Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20

Thread: Retrofitted Discover Media PQ into Golf5/Jetta5

  1. #1
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    78
    Post Thanks / Like

    Retrofitted Discover Media PQ into Golf5/Jetta5

    Hi guys,

    I have a strange problem with a Jetta MK5 of a friend of mine. We did retrofit a Discover Media PQ B type and all works fine only navigation doesn't function as it should be.
    GPS Signal has been checked and is perfect, so it finds directly fix.
    SD card has been checked and works perfect

    Problem we encountered is that after entering destination, the route is calculated good. But when driving, the map is not sliding. It is only updating via GPS fix every 30 or 40 seconds. Also rerouting after driving wrong direction is not functioning.
    It looks like it does not get speed signal. But when I check with my VCDS and open module 5F measure block and check vehicle speed, as soon as I drive it gives speed information.
    I have updated the 1K0 Q type gateway to AD version. I only forgot to clear the errors in module 01 after gateway update...


    Code:
    Tuesday,26,May,2020,19:59:47:51200
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
    VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1
    Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: Haarsma
    Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8M006945   License Plate: OANE
    Mileage: 215630km-133986mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8M006945   Mileage: 215630km-133986miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 021 PM    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  1136  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: VWX7Z0G524I0BY
       Coding: 0000071
       Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
       VCID: 79F3C70D3011524E45-802C
    
    7 Faults Found:
    005712 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1650 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.54 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00101000
                        Torque: 0.0 Nm
                        Torque: 351.4 Nm
    
    005785 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1699 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.54 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11101000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 0.0
    
    005785 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1699 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.54 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11101000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 0.0
    
    049478 - No Communication with Diagnostic Gateway 
                   U0146 - 000 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.54 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11001000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 0.0
    
    006272 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1880 - 000 - Missing Message from Diagnostic Gateway - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.54 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11001000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 0.0
    
    005685 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1635 - 000 - Missing Message from A/C Controller - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.54 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11001000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 16.0
    
    053273 - Control Module for Instrument Cluster 
                   U1019 - 000 - Missing Signal for Oil Level/Temperature - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 215630 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:57:34
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.46 V
                        Bin. Bits: 11001000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 0.0
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
       Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
       Coding: 0017025
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3F8769156EB5BC7E3B-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BR    HW: 1K0 907 044 BR
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 120 1111  
       Revision: 00120021    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 78F5C2090B1B4B463A-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000000676395
       Coding: 00010E2700041500470A00000F000000000959035C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 6FE7F9557E550CFEEB-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 040707 020  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
       Component: 2J AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
       Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD17ZGXC  
       Coding: 0012874
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3D7B131D64B9AE6E29-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME181A30453
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME185823649
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0D641C08B
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0D630D4FM
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AP    HW: 1K0 953 549 AP
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
       Coding: 0000041
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 0005AAE953CB038602-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 920 864 B    HW: 1K0 920 864 B
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G524I0BY
       Coding: 0019103
       Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
       VCID: 2B5F2D458ACD30DE87-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H16 0233  
       Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2720K08703001E
       Coding: E9807F06400602001002
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 69D3974D40B1E2CEB5-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 920 864 B    HW: 1K0 920 864 B
       Component: IMMO            3HL 1212  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G524I0BY
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B5F2D458ACD30DE87-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
       Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1133  
       Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000074978619
       Coding: 0000180
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3B7F1D057AADA05E17-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901  
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 356B0B3D5C89762EE1-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
       Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 80900A0001060C7F2D04840560084F03E0FCA0
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 030FA5E542DD189E1F-8056
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
       Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1133  
       Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000152178605
       Coding: 0000180
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3C7D1E197FA3A7661E-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 P    HW: 1K0 959 795 G
       Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1120  
       Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000001742066
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3D7B131D64B9AE6E29-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 P    HW: 1K0 959 794 G
       Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1120  
       Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000001747769
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 36362 001 1048576
       VCID: 3E79141169BFB57630-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone
    Cannot be reached
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:57)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-27-2020 at 11:15 AM. Reason: PHP -> CODE
    Passat B6 2.0 TDI CR DSG Tuned by Cardrik Tuning

  2. #2
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    78
    Post Thanks / Like
    I have also a video of the problem.
    We also tested this Discover Media into my own car, and then all works as should be. So problem is somewhere in the car's canbus signal

    Passat B6 2.0 TDI CR DSG Tuned by Cardrik Tuning

  3. #3
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    1,775
    Post Thanks / Like
    What kind of wiring harness you have?

  4. #4
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    78
    Post Thanks / Like
    standard Kufatec. why?
    I can access the unit with VCDS so canbus is connected correct.
    Radio switches on/off with contact
    Passat B6 2.0 TDI CR DSG Tuned by Cardrik Tuning

  5. #5
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    1,775
    Post Thanks / Like
    Ok. I would start by fixing the gateway installation list. Remove 37 navigation, 56 radio and add 5F multimedia unit. See if that makes the situation any better.
    Clear all DTCs. Run a fresh autoscan after that and post it here.

    What is your can gateway part number? Your friend has 1K0 but what is yours? It could be that the gateway is too old to support the unit. Then I’ve seen instrument cluster as one factor as well. If you have too old cluster it affects the MIB functionality. And this is on Golf. Passat seems to be much easier.

  6. #6
    Verified VCDS User golfi_vend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Tartu, Estonia
    Posts
    2,121
    Post Thanks / Like
    If he had newer GW, the lsit would fix itself.

    You really need to have them selected when fixing gw list.
    But for this to function properly, You also need newer gw. Sonething from 7n0 907 530 Bx series. And You really need newer cluster and basically everything from mk6 201x+.
    I am a VW Freak - Le WV Freaks OR Come visit me at my work with ODIS concerns - FORSS ODIS GeKo/FaZit access for VW/AUDI/Škoda
    The world is my oyster...

  7. Likes downtime liked this post
  8. #7
    Verified VCDS User Spacewalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Poland
    Posts
    847
    Post Thanks / Like
    ABS is tool old,
    This unit not support only GPS signal, it also need ABS speed
    do simple test
    disconnect CAN, power up unit, and drive
    check GPS status , and you will see that even with 10/10 satelites, GPS position will not move
    HOT HOT HOT VW Touran 2005 with ACC HOT HOT HOT

  9. Likes downtime liked this post
  10. #8
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    78
    Post Thanks / Like
    I guess that indeed ABS signal is old. Just spoke to an other guy who has also a DM in his Golf mk5. Cluster is a Black/white one from Scirrocco. He has the same issue.
    If I exchange the rear speedsensors, the one with part number 1J0 927 807 for the type that I have in my Passat B6. 1K0 927 807, would that upgrade the signal ?

  11. #9
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Posts
    581
    Post Thanks / Like
    problem is not in abs sensors but the signal that is being sent via can bus from abs...
    There are 3 kind of services
    GOOD CHEAP FAST
    But you can only choose 2:
    GOOD and CHEAP won't be FAST
    FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP
    CHEAP and FAST won't be GOOD

  12. Likes Uwe, downtime, PetrolDave liked this post
  13. #10
    Verified VCDS User
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    182
    Post Thanks / Like
    As above. Will need to try latest available abs pump

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •