2007 130 SHUTTLE BUS 2.5 5 Cylinder Cam position. "operation bring back to life"

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2007 130 SHUTTLE BUS 2.5 5 Cylinder Cam position. "operation bring back to life"

Hi Guys, First post having sold our T2 bay thought it would be a good idea to take on a non running T5 ..slowly working though all the bits that are non working.. now need a little help. After rebuilding the engine have a cam relation with crank..fine i thought easy timing out so take the front off to look ..yep its half a tooth out..using the locking tool , have a friend take a look he said i have not lined up the train gears with the crank ..before fitting the head..hmmm so remove the cam buckets and injectors so i can turn over to try and find the correct position ..after about an hour found a place where it lined up..woop woop..all back together its runs {just} when you turn it off its like the immobiliser is cutting off the engine.. when it is running the driver is very turbo lag..then whooh away you go. still reading ???.. help.. is there any way i can phase the cam using VCDS ? also would like to disarm the immobiliser if poss...john { thanks in advance }

THINGS DONE
new cam sensor..well two really
new crank sensor
lots of swearing and many cups of tea ...lol..

ps..why is it showing BPC as engine code as its a BNZ ??

Code:
Sunday,29,March,2020,12:08:30:62543
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   License Plate: HK
Mileage: 496710km-308641mi   Repair Order: 29.03.


Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
          57 6E 76 77 78 7D
 
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   Mileage: 496710km-308641miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 DS    HW: 070 906 016 DS
   Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
   Coding: 0001072
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184

3 Faults Found:
008581 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83) 
               P2185 - 000 - Signal too High
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 496719 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.62 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Temperature: 45.9°C
                    Temperature: 24.3°C

000833 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
               P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 496719 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 504 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Voltage: 11.17 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 3.0

012296 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
               P3008 - 000 - Signal Out of Range - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 496719 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 651 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Voltage: 11.63 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 35.0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 7H0-907-37x-ABS.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 S    HW: 7H0 907 379 S
   Component: (M)ABS MK25E        0103  
   Revision: 00H21001    
   Coding: 0000552
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 45D751C009BEA2DFBA3-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
   Component: CLIMA/AC            0303  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD3687B82488F20F-5160

2 Faults Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 937 049 T
   Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2001  
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 43D34FD8078A9CEF947-5160

2 Faults Found:
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0010  
   Coding: 13123
   Shop #: WSC 02756  
   VCID: 221DEA5CFDD0B5E7FF1-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 920 951 T
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
   Coding: 00413
   Shop #: WSC 77824  
   VCID: 3D273920646EEA1FE23-5160
   WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277     VWZ7Z0G5463049

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 815 071 F
   Component: Standheizung        0209  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B0307788F1A74AF4C7-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 02756  
   VCID: 70B9D01463BC5777395-5160

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 951 171 B
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    2920  
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 290FFD7085E666BFBEB-51F2

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H5 951 178 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    1607

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
   Component: C11 Komfortgerát     0004  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02756  
   VCID: 323D1A1CAD3025670F1-4B1E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 06:13, VBatt start/end: 14.6V/14.5V)-----------
 
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why is it showing BPC as engine code as its a BNZ ??
It's not, really. It's showing VCDS using a label file named "070-906-016-BPC". This means that the data for these two engines and ECUs was deemed "close enough" that it could be used for both.

Many newer ECUs actually do report the exact engine type, but this one doesn't (it's too old to do that).

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hi many thanks for taking time to reply, what do you think is my next move ??
 
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hi, anyone have any ideas ..??? please
 
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hi,, looking like its "take it apart"..3.7 BTDC looks a bit close. and now the wiper motor has come out in sympathy , last night my dream was to read "no faults found"

Code:
Tuesday,31,March,2020,15:33:21:62543
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   License Plate: HK
Mileage:    Repair Order: 31/03



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                Address 01: Engine  (070 906 016 DS)

15:33:07 Group 001: Injection Quantity
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  6.0 mg/str  Injection Quantity 
  7.1°KW  Injection Duration (specified)
  44.1°C  Coolant Temperature (G62)

15:33:07 Group 002: Idle Speed
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  0.0 %  Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
   0 01  0  Operation Status 
  44.1°C  Coolant Temperature (G62)

15:33:07 Group 003: Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  230.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (spec.)
  485.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (actual)
  100.6 %  Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 01: Engine  (070 906 016 DS)

15:34:36 Group 001: Injection Quantity
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  6.3 mg/str  Injection Quantity 
  7.1°KW  Injection Duration (specified)
  45.9°C  Coolant Temperature (G62)

15:34:36 Group 002: Idle Speed
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  0.0 %  Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
   0 01  0  Operation Status 
  45.9°C  Coolant Temperature (G62)

15:34:36 Group 003: Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  230.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (spec.)
  480.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (actual)
  100.6 %  Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle

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Readiness Status: 00000000 00000110 11100000 10100000
MIL Status: MIL OFF
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Failed or Incomplete
Number of EOBD-related DTC(s): 0



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                Address 01: Engine
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 DS
  Component and/or Version: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585
           Software Coding: 0001072
            Work Shop Code: WSC 80093
                      VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184

Advanced Identification
     Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
     Identification: BPG-810
     Revision: --H05---
     Date: 11.06.07
     Test stand number: 1329
     Manufacturer number: 0625
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts: 3
     Successful Attempts: 3
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Required Conditions: 00000001
     Flash Tool Code: 00032 257 66565
     Flash Date: 00.00.00
Software
     22.12
     TAYF   
Misc.
     Hardware number: 070 906 016 DS
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184
       Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.CLB
       Readiness: No script available


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                Address 01: Engine  (070 906 016 DS)

15:38:24 Group 005: Start Conditions (last Engine Start)
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  24.2 mg/str  Starting Torque 
  48.0  Start Synchronisation
  51.3°C  Coolant Temperature (G62)

15:38:24 Group 004: Unit Injector
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  3.7 °BTDC  Injection Start (specified)
  7.7°KW  Injection Duration (specified)
  0.0°KW  Torsion Value 

15:38:24 Group 001: Injection Quantity
  798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
  6.0 mg/str  Injection Quantity 
  7.1°KW  Injection Duration (specified)
  51.3°C  Coolant Temperature (G62)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Address 01: DTCs cleared
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Address 01: DTCs cleared
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Code:
Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
          57 6E 76 77 78 7D
 
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 DS    HW: 070 906 016 DS
   Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
   Coding: 0001072
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184

2 Faults Found:
000833 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
               P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 496719 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 777 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.52 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 48.0

008581 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83) 
               P2185 - 000 - Signal too High
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 496719 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 777 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.52 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Temperature: 51.3°C
                    Temperature: 34.2°C

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 7H0-907-37x-ABS.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 S    HW: 7H0 907 379 S
   Component: (M)ABS MK25E        0103  
   Revision: 00H21001    
   Coding: 0000552
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 45D751C009BEA2DFBA3-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
   Component: CLIMA/AC            0303  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD3687B82488F20F-5160

2 Faults Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 937 049 T
   Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2001  
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 43D34FD8078A9CEF947-5160

4 Faults Found:
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
00909 - Windshield Wiper Motor (V) Stage 1/2 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00077 - Windshield Wiper Stop Switch (F229) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

End----(Elapsed Time: 06:45, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/12.7V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 
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Hi All, Finally found my problem of having the cam gear half a tooth out from the mark.five cylinder 2.5 BNZ ...drum roll..you need to line up the gear train with the crank at TDC ,lock the crank into the block, fit the head mashing the intermediate using a eccentric shaft then line the cam gear with the top on the head lock the cam shaft then bolt the cam gear with the new diamond washer onto the camshaft, remove all the locks turn the engine over twice to check ..job done. ..

Next job is electrical.

Code:
Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
          57 6E 76 77 78 7D
 
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   Mileage: 496720km-308647miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 DS    HW: 070 906 016 DS
   Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
   Coding: 0001072
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 6491AC44A244FBDBD7A-5184

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 7H0-907-37x-ABS.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 S    HW: 7H0 907 379 S
   Component: (M)ABS MK25E        0103  
   Revision: 00H21001    
   Coding: 0000552
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 45D751C009BEA2D3204-5160

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 496721 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 6145
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
   Component: CLIMA/AC            0303  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD3687B824883BA8-5160

1 Fault Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 937 049 T
   Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2001  
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 43D34FD8078A9CE30E0-5160

1 Fault Found:
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0010  
   Coding: 13123
   Shop #: WSC 02756  
   VCID: 221DEA5CFDD0B5EB656-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 920 951 T
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
   Coding: 00413
   Shop #: WSC 77824  
   VCID: 3D273920646EEA13784-5160
   WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277     VWZ7Z0G5463049

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 815 071 F
   Component: Standheizung        0209  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B0307788F1A74A3D60-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 02756  
   VCID: 70B9D01463BC577BA32-5160

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 951 171 B
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    2920  
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 290FFD7085E666B324C-51CE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H5 951 178 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    1607

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
   Component: C11 Komfortgerát     0004  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02756  
   VCID: 323D1A1CAD30256B956-4B1E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:53, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/14.5V)-----------
 
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Next job is electrical.

so that was easy new earth from the ecu to the battery earth fixed that..

so now i have no faults .. other then the radio and air-con which are both disconnected

Just to say many thanks for all your help ..happy motoring {well after the lockdown} john
 
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