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    No communication with Batt controler 61 on A4 2010 or Q7 2011

    My Hex Can connector with latest software revision on March 31 2020 can't communicate with the battery controller on both of my vehicles 2011 Q7 with 57K miles and 2010 A4 with 32K miles. I doubt it's the physical hardware since it's on both. What should I do next? Both have new AMG batteries and I'd like to change the settings. Please help. : O )

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    The battery management controller is NOT always at address #61 on all cars, on some it's a subsystem of the CAN Gateway at address 19.

    Please post a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan of both your A4 & Q7 so we can see how your vehicles are configured and suggest what you need to do.

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    A4 LED bulb in trunk is throwing the convenience code

    Code:
    Wednesday,01,April,2020,13:03:34:24685
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUHFAFLXAN038121   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 62 72 77
             
    
    VIN: WAUHFAFLXAN038121   Mileage: 56610km-35175miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (DL0MA-CAEB)       Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AA    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H16 0003  
       Revision: E1H16---    
       Coding: 0104010A180F0160
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS8K2907115AA A01004
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL.rod
       VCID: 6ED3B1FCB1F7683F47-803A
    
    4 Faults Found:
    2643 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
              - 00 [032]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    7136 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module 
              U0121 00 [032] - -
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    4713 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module 
              U0121 00 [032] - -
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    4629 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit 
              P068A 00 [032] - Opens Too Early
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CA    HW: 8K0 907 379 CA
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0030  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 070D18
       Shop #: WSC 09218 444 83803
       VCID: 7AFB8DACF5BF349FEB-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0326  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0B0100
       Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
       VCID: 78FF97A4CBB3268F9D-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A    HW: 8T0 959 754 A
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H37 0060 
       Serial number: 0509000068109005    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
       Serial number: 0209000060255016    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0171  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01211120091040
       Coding: 64002000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 000FFF4493636E4FA5-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H25 0380  
       Revision: 10025001    Serial number: 00000000516735
       Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C120800010161000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3C774BB4BF0BCAAFB9-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 191109  H06 0070 
       Serial number: SWF09110195491      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 10681339            
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL    HW: 8K0 941 531 AL
       Component: E1 - LDS  H08 0090 
       Serial number: 00000000001311090067
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 B    HW: 8K0 907 410 B
       Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 H    HW: 8K0 959 655 H
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H39 0560  
       Serial number: 003EGD058YCJ  
       Coding: 303836354230303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 02135 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 428B354CD5EFBC5FF3-8016
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 B    HW: 8K0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0030 
       Serial number: 5810000R09000058SQ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME4D657071G
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME4C6136208
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME5B44480ER
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME564306248
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME48421F3E7
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME4B42371E3
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H16 0014  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90304IKO000G2 
       Coding: 000016
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3D7146B0A411C3A78E-8068
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 950 E    HW: 8K0 920 950 E
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H20 0255  
       Revision: 00100000    Serial number: CIM10VGC9     
       Coding: 8B1409000300D705020000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 31696A80684937C71A-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 R    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0105  
       Revision: GB600050    Serial number: 5000G09B1184C6
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 50AF0F0403835ECF75-8004
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDM  H06 0170 
       Serial number: 1909B425091109      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199)       Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 785 A    HW: 8T0 035 785 
       Component: SG ext.Player H08 0280  
       Revision: 00000000    
       Coding: 020302
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 397952A0B039FF87A2-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000009627771 
       Coding: 011C03204000410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 45812E50CCC18B67D6-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0326  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0124213271    
       Coding: 0106023A007A444400B0013200000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 78FF97A4CBB3268F9D-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
       Component: GTO BF  H06 0050 
       Serial number: 00000000000000196115
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS037  H06 0041 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 28
                        Reset counter: 253
                        Mileage: 54600 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.11.23
                        Time: 17:15:41
    
    
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    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOC.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AR    HW: 8T0 035 223 AJ
       Component: DSP Prem      H19 0320  
       Revision: 00019001    Serial number: 34835000269402
       Coding: 0203010302
       Shop #: WSC 03332 444 84063
       VCID: 7EF381BCE99718BFD7-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000009630180 
       Coding: 011C03204000410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44873354C7FBB26FC1-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000375242
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34676394975B02EF71-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
       Part No: 8K5 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       VCID: 77FD949806AD29F794-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 186 R    HW: 8T1 035 186 R
       Component: Con3 Sirius   H04 0351  
       Revision: 00000006    Serial number: AUZ5Z6I1311793
       Coding: 04030002010185004359070800
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 4683295CF1C7807FDF-8012
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 E    HW: 8T0 919 603 E
       Component: Display  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
                000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 61
                        Reset counter: 191
                        Mileage: 51470 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.06.11
                        Time: 23:08:53
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 10000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
    
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 148
                        Mileage: 2715 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2011.02.09
                        Time: 12:22:05
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000102353343 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 428B354CDDEFBC5FF3-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000102353342 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 428B354CDDEFBC5FF3-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8T0 862 336 D    HW: 8T0 862 336 D
       Component: FSE_256x BT     H39 0600  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005062602
       Coding: 0010370
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 3C774BB47F0BCAAFB9-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:50)--------------------------

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    2011 Q7. Replaced battery, now has FC1826 after battery replacement that I can't clear. Supply voltage terminal 30. Maybe it's an artifact of the replacement work. After I took it for a short drive the TPMS fault when inactive.

    Code:
    Wednesday,01,April,2020,13:30:30:24685
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WA1WMAFE8BD004147   License Plate: 
    
    
    Gateway Installation List:  4F0 907 468 Q
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    Last edited by Ryan Sief23; 04-01-2020 at 02:03 PM.

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    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ry_Replacement

    I should have just keep reading...I'll try the CAN Gateway, Adaption 10 "way"... I thought there was a way to change battery time from flooded to AGM, but I don't see that in the instructions.
    Last edited by Ryan Sief23; 04-01-2020 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Sief23 View Post
    2011 Q7. Replaced battery, now has FC1826 after battery replacement that I can't clear. Supply voltage terminal 30. Maybe it's an artifact of the replacement work. After I took it for a short drive the TPMS fault when inactive.
    You only posted the Gateway Installation List from this vehicle, not the whole scan.

    The A4 that you posted the whole scan from has the Battery Monitor as a sub-system of the Gateway:

    Code:
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 R    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0105  
       Revision: GB600050    Serial number: 5000G09B1184C6
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 50AF0F0403835ECF75-8004
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDM  H06 0170 
       Serial number: 1909B425091109      
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