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    2017-5N-Tiguan-Sedan-CCTA 2.0 L-Auto Trans-USA J527 STEERING FAULT IN TRANS

    Hello I have a 2017 Tiguan Sedan from a collision center that has had the J527 (Steering Module/Clockspring) replaced. Module was origionaly coded with ODIS. After replacement and coding the wrench light is illuminated in cluster and fault 18275 Powertrain Bus/P1867 Missing message from Steering Wheel J527 set in Auto Trans Module.

    Performed capacitive battery reset using a test light and as suspected fault is still latched. Utilizing the VCDS I can see no coding errors in Steering J527 or Auto Trans modules but I would like a second opinion to know if my coding is correct. Also I contacted 2 different dealer parts departments and both tell me there are 3 possible SCCM/Clocksprings available and catalog will not properly specify without reading part number from old part. Unfortunately the tech has tossed the part in the bin and it is long gone! I'm suspicious that the vehicle has the wrong part numbers so we have ordered the other potential p/n modules. No ETA yet when they will arrive. Interesting part is if I look up based on VIN on other aftermarket sites they show I have the correct part but I'm not entirely sold given what VW parts tells me. Additionally I pin tested each circuit at J527 and nothing suggests possible opens in data lines down/up stream from module.

    Would like help double checking coding in Auto Trans and Steering module J527 please. Also any other insight or suggestions on my situation would be very much appreciated.

    Regards Skyler.

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    VIN: WVGBV7AX7HK045804   License Plate: VVY233
    Mileage: 30040km-18665mi   Repair Order: 330706
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AX-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 4C 52 53 5F 62 72
             
    
    VIN: WVGBV7AX7HK045804   Mileage: 30040km-18665miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 06J 906 027 KB    HW: 06J 907 309 A
       Component: MED17.5.2 TFSI 2 07 3231  
       Revision: P3H08---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0423010A190F0060
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 75EBEE841C616F2E21-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 0101
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 PP    HW: 09G 927 750 PP
       Component: AQ 250 6F           3435  
       Revision: 00H97000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       VCID: 0E19A16819F73CF680-805A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18275 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1867 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel (J527)
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 6
                        Reset counter: 201
                        Mileage: 30032 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.03.31
                        Time: 03:30:31
    
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 CN    HW: 5N0 614 109 CN
       Component: J104   C6 450M VD46 0023  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000009298375
       Coding: 0005161
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 79F3E2B430790B4E45-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 561 907 426 F    HW: 561 907 426 F
       Component: AC Manuell    H03 0506  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0010001002
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00018
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC 001002
       ROD: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC_VW36.rod
       VCID: 1E39D12801178C7610-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 N    HW: 5K0 937 084 N
       Component: BCM PQ35 B    122 0186  
       Revision: BG122001    
       Coding: EF1A0A1B80232EC4008800C11000044448010086524D8960648000000040
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 3D7B36A4A4D1F76E29-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N1 955 119 B    HW: 5N1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS316 100517  24  0664 
       Coding: 009795
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AB    HW: 5N0 959 655 AB
       Component: J234__005 VW10 HI   5418  
       Revision: 36023000    Serial number: 003MAP6KD7H.  
       Coding: 0012341
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       VCID: 7DFBF6A42451376E69-8028
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 003 0001
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0000000000UHVF
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0024.03.170000300000630116˙†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 630116˙†6332MTS6341511870˙†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 511870˙†6342MTS6265511876˙†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 511876˙†6351HTS6VQC3NEKJS˙†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 3NEKJS˙†6361HTS66N23NEKR%˙†63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 3NEKR%˙†63727TS69OUITEKJ-˙†63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: ITEKJ-˙†63827TS6PK9GTEKJQ˙
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: GTEKJQ˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 AL    HW: 5K0 953 569 AL
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0180  
       Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20191025100302
       Coding: 5980040000
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 0201855895AF489614-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 973 M    HW: 5N0 920 973 M
       Component: KOMBI         H02 1104  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 221F010000
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00058
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW31.rod
       VCID: 3E7931A8A1D7EC7630-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BH    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1682  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 300517F1000801
       Coding: 356022
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 77F7E48CC66D1D3E33-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 J    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
       Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7540  
       Serial number: HA1-00029.04.17
       Coding: 0001
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00008
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
       ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_002.rod
       VCID: 52A17518054F1816E4-8006
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H02 1104  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00058
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
       VCID: 6AD1CDF88DDFB0D6BC-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 H    HW: 3C0 959 793 H
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0601  
       Revision: 13100010    Serial number: 0010982374
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00056
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04004
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3A713DB8BDFFC0560C-806E
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 G    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  010 1505 
       Serial number: 00000009890503      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1501  
       Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00171430029901
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       VCID: 428145581D2F889654-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 H    HW: 3C0 959 792 H
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0601  
       Revision: 15100010    Serial number: 0011004698
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00056
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04004
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3B7F38BCB2C5F95E17-806E
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 G    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  010 1505 
       Serial number: 00000009892580      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 J    HW: 3AA 907 801 J
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-63206 0012  
       Revision:   H21       Serial number: 00000000017846
       Coding: 0026156
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 387527B04BF3D246FA-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
       Part No SW: 561 035 150 B    HW: 561 035 150 B
       Component: MU-E--ER      056 7227  
       Serial number: 23061700010694
       Coding: 02130600FF00000041220001001000009F0000140000010000
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00056
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW32.rod
       VCID: 0C1DAB60A7EB0EE66E-8058
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:36)--------------------------

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    Vehicle-specific information
    Vehicle Data
    Basic data
    Make: V
    VIN: WVGBV7AX7HK045804
    Model Year: 2017
    Description: Tiguan 2.0 Track4M147 TSIA6A
    Sales Type: 5N21V3
    Delivery date: Jul 20, 2018
    Engine Code: CCTA
    Transmission Code: SGU
    Colors
    TYPE COLOR
    CODE
    LACQUER NUMBER (LACQUER BODY/ROOF
    NO.) DESCRIPTION
    Interior DM Titan Black
    Exterior
    (Body/roof) D5/D5 LA5J Pacific Blue Metallic/Pacific Blue
    Metallic
    PR-Numbers
    CON.
    NO. NO. ORIGIN FAMILY DESCRIPTION
    1 0AE L STV Front stabilizer bar
    2 0BC L STH Rear stabilizer bar
    3 0EW L EDF Installation differentiation for transmission AQ450 -- vehicle components --
    4 0F4 L KRS Fuel system for turbo SI engine
    5 0FH E FAD Osnabrueck manufacturing sequence
    6 0KA L KAE Without decals and emblems
    7 0NW L SZU Nameplate set "TSI"
    8 0SS L SAU Labels/plates in English and French
    9 0TA L ZFM Without floor mats
    10 0VM L BTA Information kit in American English
    11 0Y4 L KLZ Cold and tropical climatic zones (US)
    12 0YF L GKH Weight range 6 installation control only, no requirement forecast
    13 1AS L BRS Electronic Stability Control (ESC), including Electronic Differential Lock (EDL)
    14 1D8 L AHV Trailer hitch preparation (wiring, bumper, and cross bar with mounting plate)
    15 1E4 L AKB Pollen filter / odor filter
    16 1EB L TYP Without identification plate
    17 1G9 L RER Space-and weight-saving spare wheel
    18 1JL L DFH Rear shock absorption
    19 1KU L BAH Disk brakes in rear
    20 1MG L LRA Steering wheel (3-spoke)
    21 1N3 L LEN Electromechanical power steering with variable assistance and active return
    22 1NP L RAA Hub cap
    23 1PA L ABR Standard wheel bolts
    24 1Q1 L TGL Mass damper for steering wheel, 26.5 Hz
    25 1S1 L BOW Tool kit and jack
    26 1SA L TWU Without additional front underbody guard
    27 1T0 L VBK Without first aid kit and warning triangle
    28 1U8 L KLT Without folding table on front seat backrest
    29 1VG L TWL Installation parts for four-cylinder engine
    30 1X1 L ATA 4MOTION® all-wheel drive system
    31 1Y0 L DIF Without differential lock
    32 1Z2 L KRM Initial fuel filling
    33 1ZD L BAV Power-assisted front vented disc brakes and rear solid disc brakes
    34 2A8 L UEA Delivery equipment for shipment
    35 2G1 L EBB Insert for the filling up of unleaded fuel
    36 2H0 L CHA Without Dynamic Drive Control
    37 2JC L STF Off-road bumper with increased approach and departure angle in body color,
    bumper lower parts and sill in black
    38 2UA L SWP Standard design
    39 2WA L ZBR Without additional tires
    40 3B7 L ZKV LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children),child seat anchor points
    41 3C8 L SHM 3-point seat belt, center rear with US label
    42 3CA L TRW Without partition
    43 3FA L DEI Without roof insert (standard roof)
    44 3GN L LBH Luggage compartment floor removable
    45 3H2 L LER Fold-flat front passenger seat
    46 3K0 L SKS Without safety head restraint system
    47 3L3 L SIE Front seats with height adjustment
    48 3M3 L SZL Passenger car design
    49 3S0 L DAR Deletion of roof rails
    50 3SB L SFR Standard seats
    51 3T9 L KOH Three rear head restraints
    52 3TB L SFL Standard seat in front, left
    53 3U0 L GPR Without luggage compartment cover
    54 3ZD L SHA 3-point safety belts for all seating positions
    55 4A0 L SIH Without seat heater
    56 4AF L TSV Cloth door trim with front and rear door storage pockets
    57 4B0 L SSL Without chrome-plated protective side molding
    58 4E0 L SDH Tailgate/trunk lid unlocking from outside
    59 4GF L WSS Heat-insulated glass
    60 4K0 L TKV 2 radio-frequency remote transmitter key fobs with lock, unlock, trunk release, and
    panic button
    61 4KC L SSH Green heat-insulating glass
    62 4L2 L IRS Dimming breakaway interior rearview mirror
    63 4M6 L BEH 2 cup holders, front with cover, 1 in rear
    64 4QQ L RSV Front safety belts, heigh-adjustable, with pretensioners and load limiters
    65 4U0 L GNF Without luggage nets/pockets on backrests
    66 4UM L AIB Driver and front passenger,front and side thorax airbag supplemental restraint
    system
    67 4X3 L SAB Side Curtain Protection® head airbags, front and rear
    68 4ZE L ZIE Black window trime
    69 5C1 L KSA Body measures for increased safety requirements
    70 5D2 L TRF Carrier frequency 315 MHz
    71 5J0 L HES Without rear spoiler
    72 5K4 L LAC Transport protection cover (shape- adapted system) with additional transport
    protection measures
    73 5KN L HIS 40/20/40-split folding rear seat with sliding bench adjustment and rear centerarmrest
    with 2 cupholders
    74 5MA L EIH Anthracite Metallic interior trim
    75 5RR L ASR Right exterior mirror: convex (US)
    76 5SH L ASL Left exterior mirror: flat (US)
    77 5XX L SON Illuminated visor vanity mirrors for driver and front passenger
    78 5ZF L KOV Front headrests
    79 6A0 L FEU Without fire extinguisher
    80 6E3 L MAS Front center armrest, adjustable, with storage compartment
    81 6KL L KUG Chrome-plated radiator grille frame and fins
    82 6M0 L GPS Without tie down straps/net/pocket
    83 6NC L HIM Headliner
    84 6P2 L KZH Rear license plate carrier (NAR)
    85 6Q1 L SAG Plastic gearshift knob/handle
    86 6SE L KBB Carpeted trunk with compartment light and tie-down hooks in cargo area
    87 6T0 L INL Without interior light in footwell
    88 6W3 L KZV Front license plate carrier (small, NAR)
    89 6XN L ASE Power adjustable and heated exterior mirrors
    90 7A0 L CDW Without CD changer/CD player
    91 7AG L EDW Anti-theft alarm system with Immobilizer theft-deterrent system
    92 7B3 L STD Three 12V power outlets (front/rear center consoles, cargo area)
    93 7E0 L WSA Without heat accumulator/auxiliary heater
    94 7G0 L FVS Without preparation for VTS (vehicle tracking system)
    95 7GB L AGM Emission standard ULEV2
    96 7JJ L AED Vehicle class differentiation 5N0-
    97 7K6 L RDK Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
    98 7L3 L SNA Without start-stop system without regenerative braking
    99 7M5 L EIL Without protective film for scuff plate
    100 7N1 L ALS Sunglasses holder
    101 7P4 L LOR Manually adjustable lumbar support
    102 7Q0 L NAV Without navigation device
    103 7QA L CDR Without CD/DVD for navigation
    104 7R4 L SLE Side turn signals and marker lights (turn signals with white lens)
    105 7X0 L EPH Without park distance control
    106 7Y0 L SPU Without lane change assist
    107 8G0 L LIA Without light control
    108 8GU L GEN Alternator 140 A
    109 8ID L HSW Halogen headlights with clear, lightweight, chip-resistant polycarbonate lenses
    110 8K4 L FLS Daytime Running Lights (DRL)
    111 8L6 L ANT Window diversity antenna
    112 8N4 L SWS Windshield wipers, variable intermittent
    113 8Q0 L LWR Without headlight range control
    114 8RM L LSE 8 speakers
    115 8S5 L LEL 2 reading lights in front
    116 8SJ L SBR Rear combination lamp, standard design (NAR)
    117 8T0 L GRA Without cruise control system (CCS)
    118 8TA L NEL Without rear fog lamp
    119 8W1 L WWA Warning light for washer fluid level andfor lamp failure of headlamp, taillamp, and
    brake light
    120 8WA L NES Without front fog lamps
    121 8X0 L SWR Without headlamp washer system
    122 8Y1 L SNH Two-tone horn
    123 8Z6 L MKU Hot country
    124 9A0 L TAA Without taxi alarm system
    125 9JF L RAU Non-smoker's package (NAR)
    126 9M0 L ZUH Without electric auxiliary heater/ fuel-fired parking heater
    127 9P7 L SGK Visual and acoustic seat belt reminder, electric contact in buckle
    128 9Q5 L MFA Multi-function trip computer with trip time, length, speed, fuel consumption, current
    fuel consumption, miles to empty
    129 9T0 L BWD Without heated washer nozzles
    130 9WC L AUD Without "Multimedia" in vehicle
    131 9Y1 L ATE Outside temperature display
    132 9Z0 L BTR Operating voltage 12 V
    133 9ZX L VTV Bluetooth® with audio streaming for compatible devices
    134 A60 L KRR Category 0
    135 A8C I AUS Comfort equipment
    136 AV2 L LRV Driving on the right (NAR)
    137 B0W L BLB Component parts set, complying with vehicle type for California, various parts
    138 BU2 L TPL Legal requirements for USA 2 States with CARB requirement
    139 C23 E COC Operating permit, alteration
    140 CL1 P RAD 17" Philadelphia alloy wheels
    141 D2L I MOT 4-cylinder SI engine 2.0 l/147 kW (16V) turbo FSI, homogeneous, base engine is
    T59/T61/TQ2/TU2/TD6/TN6/TL5/T6E
    142 E0A L AAU No special edition
    143 EL0 L ONL Without online service
    144 EM0 L MKE Without driver alert system
    145 F0A L FZS No special purpose vehicle, standard equipment
    146 FB0 L LAK Standard paint coating
    147 FC0 L IND Without customized installation
    148 G0R I GSP 6-speed automatic or DSG for four-wheel drive note: family EDF
    149 G34 L DFV Shock absorption in front
    150 GP1 L PAM Vehicles with special upgrade measures
    151 HV0 P REI 17" all-season tires 235/55 R17
    152 I6W L RAO Touchscreen sound system with 5.0" color display
    153 J1L L BAT Battery 280 A (60 Ah)
    154 K8G I KAR Hatchback
    155 KA1 L KSU Rearview camera
    156 KH6 L HKA Climatic manual single-zone climate control with pollen filter and rear passenger
    ventilation in center console
    157 KL0 L KZB Standard license plate lighting
    158 L03 L GKV Suspension range 03 installation control only, no requirement forecast
    159 L0L L LEA Left-hand drive
    160 N4C L SIB Woven fabric seating surfaces
    161 NY0 L BGK Standard battery/alternator capacity
    162 NZ0 L RUF Without call feature
    163 QE0 L ALG Without storage compartment package/box
    164 QG0 L WIV Without service interval prolongation
    165 QH0 L SPR Without voice control
    166 QI7 L SEA Service indicator 10 000 miles or 1 year(fix)
    167 QJ0 L CHR Without aluminum/chrome package
    168 QK0 L KAS Without multifunction camera
    169 QN0 L SVS Without drawers under front seats
    170 QQ0 L LCP Without add. lights (interior lighting)
    171 QR0 L KMP Without compass/road sign display/ dynamic road sign display
    172 QV0 L TVE Without TV reception/digital radio reception
    173 TQ2 I GMO 4-cylinder SI engine 2.0 l unit 06J.B
    174 U5C L INS Instrument cluster, mph speedometer USA
    175 UF0 L ESS Without external electric interface
    176 UG0 L AFH Without hill start assist/hill descent control/comfort driving assist
    177 UH1 L FSB Electric parking brake
    178 V0A L REL Tires without specification of tire brand
    179 VF0 L FHW Standard pedal cluster
    180 VL0 L FGS Standard pedestrian protection measures
    181 WZ2 G Wheel package USA MY18
    182 X9A G Equipment options subset for USA

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    Coding looks good to me for both TCM and J527. This seems to be a bit of a "base" model vehicle.

    Using PL24 to look up the J527 part number... it doesn't give a part number, it states to use a scan tool and see what the original part number is. So I can't say if 5K0 953 569 AL is correct or not....

    Do you have a scan of this vehicle BEFORE the J527 was replaced? Or do you have the old part?
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    I don't see any obvious problems either but NAR market cars are rarely born 8T0 - GRA Without cruise control system (CCS). Tiggy Sue isn't a good baseline since it has the "Premium" package with KESSY and MFSW. I found one scan in our forum based on the 01-Engine coding: 2017 VW Tiquan-S Trailer controller coding help

    .. and with the exception of Trailer Retrofit related DTCs ALL of the modules are coded the same. Address 16 however was another part number:

    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
    Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 CL HW: 5K0 953 569 AJ
    Component: LENKS.MODUL 016 0180
    Revision: FF010042 Serial number: 20170706201341
    Coding: 5980040000

    The old one was tossed so .. if we use that as a trustworthy baseline example the newest replacement for AJ is AL which is already installed.

    If this doesn't start to make any sense I'd be tempted to re-code a handful of the modules back to the same value in an attempt to refresh the confusion out of it. Also, Battery Jesus time?

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    Thank you gentlemen for the great help I just got back to the car today and they installed a second J527 this time p/n 5K0-953-569-BC. The good news is the wrench light and TCM fault is now gone yay! The bad news is new module won't accept coding giving a "Coding Rejected Error 31 Request out of Range". using coding 5980040000 So it seems this module perceives this as improper coding unless there's something in the coding process I'm not aware of like a special login of sorts or requires ODIS not sure? Also is it possible for VCDS to the steering end stop learn once this is resolved? As of now they ordered the 3rd and final possible J527 shown in catalog according to dealer. Part should be here Monday so I'll know more then. Thanks again for the tips guys let me know what you think please thanks so much!


    AUTO SCAN AFTER J527 REPLACED FOR 2ND TIME WITH P/N 5K0-053-569-BC

    Code:
    Friday,03,April,2020,17:07:15:41049
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1
    Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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    VIN: WVGBV7AX7HK045804   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AX-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 4C 52 53 5F 62 72
             
    
    VIN: WVGBV7AX7HK045804   Mileage: 30040km-18665miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 06J 906 027 KB    HW: 06J 907 309 A
       Component: MED17.5.2 TFSI 2 07 3231  
       Revision: P3H08---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0423010A190F0060
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 75EBEE841C616F2E21-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 0101
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 PP    HW: 09G 927 750 PP
       Component: AQ 250 6F           3435  
       Revision: 00H97000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       VCID: 0E19A16819F73CF680-805A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18275 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1867 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel (J527) - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 9
                        Reset counter: 191
                        Mileage: 30032 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.04.01
                        Time: 03:30:31
    
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 CN    HW: 5N0 614 109 CN
       Component: J104   C6 450M VD46 0023  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000009298375
       Coding: 0005161
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 79F3E2B430790B4E45-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 561 907 426 F    HW: 561 907 426 F
       Component: AC Manuell    H03 0506  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0010001002
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00018
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC 001002
       ROD: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC_VW36.rod
       VCID: 1E39D12801178C7610-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 N    HW: 5K0 937 084 N
       Component: BCM PQ35 B    122 0186  
       Revision: BG122001    
       Coding: EF1A0A1B80232EC4008800C11000044448010086524D8960648000000040
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 3D7B36A4A4D1F76E29-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N1 955 119 B    HW: 5N1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS316 100517  24  0664 
       Coding: 009795
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 70
                        Mileage: 30041 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.04.03
                        Time: 00:34:44
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 11.65 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AB    HW: 5N0 959 655 AB
       Component: J234__005 VW10 HI   5418  
       Revision: 36023000    Serial number: 003MAP6KD7H.  
       Coding: 0012341
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       VCID: 7DFBF6A42451376E69-8028
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 003 0001
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0000000000UHVF
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0024.03.170000300000630116˙†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 630116˙†6332MTS6341511870˙†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 511870˙†6342MTS6265511876˙†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 511876˙†6351HTS6VQC3NEKJS˙†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 3NEKJS˙†6361HTS66N23NEKR%˙†63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 3NEKR%˙†63727TS69OUITEKJ-˙†63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: ITEKJ-˙†63827TS6PK9GTEKJQ˙
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: GTEKJQ˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 BC    HW: 5K0 953 569 BC
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230  
       Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20190621200302
       Coding: 4882400000
       Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
       VCID: 7AF1FDB8FD7F00564C-802E
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    365080 - Controls in Steering Wheel 
              U108E 00 [009] - No Communications
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 70
                        Mileage: 30041 km
                        Date: 2020.04.03
                        Time: 01:21:59
    
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 973 M    HW: 5N0 920 973 M
       Component: KOMBI         H02 1104  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 221F010000
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00058
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW31.rod
       VCID: 3E7931A8A1D7EC7630-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BH    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1682  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 300517F1000801
       Coding: 356022
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 77F7E48CC66D1D3E33-8022
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 70
                        Mileage: 30041 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.04.03
                        Time: 01:36:01
    
    
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    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 J    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
       Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7540  
       Serial number: HA1-00029.04.17
       Coding: 0001
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00008
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
       ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_002.rod
       VCID: 52A17518054F1816E4-8006
    
    1 Fault Found:
    16653 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 11
                        Reset counter: 70
                        Mileage: 30041 km
                        Date: 2020.04.03
                        Time: 00:34:41
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H02 1104  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00058
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
       VCID: 6AD1CDF88DDFB0D6BC-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 H    HW: 3C0 959 793 H
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0601  
       Revision: 13100010    Serial number: 0010982374
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00056
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04004
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3A713DB8BDFFC0560C-806E
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 G    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  010 1505 
       Serial number: 00000009890503      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1501  
       Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00171430029901
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 07348 004 1048576
       VCID: 428145581D2F889654-8016
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 11
                        Reset counter: 70
                        Mileage: 30041 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.04.03
                        Time: 00:34:41
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        (no units): 4.0
                        Voltage: 11.70 V
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 H    HW: 3C0 959 792 H
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0601  
       Revision: 15100010    Serial number: 0011004698
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00056
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04004
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3B7F38BCB2C5F95E17-806E
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 G    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  010 1505 
       Serial number: 00000009892580      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 J    HW: 3AA 907 801 J
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-63206 0012  
       Revision:   H21       Serial number: 00000000017846
       Coding: 0026156
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00001
       VCID: 387527B04BF3D246FA-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
       Part No SW: 561 035 150 B    HW: 561 035 150 B
       Component: MU-E--ER      056 7227  
       Serial number: 23061700010694
       Coding: 02130600FF00000041220001001000009F0000140000010000
       Shop #: WSC 00040 028 00056
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW32.rod
       VCID: 0C1DAB60A7EB0EE66E-8058
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:37)--------------------------

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    Then I think you still have a wrong J527 part number

    5980040000 coding breaks down as follows:

    Byte 0 : 59
    • Bit 0 = G85
    • Bit 3 = Auto trans but no kessy
    • Bit 4 = rear wiper
    • Bit 6 = trip computer via wiper staulk

    Byte 1 : 80
    • Bit 7 = ignition switch via J527

    Byte 2 : 04
    • Bit 2 = horn only with Term15

    Byte 3 : 00

    Byte 4 : 00

    The currently installed J527 is coded to 4882400000

    Byte 0 : 49
    Missing Byte 0 for G85

    Byte 1 : 82
    Byte 2 enabled for multi function steering wheel

    Byte 2: : 40


    See if the currently installed J527 accepts coding of 4982400000. This just adds G85 steering angle. My guess is it won't. I find 3 examples of 5K0 953 569 BC and non of them have G85 enabled.
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    To illustrate coding error prompt as presented by VCDS


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    Just to show how base model this car is


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    Limited badge on the back hmm I didn't see that listed in the build sheet.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I don't see any obvious problems either but NAR market cars are rarely born 8T0 - GRA Without cruise control system (CCS). Tiggy Sue isn't a good baseline since it has the "Premium" package with KESSY and MFSW. I found one scan in our forum based on the 01-Engine coding: 2017 VW Tiquan-S Trailer controller coding help

    .. and with the exception of Trailer Retrofit related DTCs ALL of the modules are coded the same. Address 16 however was another part number:

    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
    Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 CL HW: 5K0 953 569 AJ
    Component: LENKS.MODUL 016 0180
    Revision: FF010042 Serial number: 20170706201341
    Coding: 5980040000

    The old one was tossed so .. if we use that as a trustworthy baseline example the newest replacement for AJ is AL which is already installed.

    If this doesn't start to make any sense I'd be tempted to re-code a handful of the modules back to the same value in an attempt to refresh the confusion out of it. Also, Battery Jesus time?
    Nice job researching that Dana thank you! You make great points and I agree the 17 VW Tiguan in archives seems to be a match minus the additional trailer module and all fitted modules are a perfect match in coding. Further down in thread I posted a picture of the Steering wheel and you can see it's not equipped with cruise or buttons. I'm not sure how VW does it but when the suffix letter changes in module part number do we assume it's a newer/updated superseded part and won't likely present any compatibility issues? if that's the case then I see little reason to think moving from back from the AL back to the older AJ would be of any value in this case but I'll defer to you with that thought.

    Today I installed the second J527 dealer test part 5K0-953-569-BC (We had previously installed the AL). Wrench light went out and trans fault now clears. But I get coding rejected error 31 when attempting to code it with what we've agreed is likely the correct coding for the car 5980040000. I did go for the battery reset and no miracles achieved. Body shop decided to get the third J527 listed by dealer which he says is the AK and should have it Monday. Seems that is just the previous part to the AL series so I have my doubts. Going to get back with it Monday. Throwing out old parts and a very inadequate dealer parts catalog is sure creating a lot of confusion to what should probably be an easy job

    Just want to make sure I'm not chasing my tail here but are you sure the VCDS software is up for the task with this car? It definitely doesn't require any special online login to code this particular module and VCDS will be able to perform the steering end stop learns after it's coded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jef View Post
    Then I think you still have a wrong J527 part number

    5980040000 coding breaks down as follows:

    Byte 0 : 59
    • Bit 0 = G85
    • Bit 3 = Auto trans but no kessy
    • Bit 4 = rear wiper
    • Bit 6 = trip computer via wiper staulk

    Byte 1 : 80
    • Bit 7 = ignition switch via J527

    Byte 2 : 04
    • Bit 2 = horn only with Term15

    Byte 3 : 00

    Byte 4 : 00

    The currently installed J527 is coded to 4882400000

    Byte 0 : 49
    Missing Byte 0 for G85

    Byte 1 : 82
    Byte 2 enabled for multi function steering wheel

    Byte 2: : 40


    See if the currently installed J527 accepts coding of 4982400000. This just adds G85 steering angle. My guess is it won't. I find 3 examples of 5K0 953 569 BC and non of them have G85 enabled.

    Thanks Jef for your research and insight with this car. I wish it wasn't true but yes they tossed the old part and no pre scan was done sadly so we're shooting from the hip with this one! I can try the test coding you posted Monday and see if it's accepted. Like I asked Dana I do want to make sure that the VCDS is up for the task with this car. You feel confident the J527 doesn't require any online security login on this car. Also it can take car of the steering end stop setting after? I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking something simple. Hope it doesn't require ODIS but either way just need to know.

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