Audi A3 8P Driver door window auto close / open

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Hey,

Looking for some ideeas on a weird issue :D.

2003 A3 8p.

Removed battery to change steerigng wheel.
After this the window for the driver side will not auto close/open from the driver switch.

Ends have been learned , up,down , confirmed in measuring blocks in VCDS.

The button works, I can see the auto close and auto open command being issued in the measuring blocks. The passenger window works fine.

Tried another window switch , same behavior.

Tried to let controller with not power for a few minutes , still nothing.

Auto running is coded on the controller, tried coding controller to 0 , power cycle and code it back , still nothing.

If I close the windows from the remote it will go up automatically as I have automatic closing coded in the Convenience Module 46.


My next step will be taking a new controller but I have never seen a car do this ...

Any ideas, anyone seen this before ?
 
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Please post Auto-Scan.

If I understand correctly, you can only roll the driver's window up with the remote?
 
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I can post an autoscan in a few hours need to go down to the car again. There is no error logged on the car.
Basic settings are done.

Yes I can roll it up and down with the key. It also auto rolls all the way up when holding down close for 2s and then releasing as set in the convince module.
The problem seems to be it stops the auto roll down/up when using the driver window switch ...
 
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I can post an autoscan in a few hours need to go down to the car again. There is no error logged on the car.
Basic settings are done.

The autoscan tells much more than just fault codes. It tells how the car is equiped with which module and which software. We need that to look things up and help you.
 
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Code:
Friday,22,May,2020,16:40:15:23804
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8P84A051357   License Plate: SB23XUS
Mileage: 292940km-182024mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 76 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P84A051357   Mileage: 292940km-182024miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 J    HW: 028 101 138 3
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  5347  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: AUX7Z0C6FNT06F
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: AA187BE905A355D6F5-80FE

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 D
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0053894
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: B326668DD269141E46-80E6

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8U0 820 043 J    HW: 8U0 820 043 J
   Component: E87  Klimavoll      0220  
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 8U0820043J
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: B83C51A1CB0FF74673-80EC

3 Faults Found:
01855 - Temperature Sensor for Heated Seat; Left Front (G344) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 291656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.02.10
                    Time: 20:03:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 23.5°C
                    Voltage: 12.60 V
                    Current: 0.000 A
                    (no units): 3.0
                    Temperature: -50.0°C
                    Temperature: 65.0°C

01856 - Temperature Sensor for Heated Seat; Front Right (G345) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 291656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.02.10
                    Time: 20:03:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 23.5°C
                    Voltage: 12.60 V
                    Current: 0.000 A
                    (no units): 0.0
                    Temperature: -50.0°C
                    Temperature: -99.0°C

00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 291656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.02.10
                    Time: 20:03:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 P    HW: 8P0 907 279 P
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H63 2904  
   Revision: 00H63000    Serial number: 00000004681726
   Coding: AD8857208294109E00002800000000000009FF1F0001020E008000000000
   Shop #: WSC 16070 123 104857
   VCID: CAD81B69A5E375D615-809E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119   Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0130  
   Coding: 16711696
   Shop #: WSC 16070  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 F    HW: 8P0 959 655 F
   Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H01 0130  
   Coding: 0010602
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: C5C228558CFD9AAEF8-8090

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 G    HW: 8P0 953 549 G
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H36 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 73571 136 85310
   VCID: C2C833499DD3AD96DD-8096

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0080  
   Revision: D05         Serial number: 2246CD05000370
   Coding: 0004003
   Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
   VCID: B5225895DC1D0A2E68-80E0

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 B    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H08 0090  
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 240010371891D2
   Coding: 3D0F0F42070100
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: A6008FD911BB71B6D1-80F2

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0080  
   Revision: D05         Serial number: AUX7Z0C6FNT06F
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: B5225895DC1D0A2E68-80E0

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 J    HW: 8P0 959 801 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         H03 0060  
   Coding: 0004208
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: C2C833499DD3AD96DD-8096

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-143-GEN1.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 143 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.6       0402  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: B326668DD269141E46-80E6

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 B
   Component:    KSG          H02 0030  
   Coding: 58A000583F008505488A016000
   Shop #: WSC 06435 123 12345
   VCID: BB364EADFA39DC5E9E-80EE

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 
   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH23 0100  
   Revision: 00001       Serial number: 10000001038019
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: F0ACA981E3FF6F067B-80A4

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 802 G
   Component: Tuer-SG         020 0100  
   Coding: 0000368
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: C0CC394193DFBF86CB-8094

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 AB    HW: 8P0 035 186 AB
   Component: R Concert2+     H05 0293  
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3L2337145
   Coding: 0120211
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: F2A8A389EDF35D168D-80A6

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 203
                    Mileage: 292943 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.05.22
                    Time: 12:17:36


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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8P0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 919 283     HW: 8P0 919 283 
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0020  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: F8BC91A18B8F3746B3-80AC

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 C    HW: 1K0 963 235 C
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00600000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: AB167EED0A594CDE0E-80FE

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
            014 - Defective

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:27, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.2V)-----------

Ignore the HVAC error as it's a Q3 climate control on A3 , all works fine there and seats are not connected yet. It is working like this for over 6 months now.

There is a J controller on the driver door for auto closing mirrors with remote in FL controllers, it has been in there for over 2 years and working fine, removed battery loads of times no issue.
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Left controller off power for 12 h, connected this morning , still the same ... Anyone else have an ideea? Other than new controller ...
 
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Have you checked the door loom wires to see if they are all ok
 
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Have you checked the door loom wires to see if they are all ok

Everything works , I can see the command being issued, windows goes UP automatically if I close it with the remote.
Just left it for 12h with no power still the same ... I guess a new controller is the only next step ...
 
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Ok , so changed the controller same thing ... it learns the ends but window does not perform auto open or auto close it just goes down a bit and stops .... anyone have another idea ?
 
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It worked till I took of the battery :D , I learned the ends and tried to roll it down using the soft close without it being connected to the window frame , to not have any resistance, but it does the same thing , so even with no resistance on the motor it does nothing ... my next step will be to with the controllers from left to right , code it to right hand drive and try on the other window motor to see if that makes any change but that will be a BIG hassle as one side is facelift , one side is pre facelift I did not need a facelift controller on the right side so it will take me a LOT of time :).

Happy to hear any other thoughts:)
 
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What about term 15 and S-contact? Does the FL door controller "see" those signals correctly?
 
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What about term 15 and S-contact? Does the FL door controller "see" those signals correctly?

I will check those again but I remember seeing them correctly.
 
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Both signals are seen the same way as the other controller sees it ... I have now tried everything I can think off ... I am going to try a complete new door panel with new wires to exclude anything being wrong with the wires ... happy to hear any other ideas ...
 
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