Golf V plus 2008 steering adaptation fault.

motor-magic · Jun 5, 2020

Hi. This the first time we have had to post, so please excuse if we miss anything.
We have 2008 Golf plus with some issues.

The customer explained to us that the battery went flat, called out assistance for jump start and now many errors showing in cluster.
After scanning the vehicle, we thought simple repair carry out steering angle basic settings, stop limit adjustments and brake system function test and job done.
How wrong were we.
We have never experienced any problem with carrying out the necessary repairs before. Tried several attempts, but to no avail. Explained to customer that something could have been damaged/spiked due to jump start.
So they decided with advice from us to start replacing parts.
We bought new genuine angle sensor, replaced steering column module,ABS module and Yaw rate sensor with good known parts still could not carry out basic settings.
We then decided to replace steering rack,carry out alignment and then attempt the basic settings.
Problem still exits.

Hope someone has come up against this before and can help us out ? PLEASE.

Code:

VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Autostop Car Care Centre Ltd

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W567502   License Plate: KW08 HBO
Mileage: 262650km-163203mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W567502   Mileage: 262650km-163203miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 QA    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG  1139  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H03N98EU
   Coding: 0000078
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 6ED3180A79FFE23F45-803A

2 Faults Found:
005658 - Glowplug for Cylinder 1 (Q10) 
               P161A - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 262647 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 10:45:20

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 945 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101011
                    Temperature: 6.3°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
               P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 262647 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 10:45:20

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 945 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101011
                    Temperature: 6.3°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 050 F    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         081 1404  
   Revision: 04708010    Serial number: 00000712130595
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 152117E63CE971E764-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 73E5097E12DDCFD7AA-8026

4 Faults Found:
01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 - -

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HB    HW: 1K0 820 047 HB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   141 1010  
   Revision: 00141028    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6BD5111E4AED171762-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000005368002
   Coding: E5890F2700041800470A00000F00000000085D035C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 71E9037668C1FDC758-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5M0 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 111207 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AC  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     141207 047  0204  
   Coding: 06500389
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 1K AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD1PYHLI  
   Coding: 0012619
   Shop #: WSC 01373 785 00200
   VCID: 3D71EF46641949A78C-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME377257046

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2C2430465

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME1279130C2

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME12625145.

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
   Component: J0527           051 0100  
   Coding: 0010042
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 77FD3D6E06A5A3F796-8022

4 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 964 B    HW: 1K0 920 964 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H03N98EU
   Coding: 0003403
   Shop #: WSC 00687 210 105878
   VCID: 2C57D2028F63D02F2B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 171207F2000966
   Coding: ED807F060002029003
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 306FC672A34BB4CF17-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 964 B    HW: 1K0 920 964 B
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1212  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H03N98EU
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2C57D2028F63D02F2B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1214  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 387FFE524B3B6C8F5F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 3663F06A412F9AFF4D-8062

2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 262640 km
                    Temperature: 16.0°C
                    Voltage: 14.20 V
                    Voltage: 14.00 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 819002005103087F2D04840570085FC690FCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 030559BE427DFF57BA-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Neigungssensor  003 0203

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1214  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 3979FB5670317587A0-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 5M0 035 186 C
   Component: Radio GR0       034 0033  
   Revision: 0003404S    Serial number: VWZ2Z2H3330583
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 2C57D2028F63D02F2B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1303  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 1012552
   VCID: 387FFE524B3B6C8F5F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1303  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 1012552
   VCID: 3979FB5670317587A0-806C

No fault code found.

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downtime · Jun 5, 2020

And this procedure from RT Wiki does not work ?

Code:

Steering Limit Stop Adaptation
(Engine still running)

Center steering wheel (±10°) and hold it centered for 5 seconds.
Turn steering wheel completely to the left and hold it there for 10 seconds.
Turn steering wheel completely to the right and hold it there for 10 seconds.
Center steering wheel (±10°).
Switch OFF engine and ignition.
Switch ON ignition.
Wait 5 seconds.
Steering Assist Warning Lamp should turn OFF. If it doesn't, perform a short test drive.

It is sometimes a bit tricky but it works. I've done it many times to 2007 Golf Plus.

If it does not clear, this might be worth checking as well :

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Verify all of the WSS (Wheel Speed Sensor) values are plausible in the 03-ABS controller! We received feedback from both Mk70 equipped and MK60 ESP equipped (1K) Golf models with 02546 and 00778 DTCs that would not clear due to a faulty WSS. Even if a WSS DTC is not stored it would be advised to log or graph MVB 001 while driving.

Source : http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist

I would clear all DTCs and take a fresh autoscan and post it here so we'll see the problems still existing. Clearly the Yaw rate sensor errors are not valid anymore if you've changed the sensor box?

Jef · Jun 5, 2020

Thank you for posting the Auto-Scan! :thumbs:

Address 03: ABS Brakes
01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202)
014 - Defective - Intermittent
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Do these codes keep coming back? If so, that is a big problem. Hopefully since they are all listed as "Intermittent", they will clear out and not return.

The 01486 System Function Test, this is a test mode that the ABS module is in, details here. Note this is most likely the LAST thing you want to deal with.

Address 44: Steering Assist
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -

Generally speaking, these codes are pretty easy, just need to do a drunken test drive. Put the car into gear and reach speeds of 3MPH (4kmh), then as fast as possible rotate the steering wheel all the way to the left, hit the end stop, then rotate the wheel quickly to the right and hit the stop, back to the left quickly, hit the stop, ASAP to the right and hit the stop... now center the steering wheel out so you are rolling in a straight line and come to a stop. If the amber steering wheel light is on, repeat the test drive. As some point, the amber steering wheel light will turn off and power steering will kick in.

Address 16: Steering wheel
00576 - Terminal 15
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

Odds are the electrical part of the ignition switch needs to be replaced... getting the trim off the steering column is the hard part of that job, the switch part itself just snaps into place.

motor-magic · Jun 5, 2020

Thanks for the replies.
Sorry forgot to mention, We fitted new ignition switch and those errors have been deleted.
The only errors that remain are 01486 in ADDRESS 03 ABS and 02456, 00778 in ADDRESS 44 steering assist.
Like you say it should be an easy fix. We have done many over the years and have never had an issue like this.
We have checked all speed sensors like it suggests on Rosstech.
Never have we come across a vehicle as stubborn as this one. We have 3 tech's on site and all have tried the procedure many times.
Just wondered if anyone has come up against something like this before ??? Is there something that we may have overlooked ??

motor-magic · Jun 5, 2020

Hi Jeff.

We have had this vehicle with us since February. (before the lockdown).
I think we may have you asked for some advice when we contacted Ross Tech support. It may have been you that suggested posting on the forum.
We have only just returned to work after 8 weeks off and now hoping to try and rectify this problem.
CUSTOMER WANTING VEHICLE BACK

motor-magic · Jun 24, 2020

BUMP ANYBODY

downtime · Jun 24, 2020

Did you finish the system test? Maybe that is now preventing the steering assist basic setting

motor-magic · Jul 7, 2020

Thanks downtime for the reply.

I was told by Ross-tech that it isn't possible to do SYSTEM FUNCTION TEST until all basic settings have been carried out.
I have tried to do this first and get ABS lamp to extinguish, but as soon as stop key off/on it returns with list of error codes for all speed sensors, yaw rate implausible signals etc..

Anyone have any more idea's ??

Would be much appreciated if someone get shed some light. HELP !!

downtime · Jul 7, 2020

But do you still have the system function test activated in error messages? I'm under the impression that you can finish system function test as it's independent from the faults your having.

Check the wiring to the ABS unit. Also check visually the ESP control unit. It should be located somewhere under the gear stick area in the dashboard. MK60 ABS pump does not have them inbuilt yet.

Andymod · Jul 7, 2020

Graph the MVblocks for all 4 wheel speed sensors, I have had a few of these were its a faulty magnet ring on the back of the wheel bearing. It stops basic settings, its usually a rear one

motor-magic · Jul 7, 2020

Thanks for replies.

We have already replaced the ABS controller and ESP sensor (located under drivers seat/carpet), checked all wiring etc
We have graphed all speed sensors in MVB and all are OK.
Tried again numerous times to carry out the basic settings. No luck.???

Jack@European_Parts · Jul 7, 2020

Did you change the ignition switch yet & mini harness?

motor-magic · Jul 8, 2020

Hi Jack

Yes the ignition switch was replaced first off. All the ignition errors have been erased.
We have also replaced the the G85 angle sensor with a new genuine part. The steering rack assy has been replaced with a re manufactured unit from WPS.
The ESP sensor , ABS module and steering column module have also been replaced but with good used parts.
Checked and double checked all wiring harness and ground points.
Still no joy with basic settings.

Can someone tell me. Is it possible to complete brake system test whilst still having error codes in the (44) steering module ?? Seem to be getting conflicting answers to this question.
Some say it can be done, whilst others are saying that you have to erase all error codes first.??

Jacek · Jul 8, 2020

Disabling abs / esp. road test
-04 basic settings
- channel 103 off
- exit with abs and ok

motor-magic · Jul 8, 2020

I will give that a try and let you know how it goes.

Many thanks Jacek

motor-magic · Jul 9, 2020

Update.
We were successful in carrying out what was explained by Jacek. No more ABS warning lamp. Many thanks for that. :thumbs:

So again we tried to carry out basic settings for G85 steering angle sensor. Still not able to carry this out.
When viewing MVB060 in 03 Brake electronics is says OK for adjustment but still says steering angle not initialized?
We have tried all manner of driving styles, still not successful.

Jack@European_Parts · Jul 9, 2020

SAS and all faults must be corrected and test adaption commenced in 0x44 first and then 0x03 and it must all be done in same ignition switch session!

motor-magic · Jul 9, 2020

Thanks Jack.

We will continue to try and carry out the adaptations.
We will update later :banghead:

Golf V plus 2008 steering adaptation fault.

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