Immobilizer/gauge replacement

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Immobilizer/gauge issues

Well the "flying turd" is at the VW dealer for a few things....mainly getting a real VW flip key. I was told the immobilizer is bad and it would be $1100 to replace it. Well this is a cheap daily driver. I know I can just keep driving with the plain non flip key, but I like the VW key. I know it has been and can be done, but I wanted to ask about buying a used gauge cluster and putting it in my 2007 GTI. Do I just buy a MK5 GTI gauge cluster or do I need to know more info?

From the short bit of research I have done the vagcom cable I have from Ross-Tech will allow me to reprogram everything but really want to be 100% sure before I start going down this rabbi thole.

I appreciate the help in advance.
 
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[h=2]Immobilizer/gauge replacement[/h]
Well the "flying turd" is at the VW dealer for a few things....mainly getting a real VW flip key. I was told the immobilizer is bad and it would be $1100 to replace it. Well this is a cheap daily driver. I know I can just keep driving with the plain non flip key, but I like the VW key. I know it has been and can be done, but I wanted to ask about buying a used gauge cluster and putting it in my 2007 GTI. Do I just buy a MK5 GTI gauge cluster or do I need to know more info?

From the short bit of research I have done the vagcom cable I have from Ross-Tech will allow me to reprogram everything but really want to be 100% sure before I start going down this rabbi thole.

I appreciate the help in advance.​


How about we just disable the immobilizer in cluster and ECU and for donation you specify plus freight with valid credentials submitted with your auto-scan?

Than did you know the keys dont matter as long as they fit the lock the car starts provided the alarm disarmed & would still work too & as it did before providing it is actually functional and a separate system?
 
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Not exactly sure what you are saying in your post.

I understand I can disable my immobilizer using Vagcom. But the whole point of my post is I want to be able to use a VW flip key that has lock and unlock buttons. I am told my immobilizer is defective in my GTI, which I do believe because I know pretty much everyone at the dealer and have dealt with them for many years. I understand the regular key will function as normal as it does right now, it locks and unlocks the vehicle and starts the vehicle as I have been driving it.

Still wanting to know if I can buy a used instrument cluster, swap into my MK5 GTI and recode to my current vehicle. As I said I have been researching and it appears it is possible but I want more specific information as to do I have to worry about which cluster I buy or will any MK5 cluster work. Is there a detailed write-up on doing a replacement?

Thank you for all the information.
 
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Not exactly sure what you are saying in your post.

I understand I can disable my immobilizer using Vagcom. But the whole point of my post is I want to be able to use a VW flip key that has lock and unlock buttons. I am told my immobilizer is defective in my GTI, which I do believe because I know pretty much everyone at the dealer and have dealt with them for many years. I understand the regular key will function as normal as it does right now, it locks and unlocks the vehicle and starts the vehicle as I have been driving it.

Still wanting to know if I can buy a used instrument cluster, swap into my MK5 GTI and recode to my current vehicle. As I said I have been researching and it appears it is possible but I want more specific information as to do I have to worry about which cluster I buy or will any MK5 cluster work. Is there a detailed write-up on doing a replacement?

Thank you for all the information.


First off VCDS cant disable an immobilizer...... :p

Don't you know that flip key function for central locking/alarm are separate from immobilizer, nor contained in it requiring unilateral function?

Sounds like your immobilizer works as specified, why not just add a key with VCDS & provided you have a valid PIN?

Did you know additional remotes can be married without VCDS too and are not related to Immobilizer?

Did you know lawfully you can not swap a cluster into another vehicle & that has a different conformity, unless the part number is detailed in microfiche or configurable to do so since the MIL resides in it?

You could always start with using the RTFB and microfiche to check cross overs but that sounds like you need to take yourself and this thread to retrofits or tweaks because what you ask & with data provided is not a qualified repair?

$1100 USD repair sounds unfair no?

Offer withdrawn in 24 hours if not authenticated by PM and contact form & triangulated.

Please Post an auto-scan.......
 
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Vehicle Identification No.WVWEV71K17W058934
ModelRabbit GTI
GO
Date of production29.08.2006
Model year2007
Sales type1K19V2
Engine CodeBPY
Transmission CodeJLW


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WARNING TPMS MIL appears disabled tampered!

FOD CHECK TO COMMENCE!


Code:
Sunday,29,March,2020,12:37:35:23322
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWEV71K17W058934   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65

VIN: WVWEV71K17W058934   Mileage: 213780km-132836miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 1010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0001
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 H    HW: 8P0 907 115 B  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
   Revision: 5BH14---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8079630
   Coding: 0403010A18070160
   Shop #: WSC 65728 1018 854933
   VCID: 2B0301691F0081FF4C7-807E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 73B3D90987B0993FC47-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 044 BJ
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0909  
   Revision: 00090016    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D605F6A6A227395-8024

1 Fault Found:
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) 
            000 - - - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000006003607
   Coding: B78F8F21400415000014000000140000001D770B5C0000
   Shop #: WSC 08319 444 84786
   VCID: 372B2D19D348351F38F-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 200706 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 08319  

8 Faults Found:
01593 - Heated Windshield (Z2) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 121
                    Reset counter: 193
                    Mileage: 211269 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01064 - Terminal 58d; Interior Dimming 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 69
                    Reset counter: 167
                    Mileage: 212637 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.00 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01800 - Light Switch (E1) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 185
                    Mileage: 213010 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.30 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 211221 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 211221 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.30 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01495 - Bulb for High-Beams; Left (M30) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 211220 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.45 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01499 - Bulb for High-Beams; Right (M32) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 33
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 211220 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.45 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 185
                    Mileage: 213010 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 F    HW: 8E0 035 593 F
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H03 0120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7F1029378
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2C0102751A0E86C745D-8078

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 213721 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:28:01


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 5L AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0661WZ  
   Coding: 0013644
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 6C81C275DA8E46C705D-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME156B5B46K

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME12267E0AE

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME127B030DE

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME10331F39D

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME0A5F05746

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0A5F077BG

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AJ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AJ
   Component: J0527           034 0070  
   Coding: 0002022
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 7AADF42DA0DAE877871-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 A    HW: 1K6 920 973 A <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD PASS!
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8079630
   Coding: 0005107
   Shop #: WSC 65536 645 97773
   VCID: 313F13013D2CEB2F76B-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 3100106714082B
   Coding: 7D8F03000F004000
   Shop #: WSC 24313 444 999999
   VCID: 2C0102751A0E86C745D-8078

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 211209 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:21:56

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 185
                    Mileage: 213010 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 13:03:30


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 919 879     HW: 1K6 919 879 
   Component: Kompass         001 0002  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223T1HLL02
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7DA7FF31B1F4DF4FA23-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 973 A    HW: 1K6 920 973 A
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F8079630
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 313F13013D2CEB2F76B-8064

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 67433 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:25:33


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0967  
   Coding: 0001077
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 38292E25DE563A67315-806C

2 Faults Found:
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 34311A15C23EDE071DD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0215  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 139006885103083F6D04058FB0080A04889C00
   Shop #: WSC 08319 444 84786
   VCID: 74B1DA1582BE9E07DDD-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

2 Faults Found:
00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 111
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 211220 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:27:48

01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 185
                    Mileage: 213010 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 13:05:19


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0967  
   Coding: 0001076
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 392F2B21E55C236FCEB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74B1DA1582BE9E07DDD-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
   Component: Radio PM6       017 0019  
   Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7F2086914
   Coding: 0040401
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2411EA5572DE4E878DD-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
   Component:    RDK              0420  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 74B1DA1582BE9E07DDD-8020

1 Fault Found:
01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 66
                    Mileage: 211773 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 05:54:34


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Code:
Special editionsE0AWithout special action equipment
Lockable wheel bolts1PCWheel bolts with anti-theft protection (unlockable)
Vehicle class differentiation units/platform components0HAVehicle class differentiation -1K0-
tail pipe0P1Rear side exhaust tailpipe
Hill start assistUG0Without hill start assist/hill descent control/comfort driving assist
Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2
Trailer hitch1D0Without trailer hitch
airbag4UMDriver's and front passenger air bag, NAR with front passenger air bag deactivation (2-stage) - SMART airbag with automatic deactivation
Aktivkohlebehälter / Ottopartikelfilter1E4Activated carbon canister (ORVR) and siphoning device for fueling
Aerials8ZHAntenna for AM/FM reception, "diversity"
Exterior mirror setting6XNExterior mirrors, power-adjustable/ separately heated
Left exterior mirror5SHLeft exterior mirror, flat (US)
Right exterior mirror5RRRight exterior mirror, convex (US)
Drive type1X0Front-wheel drive
"Multimedia"video/DVD/notebook connection9WLJack for external audio source
Equipment levelsA8HTop sports equipment
Brake type in rear1KVDisc brakes in rear (Geomet D)
batteriesJ1LBattery 280 A (60 Ah)
Brake type, front1LVDisc brakes in front
Components with special surface6FFExterior mirror housing and various attachments colour coded to vehicle
Battery/alternator capacityNY0Standard battery/alternator capacity
Component part sets with country-specific design requirementsB0DComponent parts set, complying with vehicle type for USA (without California), various parts
vehicle tools and jack1S1vehicle tools and jack
Brake systems1ATElectronic stability control (ESC)
Owner's manuals0VMInformation kit in American English
Operating voltage9Z0Operating voltage 12 V
Brake pad wear indicator9U1Brake pad wear indicator
Heated washer nozzles9T1Heated washer nozzles in front
CD ROM/DVD/SD card7QAWithout CD/DVD for navigation
CD changer/CD player7A0Without CD changer/CD player
Chrome packageQJ0Without aluminum/chrome work package
General operating permit, alterationsC16Operating permit, alteration
Roof rails/roof load rack3S0Without roof rails/roof load rack
Roof insert/convertible top3FETilting and sliding glass sunroof with sunbshade
Suspension system in rear1JHRear shock absorption
Suspension system in frontG11Shock absorption in front
Load-through hatch/ski bag3X0without load through system
Insert for the filling up of unleaded fuel/fuel type2G7Filler neck module 1 with insert
Installation differentiation for components0ENInstallation differentiation for transmission MQ 350 -- vehicle components --
Theft protection system7AGElectronic immobilizer with anti-theft alarm system (for USA)
Inserts5MDDecorative aluminum inserts
Scuff plates7M6Protective film for scuff plate
Park distance control7X0Without park distance control
Electric interface for external useUF0Without electric interface
Manufacturing sequence differentiation0FAStandard manufacturing sequence
window regulator4R4Power windows with comfort operation and circuit breaker
fire extinguisher6A0without fire extinguisher
Pedestrian protectionVL0Without extended pedestrian protection measures
Pedal clusterVF1pedal cluster
Headlight activation8K4Separate daytime running light -- NAR --
Vehicle specificationsF0ANo special purpose vehicle, standard equipment
Alternators8GUAlternator 140 A
Weight category rear axle0YCWeight range 3 installation control only, no requirement forecast
Weight category front axleL35Suspension range 35 installation control only, no requirement forecast
Base engineT594-cylinder SI engine 2.0 l unit 06F.C
Luggage netting/pocket on backrest(s)4U5Luggage pockets on backrest
Luggage compartment cover3U1Folding trunk cover
cruise control system8T2Electronic cruise control system (CCS)
Garage door openerVC0without Garage door opener
Luggage compartment trim5A7Comfort luggage compartment trim with service lid/snap-on cover
Transmission specificationsG0K6-speed manual transmission
Brackets3P0Without bracket for first aid kit and warning triangle
handle for hand brake lever6PCHand brake lever handle in leather
Rear spoiler5J4Body-colored rear spoiler
Rear window wiper and washer system8M1Rear window wiper washer system with intermittent wipe
Rear seats3NURear bench seat, not split, split backrest, folding centre armrest
Heating and air-conditioning system9AKClimatronic with impact pressure control, CFC-free
Headlamps8JFTwin headlamps for driving on the right (gas discharge) w/ integrated high beam (US design)
Customized installationFC0Without customized installation
Interior light in footwell6T1Interior light in footwell
Instrument clustersU5CInstrument cluster, mph speedometer - USA -
Breakaway interior rearview mirror4L2Breakaway interior rearview mirror, dimming
Sticker (customized or special edition)0KAWithout decals and emblems
Body styleK8GHatchback
Cassette and CD storage unit4W0without cassette / CD tray
Refrigerator1W2Glove compartment cooling system
Electronic map cooling systemQS0Without electronic map cooling system
Child seatsQA0without child seat
Climatic zones0Y3Cold zones
Compass/road sign displayQR1With compass
Rear head restraints3Q6Three rear head restraints
Head restraints5ZHHead restraints for front seats, tilt- and height-adjustable with integrated adjustment mechanism
Fuel tank treatment2LCFuel tank with special material treatment (coextrusion)
Fuel quantity for initial filling1Z2Increase in initial standard fuel filling
Fuel systems1A5Petrol injector fuel system (FSI)
Body measures5C1Body measures for increased safety requirements
Child seat anchors in front3G0Without child seat anchora in front (ISOFIX)
Rear license plate carrier6P2Rear license plate carrier (NAR)
Front license plate carrier6W3Front license plate carrier (small, NAR)
Paint preservative/transit coating5K0with no paint conversation
Paint coatingFB0standard paint coating
Rear cargo area3GAWithout luggage compartment floor
Steering system arrangementL0LLeft-hand drive
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Load edge protection2P1Plastic loading edge protection
Lumbar support7P1Power-adjustable lumbar support in front seats
steering wheels2FNLeather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel with decorative aluminum inserts
Speaker installation8RW10 speakers (passive)
Headlight range control8Q3Dynamic headlight range control (self-adjusting while driving)
Center armrest6E3Center armrest in front
Multi-function display/trip computer9Q5Multi-function display with control
Engine cooling8Z6Hot country
Engine specificationsD2L4-cylinder petrol engine 2.0 L/147 KW (16 V) Turbo FSI, homogeneous Basic engine is: T59/T61/TQ2/TU2/TD6/TN6
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Platform group class7PAPlatform group class 1
Hubcaps1NLTrims for alloy wheels
WheelsCQ4Alloy wheels 7.5J x 18
Radios8USRadio "Premium" (double-size standard radio)
Smoker's/non-smoker's package9JANon smoker version
Tire pressure monitoring system7K4Tire pressure monitoring system 315 MHz High
tireH7DTires 225/40 R18 92Y xl
Tire suppliersV0ATires without specification of tire brand
Spare wheel/breakdown kit1G1Space-saving spare wheel
Restraint systems, front4QQ3-point seat belts in front with pretensioner and height adjustment, US label
P02Package 2 GTI NAR
PJZGTI 18-inch wheel and tire package
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Gearshift knob/handle6Q6Gearshift knob/handle in aluminum
Special labels/plates0SSLabels in English and French
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Front seat, right3SUSports seat in front, right
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Center rear seat belts3C83-point seat belt, center rear with US label
seat coversN7FSeat trim covers in part-leather, embossed leather
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seat heater4A3seat heating for front seats separat controlable
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Side lights7R4Side marker lamps and turn signal repeaters (turn signals with white lens)
Horns8Y1Two-tone horn
Side and rear windows4KCSide and rear windows in heat-insulating glass
Protective side molding4B2Body-colored protective side molding
Sunroof roller blind for rear/side windows3Y0without roller blind
Supertone system and tone sequence control9J0Without supertone system and tone sequence control
power outlet7B212 volt socket in luggage compartment
Bumper2JGbumper in color of vehicle
Rear stabilizer bar0BFRear stabilizer bar
Front stabilizer bar0AEFront stabilizer bar
Drawers under front seatsQN0Without drawers under front seats
Heavy-duty/sports version2UCSports version
Headlamp washer system8X1Headlamp washer system
Windshield wiper intermittent control/ light/rain sensor8N4Windshield wiper intermittent control with potentiometer (four speeds)
Nameplate set0NHNameplate set "GTI"
Special alarm systems9A0Without taxi alarm system
Door storage compartments in front3YRDoor pockets with insert mats
Mass damper for steering wheels1Q0steering wheel without balance weight
Door and lid locking system4K0Central locking w/ radio remote control and interior controls
Type approval countries/countries with special requirementsB34Legal requirements for USA
Carrier frequency for remote control5D2Carrier frequency 315 MHz
Partition3CAwithout partition
Door and side trim panels3LJDoor and side trim panel in foam film, insert in leatherette
doors0A12 doors
TV reception/digital radio receptionQV8Satellite radio reception NAR
Front underbody guard1SAWithout additional front underbody guard
Identification plates1EBwithout identification plate
Delivery equipment2A8Delivery equipment, water border
First aid kit / warning triangle1T0Without first aid kit and warning triangle
Two-way radio installation preparation9D0without prepared for two way radio system
Preparation for rotating beacon/siren combination9F0Without preparation for rotating beacon/siren combination
Telephone / telematics9W0Without car phone preparation/ installation
Additional warning lights9TCAdditional retro-reflectors (door area)
LongLife Service RegimeQG0without service interval extension
Heat accumulator system/auxiliary heater7E0W/o heat accumulator/auxiliary heating
Windshield Glass4GFWindshield in heat-insulating glass
Washer fluid level indicator8W1Washer fluid level indicator
Additional tires (snow tires)2WAwithout spare tyre
floor mats0TDFront and rear floor mats
Additional body panels, side6EAWithout additional side body covers (stone guard)
Additional child seat anchors3B7Child seat anchors as per Canadian requirements a. ISOFIX child seat system
Auxiliary heating system9M0Without auxiliary heater/parking heater
 
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From the short bit of research I have done the vagcom cable I have from Ross-Tech will allow me to reprogram everything but really want to be 100% sure before I start going down this rabbi thole.
Nope, not without the security ("PIN") codes for both your car and the donor car.

I understand I can disable my immobilizer using Vagcom.
Nope. As Jack already stated, VCDS cannot disable an immobilizer.

I'm a bit confused though. If your immobilizer is "bad", how is it you're driving this car?

I would send the cluster out to someone (like Jack) to see if it can't be rehabilitated, and maybe send the ECU along for the ride in case the most expedient fix is kill the immobilizer.

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If your other key works fine and car start and drive , then Dealer really selling you stuff that you need.

First we need to know do you have Flip key at all or your car has only regular(valet ) key, and you want to add flip key ?

VCDS can not program neither cluster or key o your car . I have done test many times and never worked, Some early Mk5 are able to work with VCDS but later modes 2007+ are not .
 
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Uwe,

I thought my offer was extremely fair and a far cry from $1100 USD, no?

I'm still trying to understand really what is going on here and the purpose of all the OP's recent repair history and requests that don't really comport?

Marin,

Respectfully VCDS can add factory keys if a pin is had far past 2007 and if Immobilizer is functional now, there is no reason for keys straight, flip/switch blade key types to not be added unless the cluster is in a state of damage or tampered causing such damage.

I'd be more interested in the dealers written diagnosis posted and then sent to me to verify and possibly beat them with my very large stick if they are full of BS!
 
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I am driving with the valet key.

I ordered a flip key from the dealer.

From the dealer "Your vehicle can't have a new key programmed as it is in need of an immobilizer replacement that would cost 1108.51." My understanding is the immobilizer is in the instrument cluster and it is not functioning correctly.

I am merely trying to add a factory flip key as I am currently driving on the valet key (I apologize if that was not clear from the beginning). That is all.....nothing more. It could be the dealer is trying to sell me something I don't need but for as long of a history as I have with the dealer I don't believe so. But I could be wrong. I know the tech working on the vehicle pretty well. Maybe he doesn't know what he is doing? He has been a VW tech for 25+ years so I think he knows, but again not sure how well he knows this particular stuff. I do appreciate Jack offering to beat them with a very large stick.....that's awesome!!!!

Jack, I am not sure what your offer is when you say "How about we just disable the immobilizer in cluster and ECU and for donation you specify plus freight with valid credentials submitted with your auto-scan?" I understand you are saying just disable the immobilizer in the cluster and ECU.....just don't understand for donation and the remainder. It appears you have a long history of working with people here and I would be more than willing work with you in order to get this sorted.

As far as swapping the instrument cluster, I was referring to this thread....I am still trying to decipher it but sounds like it is possible, but again...I am completely new at this stuff:
https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=22846.0

As for me I have many many years of working on my own stuff, even previous GTIs and TDIs....however....I will 100% admit I have only worked on the mechanical aspects of the cars....suspension, turbo, fuel system etc....never the VAGCOM system....this is all new to me so please forgive my ignorance.
 
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I'm not at all dismissing your tech's diagnosis, which is why I offered removal as an alternate for "donation" plus freight since $1100 USD is steep, right?

Now if we can marry the dealer supplied flip key..... great, however, that would prove the latter?

If the cluster is FUBAR and verified sodomized FOD, that would prove your tech correct, right?

On a car that exceeds mechanical limits by 10 years by most States anyway, who wants to be on the side of road because the Immobilizer D2 or cluster decided to leave you stranded at the Walmart parking lot?
 
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Now I follow you Jack.

I didn't think you were dismissing the tech....but most will assume the dealer is trying to rip you off.....and I would agree in most cases, but I do trust this dealer but I am not sure what can or will go wrong with the immobilizer. I bought this particular car because it has a very good history of maintenance....though it needs to be caught up. The vehicle has never been in a accident according to Carfax....which is not the all knowing god of vehicle history but a very good start....there doesn't appear to be any major flaws with the car.

And I certainly do not want to be stranded because I bought this for my commuter vehicle (100 miles round trip daily).

I appreciate all the help!!!!!
 
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Please send PM and to commence triangulation of your identity + by contact form at website. All human race papers correlated to vehicle proof of your custodial control path credentials.

I don't do anything without it and clock is ticking as aforementioned.
 
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Has anyone ever wondered why the Immobilizer function is separate from the Alarm systems in almost all vehicles for VAG since the early 90's with exception of Kessy?

Could it be true that with such Majestic clearances held and alleged memo's obtained, that if Government's were to find that the Immobilizer was an unjust enrichment scheme & that required immediate removal, it is by preplanned design to be with a flip of a bit to shut it all off by tester & by login DMA?

Bet you all didn't know that could be true, huh?

Remember, I know where all the bodies are buried so be careful, okay, you wouldn't think I'd be without a blacklist contingency would you?

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PM replied with first security hurdle, please commence............ :rolleyes:
 
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Email replied to with request for credentials and range of other services should you wish to take advantage of any of them after authenticated.
 
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New information from the tech:

"The computer has a fault that prevents from coding any further, it will continue to recognize an old key but not allow any new coding. Procedure is to either replace the instrument cluster which has the module or to manually manipulate the module"

Not sure what this means but maybe one of you can understand.

I have been in contact with Jack
 
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Time extensive granted for extenuated circumstance abscess!

Monday next week.

Sure does sound like an improper key part number was ordered in parts or the transponder was negated to be pre coded by some schmuck at GeKo department, did you know those guys mess up frequently?

So what part number is on new key forward section for transponder not remote section, please advise and post a photo?

This is why we JPPSG!

Also ask what the bit status is of alleged key for lock bit in VCDS advanced measuring blocks?
 
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