P0106 Fault Code Help

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 7, 2020

My 2009 Q5 is throwing a engine check light at start up every time i drive it
Tried resetting the fault but it always comes back the next time I start the engine after it’s been driven
It’s running fine no noticeable changes other than the constant check engine light

here is the VAG dump

1 Fault Found:
6010 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96)
P0106 00 [237] - Implausible Signal
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 197881 km
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:00

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 44 °C
Intake air temperature: 27 °C
Ambient air pressure: 910 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.390 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: actual: 0 /min
MAF_ENVD: 397.63528 mg/stroke
Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 96.0 °C
Engine: operating status: ES
Battery voltage: 12.492188 V
Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

Readiness: 0000 0000

i replaced the MAP sensor (03C906051F) with a Bosch 261230234 , Confirmed no Vacuum leaks (propane tank and hose) ,
cleaned the throttle body (it was dirty) , Ran the TBA with the engine at temp Adapt moved from 6 to 2
Still getting the same error at engine start up after a drive but not if I just start and stop the engine

noticed my accelerator sensor values were a bit strange but I’m guessing this is just a new rabbit hole I should avoid

Any one able to confirm the values below are normal
Engine OFF Key ON Accelerator pedal not depressed

IDE00025 Coolant temperature 76 °C
IDE00078 Time since engine start 689 s
IDE00083 Throttle valve position (absolute) 11.8 %
IDE00086 Accelerator position 15 %
IDE00349 Throttle valve position: normed 2 %
ENG102297 Accelerator Pedal Position E 14.5 %
ENG103226 Accelerator pedal sender 1: voltage ratio 0.752 V
ENG103029 Accelerator pedal sender 2: voltage ratio 0.381 V
ENG103042 Accelerator pedal sender: learned end stop 4.126 V
ENG103719 Accelerator position 0.00 %

is it normal for the ENG and IDE values to be so far apart 0 vs 15%

Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome

thanks in advance

Mark

Jack@European_Parts · Apr 7, 2020

P0106 Fault Code Help

My 2009 Q5 is throwing a engine check light at start up every time i drive it
Tried resetting the fault but it always comes back the next time I start the engine after it’s been driven
It’s running fine no noticeable changes other than the constant check engine light

here is the VAG dump

Welcome OP

It's an incomplete movement.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16490/P0106/000262

JPPSG

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 7, 2020

Here is the full scan per your request

thanks again for an and all suggestions and help resolving this error

all the best

Mark

Code:

Wednesday,01,April,2020,19:51:52:14281
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WA1KK78R19A055752   License Plate: 
Mileage: 197880km-122956mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8R-AU48 (8T0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62
          65 6C 6D 72

VIN: WA1KK78R19A055752   Mileage: 197880km-122956miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CALB)       Labels:| 06E-907-559-CAL.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 559 A    HW: 8T0 907 559 B
   Component: 3.2 SIMOS8.2  H04 0006  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 0121000A190F0121
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM32FSI8R0907559A A01012
   ROD: EV_ECM32FSI8R0907559A.rod
   VCID: 3E253818C0F4C96B61E-806A

1 Fault Found:
6010 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96) 
          P0106 00 [237] - Implausible Signal
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 197731 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 43 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 25 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 920 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.187 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Engine speed: actual: 0 /min
                    MAF_ENVD: 397.63528 mg/stroke
                    Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 91.5 °C
                    Engine: operating status: ES
                    Battery voltage: 12.085938 V
                    Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B6-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 927 158     HW: 0B6 927 156 
   Component: 0B6 32FSIUSA  H05 0010  
   Revision: --H05---    
   Coding: 001002
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01004
   ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
   VCID: 7AADF4089C5C254B1D6-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8R0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 379 C    HW: 8R0 907 379 C
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H06 0230  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 041500
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 40D946E0BA80BF9B132-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 AS    HW: 8K0 907 064 AS
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H80 0145  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 090500
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 015F83E4F10A76935CC-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A    HW: 8T0 959 754 A
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H37 0060 
   Serial number: 0509000018021013    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H36 0042 
   Serial number: 0209000029169002    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AC    HW: 8T1 820 043 AC
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H06 0150  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01080520091645
   Coding: 46112000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 72BDDC28C4AC5D0B556-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D    HW: 8K0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H26 0253  
   Revision: 05026001    Serial number: 00000000262096
   Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300001D0D0F1C460800010161000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 303916200A202F1BE32-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R1 955 119 A    HW: 8R1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS416 090429  H10 0041 
   Serial number: 90243014090423195000
   Coding: 01DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Serial number: 10465913            
   Coding: 024D25

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AA    HW: 8K0 941 531 AA
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0090 
   Serial number: 00000000000405090268

   Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 G    HW: 8K0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0040  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 40040912800653
   Coding: 300105
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3D273F14CD72D273784-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8R0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 655 A    HW: 8R0 959 655 A
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H13 0320  
   Serial number: 003BRD053NWV  
   Coding: 303633313432303030304A55304C38523053
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416.rod
   VCID: 42DD4CE8B40CAD8B056-8016

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 339     HW: 8R0 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0030 
   Serial number: 5810000R0900004703

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME474123093

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME470555459

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME2B28242CK

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME372C4314E

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME0E270634Z

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME36274E2C7

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H16 0014  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90319IE4000F7 
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3D273F14CD72D273784-8068

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 920 980 A    HW: 8R0 920 980 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H08 0224  
   Revision: 00200000    Serial number: 9EP532A59     
   Coding: 8B1622000300D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 372B2D3CEF4EF823A28-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 P    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0095  
   Revision: EB500046    Serial number: 4600E094238123
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4EC568D870D459EB91E-801A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181     HW: 8R0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0107 
   Serial number: 00000000004140509680

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 760     HW: 8R0 959 760 
   Component: MEM-FS        H05 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001272358
   Coding: 00581300000044440000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 7EA5F81880F4096B21E-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 D    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000008837890 
   Coding: 011D03205E00440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 41DF43E4B18AB6931CC-8014

1 Fault Found:
02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 213
                    Mileage: 194456 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.17
                    Time: 12:49:25


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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 AS    HW: 8K0 907 064 AS
   Component: BCM2 1.1      H80 0145  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0118393261    
   Coding: 0126023A207A749404B005
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 015F83E4F10A76935CC-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H06 0050 
   Serial number: 00000000000000132507

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J245EE19SKB12  H01 0220 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J394EE19SKB12  H01 0220 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 D    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000008886195 
   Coding: 011D03205E00440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 40D946E0BA80BF9B132-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 G    HW: 8K0 907 801 G
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H08 0080  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000000364206
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3333192CFB3614039E0-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
   Part No: 8K0 907 357 B
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0030  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 34311A30F238133B87A-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A    HW: 4F0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 335DX097512919
   Coding: 020000020100000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 1D67DF946DB2B273584-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 664 A    HW: 8T1 035 664 
   Component: H-BN-NA       H63 0042  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 328EX097511908
   Coding: 010200060005A1EF41000B0E000000030000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 36352038E844012BB9E-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 A
   Component: NAR 2008  5203 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604 
   Component: DU7 High  H43 0306 
   Serial number: 9356D-091093966     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 F    HW: 8T0 919 609 F
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H08 0100 
   Serial number: 00000000280884      

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000101063834 
   Coding: 010C03204000240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 43D349ECAB96A4830E0-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 8K0-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 273 A    HW: 8K0 907 273 A
   Component: J502-RDK      H03 0250  
   Revision: 00001001    Serial number: 13374790430563
   Coding: 0CD153
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 303916200A202F1BE32-8064

1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 196595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.03.04
                    Time: 17:47:13

             Freeze Frame:
                        51.30
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00100011
                    Voltage: 14.50 V
                    Text:  16,0°C; -0,45bar;3444547831;00h; 14°C


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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 441     HW: 4L0 907 441 A
   Component: J772__Rearview      0070  
   Revision: --H12---    Serial number: 525PA8-J93A0L3
   Coding: 1020010
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 73B3D92CB7B654035E0-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8R0 827 851 A    HW: 8R0 827 851 
   Component: J605  Master  H27 0290  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8R0827851     
   VCID: 3A2D3408DC5CE54B5D6-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 827 852 A    HW: 8R0 827 852 
   Component: J756  Slave  H27 0290 
   Serial number: 8R0827852           

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000101063811 
   Coding: 010C03204000240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 43D349ECAB96A4830E0-8016

No fault code found.

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Jack@European_Parts · Apr 7, 2020

Here is the full scan per your request

thanks again for an and all suggestions and help resolving this error

all the best

Mark

Thank you for posting the auto-scan.......

Battery voltage: 12.085938 V

In addition to aforementioned link.

Why not have a look at battery, freewheel pulley/alternator and belt plus charging system as a whole for connections & function yet?

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Terrible........

DrPeter · Apr 7, 2020

Hello,

I would suggest to check the Advanced Measuring Values for the F96 and the G31(G71) pressures with the key on and the engine off.

These values should be equal or very close.

Code:

[*ENG99319*],083,,Ambient pressure,LINEAR,hPa
[*ENG101388*],336,,Intake manifold pressure: absolute,LINEAR,hPa

The fault will set when there is a difference of about 210-230 hPa (+/-), according to some of the Audi repair information.

We do have a Ross-Tech wiki page for the fault code page, P0106 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96): Implausible Signal

Hope this helps,

drpeter

MartinsX · Apr 7, 2020

Code:

1 Fault Found:
6010 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96)
P0106 00 [237] - Implausible Signal
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 197731 km
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:00

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 43 °C
Intake air temperature: 25 °C
Ambient air pressure: 920 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.187 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: actual: 0 /min
MAF_ENVD: 397.63528 mg/stroke
Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 91.5 °C
Engine: operating status: ES
Battery voltage: 12.085938 V
Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

I think fault code and FF data together are self-explaining.
Use RTFB and WD, find where F96 barometric pressure sensor is located and find out why it is measuring incorrectly.
Of course, if You are not high above sea level. At sea level barometric pressure 920 mbar is not correct measurement.

P.S. Dr Peter was faster with the same suggestions

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 7, 2020

Thanks for all the tips and suggestions

I replaced the MAP sensor mounted right behind and above the TB

Anyone have any ideas where the second MAP sensor is physically located

I’ll look into the battery and the charging system ASAP didn’t notice that one

I’ll post the MAP sensor deltas from the advanced measurement values ASAP

hopefully that’s the issue causing the P0106 fault code

Thanks

Mark

Jack@European_Parts · Apr 7, 2020

Second MAP sensor? :popcorn:

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 7, 2020

Did I misunderstand DrPeters suggestion to compare the sensor data readings Don his post ?

Dr Peters post follows

I would suggest to check the Advanced Measuring Values for the F96 and the G31(G71) pressures with the key on and the engine off.

These values should be equal or very close.

Code:
[*ENG99319*],083,,Ambient pressure,LINEAR,hPa
[*ENG101388*],336,,Intake manifold pressure: absolute,LINEAR,hPa
The fault will set when there is a difference of about 210-230 hPa (+/-), according to some of the Audi repair information.

Jack@European_Parts · Apr 8, 2020

Do you have a RTFB and WD so you can observe it because that is what you need?

DrPeter · Apr 8, 2020

Mark.wilbur23 said:
Did I misunderstand DrPeters suggestion to compare the sensor data readings Don his post ?

Dr Peters post follows

Sorry for any confusion....

So in the quote below, I was making mention of two (2) sensors:

1) F96-arometric Pressure (BARO) Sensor = "Ambient pressure"
2) G71-Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor = "Intake manifold pressure: absolute"

The G31-Charge Air Pressure Sensor is for forced induction engines...

Hope that clears things up,

drpeter

I would suggest to check the Advanced Measuring Values for the F96 and the G31(G71) pressures with the key on and the engine off.

These values should be equal or very close.

Code:
[*ENG99319*],083,,Ambient pressure,LINEAR,hPa
[*ENG101388*],336,,Intake manifold pressure: absolute,LINEAR,hPa
The fault will set when there is a difference of about 210-230 hPa (+/-), according to some of the Audi repair information.

Jack@European_Parts · Apr 8, 2020

This is why the forum is not a substitute for the RTFB and observation of SSP design and function & to familiarize yourself with circuits or operation of components/locations.

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 8, 2020

Sensors appear to be reading about the same pressure any ideas on where to go from here would be very welcome

Address 01: Engine (8R0 907 559 A)

11:33:54
IDE00190-ENG103225 Charge air pressure specified value-MAP_SP 118.99 hPa
IDE00474 Ambient air pressure 90 kPa abs
IDE00594 Absolute intake pressure 97 kPa abs
ENG99319 Ambient pressure 908.44 hPa
ENG101388 Intake manifold pressure: absolute 979.92 hPa

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 8, 2020

Do you have a RTFB and WD so you can observe it because that is what you need?

Not sure what these items are or how to use them
is there a wiki or other document i should spend some time with
to learn what they are and how to use them ?

again very grateful to everyone here for all of the advice and help so far

i understand that is difficult (and frustrating) to get everyone up to speed on some of the common procedures
but i am a fast learner and m sure with your help we can resolve this fault code

Mark

Jack@European_Parts · Apr 8, 2020

Do you have a RTFB and WD so you can observe it because that is what you need?

Not sure what these items are or how to use them
is there a wiki or other document i should spend some time with
to learn what they are and how to use them ?

again very grateful to everyone here for all of the advice and help so far

i understand that is difficult (and frustrating) to get everyone up to speed on some of the common procedures
but i am a fast learner and m sure with your help we can resolve this fault code

Mark

No sweat.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information

https://procarmanuals.com/vag-ssp-657-audi-q5-type-fy/

https://procarmanuals.com/vag-ssp-433-audi-q5/

DrPeter · Apr 8, 2020

Mark.wilbur23 said:
Sensors appear to be reading about the same pressure any ideas on where to go from here would be very welcome

Well.. there is only a 70 hPa difference in your values at the time the were being observed. So the code should not set .. technically, according to some information I had found in the repair manuals, however I do recall some documents wanting less than 100? I could be wrong..

You could do a 'wiggle' test of the harness, connectors, ecm, grounds, etc while observing these values live with the key on/engine off. Be sure to maintain battery voltage.

Maybe an ECM concern... hard to be sure.. You can use VCDS to clear fault codes three (3) times in a row in less than 30-sconds in the [01-Engine], then cycle the ignition off/on after about a 10 second wait... or You can disconnect the battery for 30 min and see if the code clears?

drpeter

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 8, 2020

I’ll give it a try

Anything I need to run after I reconnect the battery ?

Seen lots of suggestions on running TBA after battery disconnect

Thanks for the help

Mark

DrPeter · Apr 8, 2020

Mark.wilbur23 said:
Anything I need to run after I reconnect the battery ?

Seen lots of suggestions on running TBA after battery disconnect ....

It would not hurt to use the Basic Settings for the Throttle Body Alignment, then run an Auto-Scan, clear all DTC's and see what comes back..

drpeter

Mark.wilbur23 · Apr 9, 2020

I’m going to purchase another different manufacturer MAP sensor and see if it gets closer
To the intake manifold sensor values I found several other vehicle scans on other sites
And all of the scans I reviewed were almost identical readings with in 1-2 MBar

Hope that works

Thanks again for 5he help

Jack@European_Parts · Apr 9, 2020

I’m going to purchase another different manufacturer MAP sensor and see if it gets closer
To the intake manifold sensor values I found several other vehicle scans on other sites
And all of the scans I reviewed were almost identical readings with in 1-2 MBar

Hope that works

Thanks again for 5he help

Think you would mine more GOLD checking and qualifying the harness or tracks shared versus changing out parts?

Ever consider a tester such as a decade box and load lights?

Have you read the entire JPPSG thread yet?

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