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    2012 1.8 Cda Audi TT no go

    Hi everyone, think im missing something and would appreciate a fresh set of eyes...

    Recovered in, cranks no start, no spark has fuel, customer pulled off, engine went flat or into a dead spot then stalled and wouldn’t restart, voltage codes mainly relate to flat battery, this has been replaced with new, coil codes is where I’ve pulled them off, likewise crank sensor was swapped, have low pressure fuel to pump and Hpfp desired and actual seem to be in spec, compression tested and have 130 psi on each cylinder and the distance between cam marks is 124 mm, not had the pleasure of this engine... any thoughts or info would be great!��

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    Monday,01,June,2020,11:25:57:57278
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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    VIN: TRUZZZ8J6C1012138   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8J (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 26 42 44 46 47 52 56 61
    
    VIN: TRUZZZ8J6C1012138   Mileage: 51860km-32224miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine (CDA)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CDA.clb
       Part No SW: 8J0 907 115 BC    HW: 8P0 907 115 Q
       Component: 1.8l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
       Revision: AAH18---    Serial number: AUX7Z0KDFND0ED
       Coding: 0113000C18070060
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 6ED79E827948BB3F7B-803A
    
    7 Faults Found:
    000564 - Boost Pressure Regulation 
                   P0234 - 000 - Limit Exceeded (Overboost Condition) - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 01:15:12
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 24.0C
                        Temperature: 27.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1030.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 12.319 V
    
    000566 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31) 
                   P0236 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 01:56:26
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 292 /min
                        Load: 59.6 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 26.0C
                        Temperature: 29.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1030.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.176 V
    
    000852 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 4 
                   P0354 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 03:16:45
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 286 /min
                        Load: 59.6 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 27.0C
                        Temperature: 29.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.176 V
    
    000849 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 1 
                   P0351 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 03:17:05
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 289 /min
                        Load: 59.6 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 27.0C
                        Temperature: 29.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1030.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 10.922 V
    
    000802 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
                   P0322 - 000 - No Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 03:32:37
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 27.0C
                        Temperature: 28.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.049 V
    
    000851 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 3 
                   P0353 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 04:01:15
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 292 /min
                        Load: 58.8 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 27.0C
                        Temperature: 30.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.176 V
    
    000850 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 2 
                   P0352 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 04:01:15
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 292 /min
                        Load: 58.8 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 27.0C
                        Temperature: 30.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.176 V
    
    Readiness: 1110 0101
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8J0-614-517.clb
       Part No SW: 8J0 614 517 E    HW: 8J0 614 517 E
       Component: ESP MK60E1          0010  
       Revision: 00H60001    
       Coding: 0083216
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 2F694386BEC2F23730-807A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 66
                        Mileage: 51861 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.23
                        Time: 13:20:43
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 2117
                        Count: 128
                        Count: 32000
    
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 66
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 128
                        Count: 837
                        Count: 297
                        Count: 37632
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8J0 820 043 BA    HW: 8J0 820 043 BA
       Component: J255  Klima 1 Zone  0110  
       Revision: 00H09006    Serial number: 00000001202706
       Coding: 1574148
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 66C7E6A251B8737F03-8032
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
                000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 6
                        Reset counter: 106
                        Mileage: 51861 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.25
                        Time: 12:48:35
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.20 V
    
    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 66
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 00:00:01
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 R    HW: 8P0 907 063 R
       Component: BCM PQ35  H   110 0667  
       Revision: AG110667    
       Coding: 46000B2FA805F1202070E8E000000104528A56AA1000C9285C000E400045
       Shop #: WSC 01236 758 00200
       VCID: 43811F36C24A6657C4-8016
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8J2 955 119 A    HW: 8J2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AU354  H09 0070 
       Coding: 00FD10
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8J0 951 177 
       Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H03 0030 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8J0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 8J0 959 655     HW: 8J0 959 655 
       Component: -t Airbag 9.43  H03 0020  
       Revision: 93H03002    Serial number: 0036K005N4GY  
       Coding: 0011636
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 79FDBDDE3006EC87DE-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB40E0DD00F 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB40E09D29C0
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 63747RB4067B0F67Z
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 DB    HW: 1K0 953 549 DB
       Component: J0527           037 0070  
       Coding: 0000011
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 75E5B1EE1C1E88E7BA-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8J0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
       Part No SW: 8J0 920 980 T    HW: 8J0 920 980 T
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H03 0650  
       Revision: D0H03002    Serial number: 224DK002001753
       Coding: 0260428
       Shop #: WSC 12345 067 57207
       VCID: 428F1A321D506F5FCF-8016
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 20:37:11
    
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 20:37:51
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 N    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H43 1623  
       Revision:   H43       Serial number: 021211F1001936
       Coding: 355101
       Shop #: WSC 01236 758 00200
       VCID: 3B7167D6BABA1E978C-806E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03406 - Control Module for Battery Monitoring 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 66
                        Mileage: 51861 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.25
                        Time: 12:48:09
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 8J0 920 980 T    HW: 8J0 920 980 T
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H03 0650  
       Revision: D0H03002    Serial number: AUX7Z0KDFND0ED
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 428F1A321D506F5FCF-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 8J7-959-255.lbl
       Part No: 8J7 959 255 D
       Component: 256 VSG TT      H18 0150  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 408B103A135C7D4FD9-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8J7 959 801 N    HW: 8J7 959 801 N
       Component: Tuer-SG         004 0102  
       Coding: 0000565
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 47990B2636724A7718-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 8J0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 235    3305  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 3D7569CE64AE10A7B2-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Battery Volts: 10.8 V
                            PD
                        Temperature: 28.0C
                        Count: 2
                        Steering Angle: 0.00
                        Count: 0
                            SteerAng n.Init
    
    
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    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8J0-035-223.lbl
       Part No SW: 8J0 035 223 D    HW: 8J0 035 223 D
       Component: J525 Amp High   H04 0160  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000039624
       Coding: 0136137
       Shop #: WSC 18125 000 1048576
       VCID: 2545A1AEEC3EB867CA-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 106
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8J7 959 802 N    HW: 8J7 959 802 N
       Component: Tuer-SG         004 0102  
       Coding: 0000564
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 489B081A3B6C450F11-801C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    
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    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8J0 035 195 G    HW: 8J0 035 195 G
       Component: R Symphony2+    H08 0281  
       Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: AUZ1Z4L3353691
       Coding: 0130101
       Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
       VCID: 306B40FAA3FCEDCF29-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 106
                        Mileage: 51862 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.26
                        Time: 20:31:28
    
    
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    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Batt.regelung H43 1623  
       Serial number: 021211F1001936
       Coding: F326015A
       Shop #: WSC 01236 758 00200
       VCID: 71ED85FEA876A4C766-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02071 - Local Databus 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 66
                        Mileage: 51861 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.25
                        Time: 12:48:14
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:59)--------------------------
    Last edited by Schoonerzero; 06-01-2020 at 05:56 AM.

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    What happens if you clear the fault codes from 01-Engine? Do the coil faults come back right away? Do they come back after cycling the ignition? Do they come back after a start attempt?

    Have you looked in the wiring diagrams for something that the coils have in common with the G31 and G28 sensors? Maybe a ground?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What happens if you clear the fault codes from 01-Engine? Do the coil faults come back right away? Do they come back after cycling the ignition? Do they come back after a start attempt?

    Have you looked in the wiring diagrams for something that the coils have in common with the G31 and G28 sensors? Maybe a ground?

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    Thanks for replying Uwe, all the codes clear and stay cleared after cycle, this was after a days nagging head against wall, it ckp is only two pin checked ohms, even swapped it for new, ecu sees rpm, coils have good eng earth, eng has good earth to battery, good 12v, but scoped all four triggers to ecu, no pulse, so go back to timing, relunctant to undo interference bolt and bend cover getting it off needlessly, check cam timing distance which appears in at the lower tolerance, turns over at 270 live data, has 130 psi on all 4 pots, seems to turn over fast, try not to listen to stories about chains, go back to it was driving away just after start up from warm, cut out no restart, think have I gone too deep, check IMmo, appears ok for engine start (cap com go, guidance go....etc, engine....no!) sorry, go back to wiring, all commons to all coils seem ok, currently at pull ecu out of antitheft to checknpowers and grounds but at the same time wondering about timing chains..... even take plugs out again and stick a camera down the bores, shiny valves and no visible signs of impact damage.

    Does the engine ecu check one revaluation before firing the coils or should the pulse be instant?
    And I’m right in thinking ckp spark and cmp injectors?
    Last edited by Schoonerzero; 06-01-2020 at 03:26 PM. Reason: Missed a bit

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    Hi Shoonerzero,
    " And I’m right in thinking ckp spark and cmp injectors? ". No that is not correct, the ckp and cmp are parts of the whole engine management system, which provides injection and ignition as an integrated system. The fast cranking is a concern, 130 PSI doesn't seem a lot. Do you have signals from CKP and CMP? Have you checked for obstructions in the induction or exhaust?
    Regards HMC

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    9.6:1 compression ratio should have a lot higher comp than 130psi, more like 170

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMC View Post
    Hi Shoonerzero,
    " And Im right in thinking ckp spark and cmp injectors? ". No that is not correct, the ckp and cmp are parts of the whole engine management system, which provides injection and ignition as an integrated system. The fast cranking is a concern, 130 PSI doesn't seem a lot. Do you have signals from CKP and CMP? Have you checked for obstructions in the induction or exhaust?
    Regards HMC
    Hi, yep induction is clear, all pipes to tb are off, put camera into inlet, shut off flaps are there and actuate, have a new cmp to subbsitute later, but yes still thinking the chains moved

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMC View Post
    The fast cranking is a concern, 130 PSI doesn't seem a lot
    Quote Originally Posted by Rollux View Post
    9.6:1 compression ratio should have a lot higher comp than 130psi, more like 170
    The only time I've had an engine crank fast was after the timing belt failed and some valves hit pistons (1 week after the timing belt had been changed but the idler pulley had not and it failed), definitely worth checking that the timing is correct and that all the valves are seating correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    The only time I've had an engine crank fast was after the timing belt failed and some valves hit pistons (1 week after the timing belt had been changed but the idler pulley had not and it failed), definitely worth checking that the timing is correct and that all the valves are seating correctly.
    Tell me about it, but normally thered be nothing on at least on one pot, its only a bit fast, not really fast, if you see what I mean, and this morning have re re re checked, crank mark on mark, inlet is 61mm from raised guide and cams marks are 124mm apart sooo... it still seems not timing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schoonerzero View Post
    Tell me about it, but normally thered be nothing on at least on one pot, its only a bit fast, not really fast, if you see what I mean, and this morning have re re re checked, crank mark on mark, inlet is 61mm from raised guide and cams marks are 124mm apart sooo... it still seems not timing

    Dash cluster !! IMmo flags saying one thing but not releaseing engine ecu, unrepairable

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