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    Key adaptation not working after BCM upgrade from 087J to 090E/189

    2014 vw jetta TDI came with a 086J BCM and I upgraded it to a 087J without any problems. The remotes paired as per rosstech's website via vcds. I recently installed a 090E BCM and I tried pairing the remotes again, and could not get the same procedure to work and even tried the manual way of pairing. It still didn't work. I thought, well, maybe after I have the newer instrument cluster installed and the new canbus wires added, the problem will rectify itself. Well, no, it didn't. Manual way does nothing. When I try through VCDS, it acts like its going to work, but when I set it to adapt a key, VCDS reports lost communications to the BCM. I tried 2 BCM's, one is a 090E, and the other is a 189. They both do the exact same thing. Is there something else I need to do? Everything else works fine with the car. Ignore the Info-mation system error, since I have a hardware fix on the radio. Also ignore the telephone error, I just need to pull that module out. Terminal 30 errors I am familiar with what I need to do, but would like to tackle the remotes first, unless, of course, the Terminal 30 errors are causing my problem? I doubt it though.

    This is the dump from a good working 087J BCM:

    Code:
    Wednesday,25,March,2020,16:39:13:43477
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 001 00001 000001
    
    VIN: 3VW3L7AJ3EM384376   License Plate: BCM 087 SCAN
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 77
    
    VIN: 3VW3L7AJ3EM384376   
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 997 030 N    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
       Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000SG  9983  
       Revision: 12H16---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0050072
       Shop #: WSC 74291 008 00000
       VCID: 3957DC5570F04787A2-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: A14B400C492A00FE850E02EB921F0042A71000
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: 7DDF0845E458BBA7CE-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BA    HW: 5C0 820 047 BA
       Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
       Revision: 2001012S    Serial number: 00000001832383
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 60E15131B3EA764FC5-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
       Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411  
       Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013124140417
       Coding: 7B994B3808AB0B0000382600240804D400C2502E60004000300010002000
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: 3449ED619792BAEF71-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
       Serial number: 14202584130919072258
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
       Serial number: 0005616 FLE 20130910
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
       Serial number: 14202587130910161739
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
       Serial number: 14102586130918162601
       Coding: 800000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 71
                        Mileage: 56353 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2061.14.24
                        Time: 00:46:55
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
       Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912  
       Serial number: 003MVD01EHL-  
       Coding: 00004138
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 74C92D61DF12FAEFB1-8020
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
       Serial number: 6940000Y130000YG350T
       Coding: 303036
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME6813067DZZZ.
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME3C20327CZZZZ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3516KSME48524227ZZZN
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3526KSME03144127ZZZC
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3556LSME65025328ZZZP
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3566LSME31355328ZZZP
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0411  
       Revision: B2034001    
       Coding: 102200
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: 70C12171A30AC6CF55-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0809  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AF533198DD63C1F1B-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 3957DC5570F04787A2-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
       Component: TELEFON       H05 0315  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665111546
       Coding: 0A10030081010110
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
       ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
       VCID: 2E7DFF0971BE903F07-807A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    9455635 - Telephone Microphone 
              B1048 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 71
                        Mileage: 56353 km
                        Date: 2061.14.24
                        Time: 00:10:41
    
    9457170 - Right audio channel for speech/telephone 
              B104E 12 [009] - Short to GND
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 71
                        Mileage: 56353 km
                        Date: 2061.14.24
                        Time: 00:10:39
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:43)--------------------------
    Here is the dump from the 189 BCM

    Code:
    Thursday,02,April,2020,14:47:56:43477
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 001 00001 000001
    
    VIN: 3VW3L7AJ3EM384376   License Plate: NEW BCM 
    Mileage: 56400km-35045mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7E0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 5F 77
    
    VIN: 3VW3L7AJ3EM384376   Mileage: 56400km-35045miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 997 030 N    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
       Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000SG  9983  
       Revision: 12H16---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0050072
       Shop #: WSC 74291 008 00000
       VCID: 3957DC5570F04787A2-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: A14B400C492A00FE850E02EB921F0042A71000
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: 7DDF0845E458BBA7CE-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BA    HW: 5C0 820 047 BA
       Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
       Revision: 2001012S    Serial number: 00000001832383
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 60E15131B3EA764FC5-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 937 189     HW: 7E0 937 189 
       Component: BCM PQ25 MMI3 H80 0736  
       Revision: BA080001    Serial number: 18007065160193
       Coding: 7B994F3808AB0B0000382600240884C40082502E60000000300050002000
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: 71C72475A800CFC75A-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
       Serial number: 14202585130923125249
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
       Serial number: 14202584130919072258
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
       Serial number: 0005616 FLE 20130910
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
       Serial number: 14202587130910161739
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
       Serial number: 14102586130918162601
       Coding: 800000
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:43:31
    
    00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:43:31
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
       Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912  
       Serial number: 003MVD01EHL-  
       Coding: 00004138
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 74C92D61DF12FAEFB1-8020
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
       Serial number: 6940000Y130000YG350T
       Coding: 303036
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME6813067DZZZ.
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME3C20327CZZZZ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3516KSME48524227ZZZN
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3526KSME03144127ZZZC
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3556LSME65025328ZZZP
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3566LSME31355328ZZZP
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5C6 920 974 F    HW: 5C6 920 974 F
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0808  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 271A01
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 334BEE7D9A9CBDD768-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 189 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0736  
       Revision: BA080001    
       Coding: 102200
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: 68F149119BDA0E0F0D-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0808  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00119
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AF533198DD63C1F1B-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 3957DC5570F04787A2-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 035 684     HW: 5C0 035 684 
       Component: MU-S-NS-US    H22 0245  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2S0003962
       Coding: 026301023C00000001220001001808001F0100D400200105C6
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
       VCID: 62E55B3975E6645FD3-8036
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 B    HW: -----------
       Component: NAR 2015/16  --- 0220 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    3 Faults Found:
    15360768 - Component Protection 
              U1101 00 [009] - Active
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:46:43
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
    
    2565 - GPS Antenna 
              B1054 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:46:43
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
    
    7223 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:46:46
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
                        BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
       Component: TELEFON       H05 0315  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665111546
       Coding: 0A10030081010110
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
       ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
       VCID: 2E7DFF0971BE903F07-807A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    9455635 - Telephone Microphone 
              B1048 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:46:57
    
    9457170 - Right audio channel for speech/telephone 
              B104E 12 [009] - Short to GND
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 181
                        Mileage: 56401 km
                        Date: 2020.04.02
                        Time: 02:46:56
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:16)--------------------------

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    so nobody knows? or anybody care to help?

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    Are your BCMs and keys all 315MHz? New or used replacement BCM? Factory mode off?

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    If You're missing power to pins of bcm, I'm not suprised it doesn't function 100%.
    I am a VW Freak - Le WV Freaks OR Come visit me at my work with ODIS concerns - FORSS ODIS GeKo/FaZit access for VW/AUDI/Škoda
    The world is my oyster...

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    Agree, but these open circuits only apply to the lighting so central locking should be OK

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    I acquired this info from a vw polo website which was posted by those with european cars:

    "BCMs with 434 MHz radio carrier frequency ends with the letters B, D, F, H, K, M, P, R, T. Pick up one of these if you are looking to upgrade. These BCMs are used in India, EU, South Africa and Russia."

    So all others, I'm assuming is NAR. The bcm came from a NAR car, so its safe to assume its at 315Mhz, the keys are stamped 315Mhz also. Not sure about the 189 bcm, because it doesn't have a letter at the end of its part number, so I'm in the process of acquiring another 090E bcm. I haven't seen versions 90 or higher with anything other than E? Since the 2 bcm's behave exactly the same, I doubt the replacement bcm will help. These bcm's are used, so that is suspect.

    Thanks for the help.

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    7E0 937 090 E is for 433mhz

    and you are wrong thinking "other index" is NAR
    All other index can be India, or even discontinued item and ETKA not have them in history record
    if Etka show - is 433 = 1000000% is 433
    in a fact it exist in POLO, so never been in NAR , only "old land"

    Also - if you want install BCM after 2018 (accoriding to ETKA) remote key 50/50 will work
    from 2019 VW removed "remote match" via BCM
    Remote AND KEY is match automatic while Keylearn to cluster - yes - REMOTE and KEY (new cluster with new coding in immo 000002)
    for example VW T6 from 2018/2019
    Last edited by Spacewalker; 04-02-2020 at 12:56 AM.
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    Thanks for that info Spacewalker. The two BCM's that I have tried are 7H0937090E and 7E0937189, which came from NAR cars? If I am wrong thinking these are correct, could you point me in the right direction? What part numbers could I use? 2014 vw jetta tdi with cluster part # 5C6920974F.

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    I looked on ETKA and its saying all 090's are 434Mhz? If thats true, it might be easier to change my keys to 434Mhz and adapt them to the cluster.

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    Ok, the replacement BCM did it. Could of been the BCM was bad or something up with the coding. There is some differences in the coding, but I can't find any documentation to tell me what they are. I know in my vcds tool it tells me to NOT change them. Odd...

    one that didn't work:
    Code:
    7B994F3808AB0B0000382600240884C40082502E60000000300050002000
    one that worked
    Code:
    7B994B3808AB0B0000382600240884D500C2702E60004000300010002000
    I modified the new (used one) BCM with the least amount of settings to make it work. There are differences in the byte string that I'm suspecting change the frequency of the internal radio channel for the remotes. Not sure which one though. I encountered a multifunction steering wheel problem and a turn signal problem with the coding of the new BCM with those bytes that are undocumented, so i kept copying the old settings until it worked. The settings that didn't seem to have an effect, I reverted back. One thing I noticed was byte 18, on the one that didn't work was 50 and on the one that worked was 70. VCDS says to not change this, so I didn't. No idea what this was for. I'm suspecting this was the problem.


    Hope this helps someone who encounters something similar.
    Last edited by Uwe; 04-02-2020 at 03:19 PM. Reason: CODE tags 'cause the forum software otherwise inserts spurious blanks into long strings

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