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    Immobilizer/gauge issues

    Well the "flying turd" is at the VW dealer for a few things....mainly getting a real VW flip key. I was told the immobilizer is bad and it would be $1100 to replace it. Well this is a cheap daily driver. I know I can just keep driving with the plain non flip key, but I like the VW key. I know it has been and can be done, but I wanted to ask about buying a used gauge cluster and putting it in my 2007 GTI. Do I just buy a MK5 GTI gauge cluster or do I need to know more info?

    From the short bit of research I have done the vagcom cable I have from Ross-Tech will allow me to reprogram everything but really want to be 100% sure before I start going down this rabbi thole.

    I appreciate the help in advance.
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    Immobilizer/gauge replacement

    Well the "flying turd" is at the VW dealer for a few things....mainly getting a real VW flip key. I was told the immobilizer is bad and it would be $1100 to replace it. Well this is a cheap daily driver. I know I can just keep driving with the plain non flip key, but I like the VW key. I know it has been and can be done, but I wanted to ask about buying a used gauge cluster and putting it in my 2007 GTI. Do I just buy a MK5 GTI gauge cluster or do I need to know more info?

    From the short bit of research I have done the vagcom cable I have from Ross-Tech will allow me to reprogram everything but really want to be 100% sure before I start going down this rabbi thole.

    I appreciate the help in advance.

    How about we just disable the immobilizer in cluster and ECU and for donation you specify plus freight with valid credentials submitted with your auto-scan?

    Than did you know the keys dont matter as long as they fit the lock the car starts provided the alarm disarmed & would still work too & as it did before providing it is actually functional and a separate system?
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    Not exactly sure what you are saying in your post.

    I understand I can disable my immobilizer using Vagcom. But the whole point of my post is I want to be able to use a VW flip key that has lock and unlock buttons. I am told my immobilizer is defective in my GTI, which I do believe because I know pretty much everyone at the dealer and have dealt with them for many years. I understand the regular key will function as normal as it does right now, it locks and unlocks the vehicle and starts the vehicle as I have been driving it.

    Still wanting to know if I can buy a used instrument cluster, swap into my MK5 GTI and recode to my current vehicle. As I said I have been researching and it appears it is possible but I want more specific information as to do I have to worry about which cluster I buy or will any MK5 cluster work. Is there a detailed write-up on doing a replacement?

    Thank you for all the information.

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    Not exactly sure what you are saying in your post.

    I understand I can disable my immobilizer using Vagcom. But the whole point of my post is I want to be able to use a VW flip key that has lock and unlock buttons. I am told my immobilizer is defective in my GTI, which I do believe because I know pretty much everyone at the dealer and have dealt with them for many years. I understand the regular key will function as normal as it does right now, it locks and unlocks the vehicle and starts the vehicle as I have been driving it.

    Still wanting to know if I can buy a used instrument cluster, swap into my MK5 GTI and recode to my current vehicle. As I said I have been researching and it appears it is possible but I want more specific information as to do I have to worry about which cluster I buy or will any MK5 cluster work. Is there a detailed write-up on doing a replacement?

    Thank you for all the information.

    First off VCDS cant disable an immobilizer......

    Don't you know that flip key function for central locking/alarm are separate from immobilizer, nor contained in it requiring unilateral function?

    Sounds like your immobilizer works as specified, why not just add a key with VCDS & provided you have a valid PIN?

    Did you know additional remotes can be married without VCDS too and are not related to Immobilizer?

    Did you know lawfully you can not swap a cluster into another vehicle & that has a different conformity, unless the part number is detailed in microfiche or configurable to do so since the MIL resides in it?

    You could always start with using the RTFB and microfiche to check cross overs but that sounds like you need to take yourself and this thread to retrofits or tweaks because what you ask & with data provided is not a qualified repair?

    $1100 USD repair sounds unfair no?

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    Vehicle Identification No. WVWEV71K17W058934
    Model Rabbit GTI
    GO
    Date of production 29.08.2006
    Model year 2007
    Sales type 1K19V2
    Engine Code BPY
    Transmission Code JLW




    WARNING TPMS MIL appears disabled tampered!

    FOD CHECK TO COMMENCE!


    Code:
    
    Sunday,29,March,2020,12:37:35:23322
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWEV71K17W058934   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65
    
    VIN: WVWEV71K17W058934   Mileage: 213780km-132836miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0001
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 H    HW: 8P0 907 115 B  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
       Revision: 5BH14---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8079630
       Coding: 0403010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 65728 1018 854933
       VCID: 2B0301691F0081FF4C7-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0021122
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 73B3D90987B0993FC47-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 044 BJ
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909  
       Revision: 00090016    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 70B9D605F6A6A227395-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) 
                000 - - - Intermittent
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
       Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000006003607
       Coding: B78F8F21400415000014000000140000001D770B5C0000
       Shop #: WSC 08319 444 84786
       VCID: 372B2D19D348351F38F-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 200706 020  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 08319  
    
    8 Faults Found:
    01593 - Heated Windshield (Z2) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101010
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 121
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 211269 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 13.00 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01064 - Terminal 58d; Interior Dimming 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101010
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 69
                        Reset counter: 167
                        Mileage: 212637 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 14.00 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01800 - Light Switch (E1) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 185
                        Mileage: 213010 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.30 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 153
                        Mileage: 211221 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.20 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 153
                        Mileage: 211221 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.30 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01495 - Bulb for High-Beams; Left (M30) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 29
                        Reset counter: 153
                        Mileage: 211220 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.45 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01499 - Bulb for High-Beams; Right (M32) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 33
                        Reset counter: 153
                        Mileage: 211220 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 11.45 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 185
                        Mileage: 213010 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.70 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 F    HW: 8E0 035 593 F
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H03 0120  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7F1029378
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2C0102751A0E86C745D-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 153
                        Mileage: 213721 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 17:28:01
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
       Component: 5L AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
       Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0661WZ  
       Coding: 0013644
       Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
       VCID: 6C81C275DA8E46C705D-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME156B5B46K
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME12267E0AE
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME127B030DE
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME10331F39D
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME0A5F05746
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0A5F077BG
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
    01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AJ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AJ
       Component: J0527           034 0070  
       Coding: 0002022
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 7AADF42DA0DAE877871-802E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           002 0010
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 A    HW: 1K6 920 973 A <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8079630
       Coding: 0005107
       Shop #: WSC 65536 645 97773
       VCID: 313F13013D2CEB2F76B-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
       Revision:   H12       Serial number: 3100106714082B
       Coding: 7D8F03000F004000
       Shop #: WSC 24313 444 999999
       VCID: 2C0102751A0E86C745D-8078
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 211209 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:21:56
    
    01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 185
                        Mileage: 213010 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 13:03:30
    
    
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    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K6 919 879     HW: 1K6 919 879 
       Component: Kompass         001 0002  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223T1HLL02
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 7DA7FF31B1F4DF4FA23-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 A    HW: 1K6 920 973 A
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8079630
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 313F13013D2CEB2F76B-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 67433 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 14:25:33
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
       Component: Tuer-SG         005 0967  
       Coding: 0001077
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 38292E25DE563A67315-806C
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
    00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H07 1806  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
       VCID: 34311A15C23EDE071DD-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
       Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0215  
       Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 139006885103083F6D04058FB0080A04889C00
       Shop #: WSC 08319 444 84786
       VCID: 74B1DA1582BE9E07DDD-8020
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 111
                        Reset counter: 132
                        Mileage: 211220 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:27:48
    
    01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 185
                        Mileage: 213010 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 13:05:19
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
       Component: Tuer-SG         005 0967  
       Coding: 0001076
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 392F2B21E55C236FCEB-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 1T0 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 74B1DA1582BE9E07DDD-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
       Component: Radio PM6       017 0019  
       Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7F2086914
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 2411EA5572DE4E878DD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
       Component:    RDK              0420  
       Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0100101
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 74B1DA1582BE9E07DDD-8020
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 66
                        Mileage: 211773 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 05:54:34
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:12, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/12.0V)-----------


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    Special editions E0A Without special action equipment
    Lockable wheel bolts 1PC Wheel bolts with anti-theft protection (unlockable)
    Vehicle class differentiation units/platform components 0HA Vehicle class differentiation -1K0-
    tail pipe 0P1 Rear side exhaust tailpipe
    Hill start assist UG0 Without hill start assist/hill descent control/comfort driving assist
    Emission standard 7GB Emission standard ULEV 2
    Trailer hitch 1D0 Without trailer hitch
    airbag 4UM Driver's and front passenger air bag, NAR with front passenger air bag deactivation (2-stage) - SMART airbag with automatic deactivation
    Aktivkohlebehälter / Ottopartikelfilter 1E4 Activated carbon canister (ORVR) and siphoning device for fueling
    Aerials 8ZH Antenna for AM/FM reception, "diversity"
    Exterior mirror setting 6XN Exterior mirrors, power-adjustable/ separately heated
    Left exterior mirror 5SH Left exterior mirror, flat (US)
    Right exterior mirror 5RR Right exterior mirror, convex (US)
    Drive type 1X0 Front-wheel drive
    "Multimedia"video/DVD/notebook connection 9WL Jack for external audio source
    Equipment levels A8H Top sports equipment
    Brake type in rear 1KV Disc brakes in rear (Geomet D)
    batteries J1L Battery 280 A (60 Ah)
    Brake type, front 1LV Disc brakes in front
    Components with special surface 6FF Exterior mirror housing and various attachments colour coded to vehicle
    Battery/alternator capacity NY0 Standard battery/alternator capacity
    Component part sets with country-specific design requirements B0D Component parts set, complying with vehicle type for USA (without California), various parts
    vehicle tools and jack 1S1 vehicle tools and jack
    Brake systems 1AT Electronic stability control (ESC)
    Owner's manuals 0VM Information kit in American English
    Operating voltage 9Z0 Operating voltage 12 V
    Brake pad wear indicator 9U1 Brake pad wear indicator
    Heated washer nozzles 9T1 Heated washer nozzles in front
    CD ROM/DVD/SD card 7QA Without CD/DVD for navigation
    CD changer/CD player 7A0 Without CD changer/CD player
    Chrome package QJ0 Without aluminum/chrome work package
    General operating permit, alterations C16 Operating permit, alteration
    Roof rails/roof load rack 3S0 Without roof rails/roof load rack
    Roof insert/convertible top 3FE Tilting and sliding glass sunroof with sunbshade
    Suspension system in rear 1JH Rear shock absorption
    Suspension system in front G11 Shock absorption in front
    Load-through hatch/ski bag 3X0 without load through system
    Insert for the filling up of unleaded fuel/fuel type 2G7 Filler neck module 1 with insert
    Installation differentiation for components 0EN Installation differentiation for transmission MQ 350 -- vehicle components --
    Theft protection system 7AG Electronic immobilizer with anti-theft alarm system (for USA)
    Inserts 5MD Decorative aluminum inserts
    Scuff plates 7M6 Protective film for scuff plate
    Park distance control 7X0 Without park distance control
    Electric interface for external use UF0 Without electric interface
    Manufacturing sequence differentiation 0FA Standard manufacturing sequence
    window regulator 4R4 Power windows with comfort operation and circuit breaker
    fire extinguisher 6A0 without fire extinguisher
    Pedestrian protection VL0 Without extended pedestrian protection measures
    Pedal cluster VF1 pedal cluster
    Headlight activation 8K4 Separate daytime running light -- NAR --
    Vehicle specifications F0A No special purpose vehicle, standard equipment
    Alternators 8GU Alternator 140 A
    Weight category rear axle 0YC Weight range 3 installation control only, no requirement forecast
    Weight category front axle L35 Suspension range 35 installation control only, no requirement forecast
    Base engine T59 4-cylinder SI engine 2.0 l unit 06F.C
    Luggage netting/pocket on backrest(s) 4U5 Luggage pockets on backrest
    Luggage compartment cover 3U1 Folding trunk cover
    cruise control system 8T2 Electronic cruise control system (CCS)
    Garage door opener VC0 without Garage door opener
    Luggage compartment trim 5A7 Comfort luggage compartment trim with service lid/snap-on cover
    Transmission specifications G0K 6-speed manual transmission
    Brackets 3P0 Without bracket for first aid kit and warning triangle
    handle for hand brake lever 6PC Hand brake lever handle in leather
    Rear spoiler 5J4 Body-colored rear spoiler
    Rear window wiper and washer system 8M1 Rear window wiper washer system with intermittent wipe
    Rear seats 3NU Rear bench seat, not split, split backrest, folding centre armrest
    Heating and air-conditioning system 9AK Climatronic with impact pressure control, CFC-free
    Headlamps 8JF Twin headlamps for driving on the right (gas discharge) w/ integrated high beam (US design)
    Customized installation FC0 Without customized installation
    Interior light in footwell 6T1 Interior light in footwell
    Instrument clusters U5C Instrument cluster, mph speedometer - USA -
    Breakaway interior rearview mirror 4L2 Breakaway interior rearview mirror, dimming
    Sticker (customized or special edition) 0KA Without decals and emblems
    Body style K8G Hatchback
    Cassette and CD storage unit 4W0 without cassette / CD tray
    Refrigerator 1W2 Glove compartment cooling system
    Electronic map cooling system QS0 Without electronic map cooling system
    Child seats QA0 without child seat
    Climatic zones 0Y3 Cold zones
    Compass/road sign display QR1 With compass
    Rear head restraints 3Q6 Three rear head restraints
    Head restraints 5ZH Head restraints for front seats, tilt- and height-adjustable with integrated adjustment mechanism
    Fuel tank treatment 2LC Fuel tank with special material treatment (coextrusion)
    Fuel quantity for initial filling 1Z2 Increase in initial standard fuel filling
    Fuel systems 1A5 Petrol injector fuel system (FSI)
    Body measures 5C1 Body measures for increased safety requirements
    Child seat anchors in front 3G0 Without child seat anchora in front (ISOFIX)
    Rear license plate carrier 6P2 Rear license plate carrier (NAR)
    Front license plate carrier 6W3 Front license plate carrier (small, NAR)
    Paint preservative/transit coating 5K0 with no paint conversation
    Paint coating FB0 standard paint coating
    Rear cargo area 3GA Without luggage compartment floor
    Steering system arrangement L0L Left-hand drive
    Reading lamp 8S4 Two reading lights in front, two in rear
    steering 1N3 Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
    Backrest release 3H9 Backrest release for front seats with Easy Entry feature
    Air duct, front area VK1 Air duct, type 1
    Load edge protection 2P1 Plastic loading edge protection
    Lumbar support 7P1 Power-adjustable lumbar support in front seats
    steering wheels 2FN Leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel with decorative aluminum inserts
    Speaker installation 8RW 10 speakers (passive)
    Headlight range control 8Q3 Dynamic headlight range control (self-adjusting while driving)
    Center armrest 6E3 Center armrest in front
    Multi-function display/trip computer 9Q5 Multi-function display with control
    Engine cooling 8Z6 Hot country
    Engine specifications D2L 4-cylinder petrol engine 2.0 L/147 KW (16 V) Turbo FSI, homogeneous Basic engine is: T59/T61/TQ2/TU2/TD6/TN6
    Left vanity mirror 4SH Left vanity mirror illuminated with cover and special mirror imprint (NAR), extractable
    Right vanity mirror 4TH Vanity mirror, right, illuminated, with cover and special mirror imprint (NAR), extractable
    Navigation device 7Q0 without navigation system
    rear fog lamp 8TA witout rear fog lamp
    Front fog lamp/additional headlamp 8WD Integrated front fog lamps
    Rear of platform module base 4P0 Rear floor panel module, type 1
    Platform group class 7PA Platform group class 1
    Hubcaps 1NL Trims for alloy wheels
    Wheels CQ4 Alloy wheels 7.5J x 18
    Radios 8US Radio "Premium" (double-size standard radio)
    Smoker's/non-smoker's package 9JA Non smoker version
    Tire pressure monitoring system 7K4 Tire pressure monitoring system 315 MHz High
    tire H7D Tires 225/40 R18 92Y xl
    Tire suppliers V0A Tires without specification of tire brand
    Spare wheel/breakdown kit 1G1 Space-saving spare wheel
    Restraint systems, front 4QQ 3-point seat belts in front with pretensioner and height adjustment, US label
    P02 Package 2 GTI NAR
    PJZ GTI 18-inch wheel and tire package
    Side airbag 4X3 Side airbag in front, with curtain airbag
    Gearshift knob/handle 6Q6 Gearshift knob/handle in aluminum
    Special labels/plates 0SS Labels in English and French
    Locking mechanism for boot lid/cover rear 4E2 Tailgate/trunk lid release from inside (electrically)
    Front seat, left 3TU Sports seat in front left
    Front seat, right 3SU Sports seat in front, right
    Nameplate for sales name QD0 Without nameplate for sales name
    Seat belt check 9P7 Visual and acoustic seat belt reminder, electric contact in buckle
    Outer rear seat belts 3ZD 3-point seat belts, outer rear with US label
    Center rear seat belts 3C8 3-point seat belt, center rear with US label
    seat covers N7F Seat trim covers in part-leather, embossed leather
    Seat adjustment 3L3 Manual height adjustment for front seats
    seat heater 4A3 seat heating for front seats separat controlable
    Safety head restraint system 3K1 with safety head restraint system
    Side lights 7R4 Side marker lamps and turn signal repeaters (turn signals with white lens)
    Horns 8Y1 Two-tone horn
    Side and rear windows 4KC Side and rear windows in heat-insulating glass
    Protective side molding 4B2 Body-colored protective side molding
    Sunroof roller blind for rear/side windows 3Y0 without roller blind
    Supertone system and tone sequence control 9J0 Without supertone system and tone sequence control
    power outlet 7B2 12 volt socket in luggage compartment
    Bumper 2JG bumper in color of vehicle
    Rear stabilizer bar 0BF Rear stabilizer bar
    Front stabilizer bar 0AE Front stabilizer bar
    Drawers under front seats QN0 Without drawers under front seats
    Heavy-duty/sports version 2UC Sports version
    Headlamp washer system 8X1 Headlamp washer system
    Windshield wiper intermittent control/ light/rain sensor 8N4 Windshield wiper intermittent control with potentiometer (four speeds)
    Nameplate set 0NH Nameplate set "GTI"
    Special alarm systems 9A0 Without taxi alarm system
    Door storage compartments in front 3YR Door pockets with insert mats
    Mass damper for steering wheels 1Q0 steering wheel without balance weight
    Door and lid locking system 4K0 Central locking w/ radio remote control and interior controls
    Type approval countries/countries with special requirements B34 Legal requirements for USA
    Carrier frequency for remote control 5D2 Carrier frequency 315 MHz
    Partition 3CA without partition
    Door and side trim panels 3LJ Door and side trim panel in foam film, insert in leatherette
    doors 0A1 2 doors
    TV reception/digital radio reception QV8 Satellite radio reception NAR
    Front underbody guard 1SA Without additional front underbody guard
    Identification plates 1EB without identification plate
    Delivery equipment 2A8 Delivery equipment, water border
    First aid kit / warning triangle 1T0 Without first aid kit and warning triangle
    Two-way radio installation preparation 9D0 without prepared for two way radio system
    Preparation for rotating beacon/siren combination 9F0 Without preparation for rotating beacon/siren combination
    Telephone / telematics 9W0 Without car phone preparation/ installation
    Additional warning lights 9TC Additional retro-reflectors (door area)
    LongLife Service Regime QG0 without service interval extension
    Heat accumulator system/auxiliary heater 7E0 W/o heat accumulator/auxiliary heating
    Windshield Glass 4GF Windshield in heat-insulating glass
    Washer fluid level indicator 8W1 Washer fluid level indicator
    Additional tires (snow tires) 2WA without spare tyre
    floor mats 0TD Front and rear floor mats
    Additional body panels, side 6EA Without additional side body covers (stone guard)
    Additional child seat anchors 3B7 Child seat anchors as per Canadian requirements a. ISOFIX child seat system
    Auxiliary heating system 9M0 Without auxiliary heater/parking heater
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    Quote Originally Posted by drdfblackm View Post
    From the short bit of research I have done the vagcom cable I have from Ross-Tech will allow me to reprogram everything but really want to be 100% sure before I start going down this rabbi thole.
    Nope, not without the security ("PIN") codes for both your car and the donor car.

    Quote Originally Posted by drdfblackm View Post
    I understand I can disable my immobilizer using Vagcom.
    Nope. As Jack already stated, VCDS cannot disable an immobilizer.

    I'm a bit confused though. If your immobilizer is "bad", how is it you're driving this car?

    I would send the cluster out to someone (like Jack) to see if it can't be rehabilitated, and maybe send the ECU along for the ride in case the most expedient fix is kill the immobilizer.

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    If your other key works fine and car start and drive , then Dealer really selling you stuff that you need.

    First we need to know do you have Flip key at all or your car has only regular(valet ) key, and you want to add flip key ?

    VCDS can not program neither cluster or key o your car . I have done test many times and never worked, Some early Mk5 are able to work with VCDS but later modes 2007+ are not .
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    Uwe,

    I thought my offer was extremely fair and a far cry from $1100 USD, no?

    I'm still trying to understand really what is going on here and the purpose of all the OP's recent repair history and requests that don't really comport?

    Marin,

    Respectfully VCDS can add factory keys if a pin is had far past 2007 and if Immobilizer is functional now, there is no reason for keys straight, flip/switch blade key types to not be added unless the cluster is in a state of damage or tampered causing such damage.

    I'd be more interested in the dealers written diagnosis posted and then sent to me to verify and possibly beat them with my very large stick if they are full of BS!
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    I am driving with the valet key.

    I ordered a flip key from the dealer.

    From the dealer "Your vehicle can't have a new key programmed as it is in need of an immobilizer replacement that would cost 1108.51." My understanding is the immobilizer is in the instrument cluster and it is not functioning correctly.

    I am merely trying to add a factory flip key as I am currently driving on the valet key (I apologize if that was not clear from the beginning). That is all.....nothing more. It could be the dealer is trying to sell me something I don't need but for as long of a history as I have with the dealer I don't believe so. But I could be wrong. I know the tech working on the vehicle pretty well. Maybe he doesn't know what he is doing? He has been a VW tech for 25+ years so I think he knows, but again not sure how well he knows this particular stuff. I do appreciate Jack offering to beat them with a very large stick.....that's awesome!!!!

    Jack, I am not sure what your offer is when you say "How about we just disable the immobilizer in cluster and ECU and for donation you specify plus freight with valid credentials submitted with your auto-scan?" I understand you are saying just disable the immobilizer in the cluster and ECU.....just don't understand for donation and the remainder. It appears you have a long history of working with people here and I would be more than willing work with you in order to get this sorted.

    As far as swapping the instrument cluster, I was referring to this thread....I am still trying to decipher it but sounds like it is possible, but again...I am completely new at this stuff:
    https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/i...?topic=22846.0

    As for me I have many many years of working on my own stuff, even previous GTIs and TDIs....however....I will 100% admit I have only worked on the mechanical aspects of the cars....suspension, turbo, fuel system etc....never the VAGCOM system....this is all new to me so please forgive my ignorance.

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    I'm not at all dismissing your tech's diagnosis, which is why I offered removal as an alternate for "donation" plus freight since $1100 USD is steep, right?

    Now if we can marry the dealer supplied flip key..... great, however, that would prove the latter?

    If the cluster is FUBAR and verified sodomized FOD, that would prove your tech correct, right?

    On a car that exceeds mechanical limits by 10 years by most States anyway, who wants to be on the side of road because the Immobilizer D2 or cluster decided to leave you stranded at the Walmart parking lot?
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