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    Question Jetta 2017 wolfsburg (same as Golf mk5?) adaption of gas pedal possibilities?

    This is my first post, I bought a HEX-V2 just the other day. The auto scan I'm posting only has comfort signal changed to 4 from 3. I also want to add that even though I have had this car for 3 yearsish, I'm completely new to the VW/Audi world. I used to have a Mustang, tuned that, but like I said I'm a noob with this Euro stuff. It took me like 30 min to figure out if I have a MK5,6 or 7 car, and I still don't really know, do I have a facelift?. Just to give a basis of my terminology and understanding of this realm of vehicles. A bit of a background however, I am a Heavy Duty Parts Technician, so I do have a very good understanding of vehicles, and vehicle systems.

    So I have a 2017 Jetta wolfsburg 1.4t with iptronic AUTO 6 speed and I was wanting to change the gas pedal from adaptive to direct throttle. It seems(after talking to a fantastic redditor) that my MK6 jetta MAY specc'd with MK5 computers. He suggested this after seeing the part numbers of the modules.

    THE MAIN REASON I purchased the HEX-V2 is to change the throttle from Adaptive to Direct. However after some research is seems that may not be possible. It's just that the lag sometimes gets to me, is it because of drive by wire? I also tried that hold the pedal down for 20 seconds to reset, not sure if it did anything. Kinda felt like it did, however it could be placebo.

    Should I be worried about the Malfunctions, and the fact that is says a module wasn't programmed correctly at 0 KM?
    Also should I be googling MK5 mods or MK6?

    Now on top of everything I have put above, anyone have all the available mods via VCDS for my vehicle? Also do i google "Golf MkX", or do I google "Jetta MkX", I just dont get the terminology.



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    Code:
    VIN: 3VWDB7AJ8HM415178   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 25120km-15608mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7E0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 04 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 44 5F
    
    VIN: 3VWDB7AJ8HM415178   Mileage: 25120km-15608miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CZTA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 023 AL    HW: 04E 907 309 AP
       Component: R4 1.4l TFS   H22 3669  
       Revision: X5H22---    
       Coding: 011A0012232400001000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00015
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AL 005004
       ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AL.rod
       VCID: 6A8DC4232CFF1447771-803E
    
       CAN Converter 01: 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    29693 - Sensor for Ambient Air Temperature (G17) 
              P0071 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 09G-927-749-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 158 BA    HW: 09G 927 158 
       Component: AISIN AG6 G3  202 3117  
       Coding: 010100000C000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00015
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 002009
       ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_002_VW26.rod
       VCID: 73B3D9477B35D58FC47-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CC    HW: 1K0 907 379 CC
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0175  
       Revision: 00H46001    
       Coding: A14B400C492300FF850C02EB9221004120100010
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00295
       VCID: 75B7E75F75C1CBBFEA3-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 G    HW: 5K0 959 434 
       Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1305  
       Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0440400033
       Coding: 032C0C
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00295
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
       ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
       VCID: 392F2B6F19D96FDFCEB-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 1K8 907 044 CL    HW: 1K8 907 044 CL
       Component: Climatronic   H08 0405  
       Revision: 00001K05    
       Coding: 005000C002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00319
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 7BA3F16753659DCF9C7-802E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9476885 - Position Sensor for Fresh/Recirculated Flap Motor 
              B109B 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 51
                        Mileage: 24890 km
                        Date: 2020.03.22
                        Time: 17:08:56
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 937 189 A    HW: 7E0 937 189 
       Component: BCM PQ25 MMI3 H81 0744  
       Revision: BA081001    Serial number: 91007130170042
       Coding: 7B994B9A082B0F000939268024C886C54BC6720E60A571F0B0A010032844
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 323D1C43C42F9C870F1-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS 260417 04  42  0106 
       Coding: 0228DD
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DF    HW: 6R0 959 801 DF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  022 1467 
       Serial number: 14102743170519061315
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DJ    HW: 6R0 959 802 DJ  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  022 1467 
       Serial number: 14202742170518203142
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 A    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
       Component: J245 PS41.402  H03 0004 
       Serial number: 0000FST001NJRUS00000
       Coding: 180000
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
       Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023 
       Serial number: 1141701553500184AD2B
       Coding: 280000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 T    HW: 6R0 959 811 T
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  022 1467 
       Serial number: 14102745170531054930
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 T    HW: 6R0 959 812 T
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  022 1467 
       Serial number: 14102744170522131204
       Coding: 000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655 
       Component: AirbagVW11    008 0210  
       Serial number: 003RXM0DW82B
       Coding: 8CCCF000000000005000001AC20800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00015
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6393A907CBD5450FB47-8036
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H13 0022 
       Serial number: IBH000000000007CAX5R
       Coding: 303252
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 605 17
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35700000000241E4C32E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 605 17
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358000000009004DD32H
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 010 16
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148 
       Serial number: 3510001B3229A9E3182+
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 304 17
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148 
       Serial number: 3520001BB24D8E654418
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 805 17
       Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189 
       Serial number: 3550001A524FDE4626FO
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 805 17
       Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189 
       Serial number: 3560001A524FDE44B5BR
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5C6 920 876 C    HW: 5C6 920 876 C
       Component: KOMBI         H02 1104  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 331E000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00319
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
       VCID: 313F134FC1A9A79F76B-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 189 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
       Revision: BA081001    
       Coding: 102201
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 6889BE2B32732657615-803C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.12.03
                        Time: 02:24:33
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H02 1104  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000007
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00319
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8DC4232CFF1447771-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 D    HW: 5K0 905 861 D
       Component: ELV-PQ35      H22 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 17000123242005
       Coding: 4900000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00319
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
       VCID: 313F134FC1A9A79F76B-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 305    3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 392F2B6F15596FDFCEB-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 035 200 B    HW: 5C0 035 200 B
       Component: MU-S-S-US     H32 0363  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2T1331788
       Coding: 02630100BE00000011220001001828001F0100D40020010002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00015
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
       VCID: 1471BADB5EFB72B77DD-8040
    
    1 Fault Found:
    0020 - Tuner for Satellite Radio 
              B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 184
                        Mileage: 3403 km
                        Date: 2018.03.04
                        Time: 20:42:24
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.3 V
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio antenna status: Electrical OK
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Audio Signal: Not available
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Antenna current: 0 mA
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Reception quality: Not available
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation status: Initial_value_forMPFA_not_coded
                        SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation value: FF
    
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:29, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.7V. VIgn 11.8V)-----

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    Your Jetta comes with the PQ25 platform, that it shares with a VW Polo, Beetle, Transporter T5 GP/T6. You can see it in Address 09: "Component: BCM PQ25"
    In some cases, it will come on a different platform, the PQ35 platform that it shares with the Golf Mk6 etc.
    That's all I can say, I'm no expert on the Mk5 Golf or throttle adaptations.

    Your engine is a relatively new (2012) engine for the NAR market
    1.4 TSI (EA211)
    For 2012, these newly developed generation of modern petrol engines are manufactured at the Škoda Auto plant in Mladá Boleslav.

    identification
    EA211 engine family.
    description
    1.4 TFSI Green tec engine with 110 kW (140 hp). This engine achieves its maximum torque of 250 Nm at 1,500 to 3,500 rpm.
    In North American market it is referred to as CZTA type engine (150 hp). In Chilean market it is referred to as CHPA type engine (140 hp) or CZDA type engine (150 hp).

    New lightweight aluminum construction, an integrated (into the head) exhaust manifold, and a toothed-belt drive for its double overhead camshaft valvetrain that incorporates variable intake and exhaust timing. The only aspect to be carried over from the EA111 engine that preceded it is the 82 mm cylinder spacing. The cylinder bore was decreased by 2 mm (to 74.5mm) while the stroke was increased to 80mm, a change which helps compactness, increases torque, and is ideal for adding boost.


    I'm not sure this engine has ever been in the Mk5 Golf, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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    This car itself is an Mk.6. "VW36", but VW used a less expensive "Polo" PQ25 BCM in many of these cars. "Parts bin cost engineering".

    I would not worry too much about the fault in 01-Engine because it is "Intermittent - Not Confirmed" and the ECU has not seen fit to report it to the Gatway "01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000"

    The fault in the HVAC sounds like a bad sensor or bad connection to that sensor. Unfortunately, it's likely buried and would require lots of disassembly to get to. If this was my car, I'd clear it and see how quickly (and under what circumstances) it comes back.

    The "Control Module Incorrectly Coded" is flagged "Intermittent". Clear it and see if it comes back. My guess is someone was fooling with something back in December of 2018 and never cleared the fault.

    "Tuner for Satellite Radio -- Deactivated" just tells you that the subscription to Sirius/XM is not active. The only way to get rid of this "fault" is to get a Sirius/XM subscription.

    You can't really do much about the behavior of the gas pedal. Since the car has an automatic transmission, it's difficult to say whether any lag you are experiencing is actually in the throttle/engine or whether it's due to some behavior in the transmission. One thing that might be worth trying is to calibrate the throttle body. See this page. Please read the whole page. The actual procedure applicable to your car is the last one, "Drive-by-Wire (DBW) Engines using KWP-7000 (UDS/ODX)", and the Basic Setting in your ECU should be:
    IDE00754 -- Test of throttle valve adaptation

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    Well that's extremely helpful, really are a Benevolent Dictator. You've cleared up my worries with those codes.
    That being said, with your experience, do you think that a Throttle body calibration would actually do anything?

    I kinda wish I knew about this stuff before I purchased this car.. i would have gotten a different model with more possibilities.

    Going forward if I have any issues trying to enable/disable something, do I just create a new thread under tweaks?

    Very friendly community, nice to see.

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    This information has helped greatly, thank you sir. @iichel

    So I have to look up each individual module instead of the vehicle model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBxPsi View Post
    Going forward if I have any issues trying to enable/disable something, do I just create a new thread under tweaks?
    You can check VW Jetta (16/AJ) Tweaks but if something isn't listed create a new thread under the tweaks sub-forum with a scan and someone should be able to assist.


    Quote Originally Posted by TBxPsi View Post
    So I have to look up each individual module instead of the vehicle model?
    Sorta. You can search online for Mk6 Jetta Sedan tweaks but make sure the instructions aren't for a Mk6 based JSW or GLI which used the higher-end PQ35 BCM (which supported a larger list of tweaks).

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