) 
                014 - Defective
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 907 044 A    HW: 1Q0 907 044 A
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 093 0101  
       Revision: 00093002    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B5536558AFF2DDE8E-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
       Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000006783821
       Coding: 058C8F0340041500470000000F00000000285D035C0001
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 6CD7F5494F71EAE6C7-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 270307 020  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 00020  
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00061 - Footwell Lights 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 13.75 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00156 - Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 13.75 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    02398 - Control Circuit for Rear Windshield Washer Pump 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 82
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 13.75 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.75 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
       Component: 74 Airbag VW8C      0180  
       Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3001R4W   
       Coding: 0014132
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3A7B031175A5845605-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332SRB404DD4D2FJ
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342SRB404DA4FADP
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6372URB40203B8993
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6382URB40203B8C53
    
    4 Faults Found:
    02511 - Control Module for Seat Occupied Recognition (J706) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 12
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:07:58
    
    02756 - Redundant signal path of Airbag cut-off switch - front passenger side (E224) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101010
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:08:00
    
    00592 - Seat Belt Switch; Passenger (E25) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101010
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:08:00
    
    01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100001
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:08:00
    
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AP    HW: 1K0 953 549 AP
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
       Coding: 0000041
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 000FB1F953F91E860B-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 B    HW: 1Q0 920 973 B
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G23NG7QY
       Coding: 0023207
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 326B2B31ADD57C16CD-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0170  
       Revision:   H12       Serial number: 33001073080C13
       Coding: 3DBF23600F025000
       Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
       VCID: 2F6D2245BEE751FEA2-807A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02649 - Digital Radio Tuner 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:08:03
    
    01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 06:56:45
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 919 965     HW: 1Q0 919 965 
       Component: Kompass         002 0001  
       Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 1350208TK85W02
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 79F9DC1D30234F4E4C-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 B    HW: 1Q0 920 973 B
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G23NG7QY
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 326B2B31ADD57C16CD-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 G    HW: 1Q0 959 255 G
       Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0860  
       Revision: 0033100R    Serial number: 141210099     
       Coding: 0655360
       Shop #: WSC 55552 001 1048576
       VCID: 3C7705097F91BA6617-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 D    HW: 1Q0 959 701 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1209  
       Coding: 0001207
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3561102D5CBB6B2EE8-8060
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    00131 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Driver Side 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 34672D2957C17226DF-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                000 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 13900F880186281B0904058FB0880F0488DCA0
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 0407BDE947E102A62F-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 E    HW: 1Q0 959 702 E
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1215  
       Coding: 0001206
       Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
       VCID: 377D1A2546B7993EFA-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
       Component: Radio PM6       017 0023  
       Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7G2141368
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 2447DD69E721E2A64F-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 197223 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:08:05
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 703 A    HW: 1Q0 959 703 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1203  
       Coding: 0000128
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 1012544
       VCID: 34672D2957C17226DF-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
       Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603  
       Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3A7B031175A5845605-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    RDK              0450  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0100101
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 0407BDE947E102A62F-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 704 A    HW: 1Q0 959 704 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1203  
       Coding: 0000128
       Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
       VCID: 3561102D5CBB6B2EE8-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
                014 - Defective
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:06)--------------------------
    Family Fleet:
    06 GLI (me)
    04 Jetta 1.8t (dot)
    02 Jetta 2.sl0 (son)
    07 EOS (spare/project)
    all 4-cyl and stickshift...

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    I don't know if the ECON/AC changeover point tied in, but the earlier climatronic units were designed to run a heater box with two motors to control the recirc flaps (X2). Later units used one motor to control the flaps (x2).

    One of these flaps controls the air flow from outside, and one controls the flow from inside the car (recirc)

    One of my motors failed, and the outside air flap wouldn't open, so the fan would run, but there was no flow, unless I turned the recirc on. With re-circ off, both flaps stayed closed and blocked all flow.

    Your best best is to find a Climatronic panel from an earlier car. I suspect the R32 in the US would have actually been a 2008 model year, hence the change to AC from ECON.

    You may be able to frankenstein the units, but the controls and software would probably need to remain from your EOS panel with he faulty LCDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZDubNurd View Post
    I don't know if the ECON/AC changeover point tied in, but the earlier climatronic units were designed to run a heater box with two motors to control the recirc flaps (X2). Later units used one motor to control the flaps (x2).
    I believe you are correct, Allan. The following is from the 2004 Golf HVAC manual, 04.2015 edition:


    "7 - Vehicles through 04/2007 Recirculation Door Motor - V113- , from 05/2007 the Recirculation Door Motor -
    V113- is Discontinued...

    8 - Vehicles through 04/2007 Air Flow Door Motor - V71- ; from 05/2007 Fresh Air/Recirculating Air/Back Pressure
    Door Motor Position Sensor - V425-
    "

    So you know anyone looking for a Climatronic unit? It IS in very nice condition. I'm in FL if you have any US mates looking. It is dated 08.06.07. rev 00120021, mfg 0155

    I would still consider reprogramming if possible... PS: thinking about, it may not even have the control circuitry for the old-style "extra" motor...
    Last edited by bobster; 07-12-2020 at 11:26 PM. Reason: thinking
    Family Fleet:
    06 GLI (me)
    04 Jetta 1.8t (dot)
    02 Jetta 2.sl0 (son)
    07 EOS (spare/project)
    all 4-cyl and stickshift...

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    If the test unit was operational otherwise, you can try swapping (desolder-solder) the displays from your old unit to the test unit.

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