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    2007 130 SHUTTLE BUS 2.5 5 Cylinder Cam position. "operation bring back to life"

    Hi Guys, First post having sold our T2 bay thought it would be a good idea to take on a non running T5 ..slowly working though all the bits that are non working.. now need a little help. After rebuilding the engine have a cam relation with crank..fine i thought easy timing out so take the front off to look ..yep its half a tooth out..using the locking tool , have a friend take a look he said i have not lined up the train gears with the crank ..before fitting the head..hmmm so remove the cam buckets and injectors so i can turn over to try and find the correct position ..after about an hour found a place where it lined up..woop woop..all back together its runs {just} when you turn it off its like the immobiliser is cutting off the engine.. when it is running the driver is very turbo lag..then whooh away you go. still reading ???.. help.. is there any way i can phase the cam using VCDS ? also would like to disarm the immobiliser if poss...john { thanks in advance }

    THINGS DONE
    new cam sensor..well two really
    new crank sensor
    lots of swearing and many cups of tea ...lol..

    ps..why is it showing BPC as engine code as its a BNZ ??

    Code:
    Sunday,29,March,2020,12:08:30:62543
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   License Plate: HK
    Mileage: 496710km-308641mi   Repair Order: 29.03.
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
              57 6E 76 77 78 7D
     
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   Mileage: 496710km-308641miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
       Part No SW: 070 906 016 DS    HW: 070 906 016 DS
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
       Coding: 0001072
       Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
       VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184
    
    3 Faults Found:
    008581 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83) 
                   P2185 - 000 - Signal too High
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 496719 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.62 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Temperature: 45.9C
                        Temperature: 24.3C
    
    000833 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
                   P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 496719 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 504 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 100.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.17 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Idle Stabilization: 0.0KW
                        (no units): 3.0
    
    012296 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
                   P3008 - 000 - Signal Out of Range - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 496719 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 651 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 100.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.63 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000100
                        Idle Stabilization: 0.0KW
                        (no units): 35.0
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 7H0-907-37x-ABS.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 S    HW: 7H0 907 379 S
       Component: (M)ABS MK25E        0103  
       Revision: 00H21001    
       Coding: 0000552
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
       VCID: 45D751C009BEA2DFBA3-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
       Component: CLIMA/AC            0303  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBBD3687B82488F20F-5160
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 937 049 T
       Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2001  
       Coding: 0000101
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
       VCID: 43D34FD8078A9CEF947-5160
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
    01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
       Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0010  
       Coding: 13123
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 221DEA5CFDD0B5E7FF1-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 920 951 T
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
       Coding: 00413
       Shop #: WSC 77824  
       VCID: 3D273920646EEA1FE23-5160
       WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277     VWZ7Z0G5463049
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 815 071 F
       Component: Standheizung        0209  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B0307788F1A74AF4C7-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 70B9D01463BC5777395-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 951 171 B
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    2920  
       Coding: 0000022
       Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
       VCID: 290FFD7085E666BFBEB-51F2
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H5 951 178 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    1607
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
       Component: C11 Komfortgert     0004  
       Coding: 00030
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 323D1A1CAD3025670F1-4B1E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 06:13, VBatt start/end: 14.6V/14.5V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 03-29-2020 at 08:46 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by johne View Post
    why is it showing BPC as engine code as its a BNZ ??
    It's not, really. It's showing VCDS using a label file named "070-906-016-BPC". This means that the data for these two engines and ECUs was deemed "close enough" that it could be used for both.

    Many newer ECUs actually do report the exact engine type, but this one doesn't (it's too old to do that).

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    hi many thanks for taking time to reply, what do you think is my next move ??

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    hi, anyone have any ideas ..??? please

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    hi,, looking like its "take it apart"..3.7 BTDC looks a bit close. and now the wiper motor has come out in sympathy , last night my dream was to read "no faults found"

    Code:
    Tuesday,31,March,2020,15:33:21:62543
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   License Plate: HK
    Mileage:    Repair Order: 31/03
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
                    Address 01: Engine  (070 906 016 DS)
    
    15:33:07 Group 001: Injection Quantity
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      6.0 mg/str  Injection Quantity 
      7.1KW  Injection Duration (specified)
      44.1C  Coolant Temperature (G62)
    
    15:33:07 Group 002: Idle Speed
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      0.0 %  Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
       0 01  0  Operation Status 
      44.1C  Coolant Temperature (G62)
    
    15:33:07 Group 003: Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      230.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (spec.)
      485.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (actual)
      100.6 %  Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
                    Address 01: Engine  (070 906 016 DS)
    
    15:34:36 Group 001: Injection Quantity
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      6.3 mg/str  Injection Quantity 
      7.1KW  Injection Duration (specified)
      45.9C  Coolant Temperature (G62)
    
    15:34:36 Group 002: Idle Speed
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      0.0 %  Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
       0 01  0  Operation Status 
      45.9C  Coolant Temperature (G62)
    
    15:34:36 Group 003: Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      230.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (spec.)
      480.0 mg/str  Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (actual)
      100.6 %  Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Readiness Status: 00000000 00000110 11100000 10100000
    MIL Status: MIL OFF
    Comprehensive Components: Passed
    Fuel System: Passed
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Failed or Incomplete
    Number of EOBD-related DTC(s): 0
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
                    Address 01: Engine
    Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 DS
      Component and/or Version: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585
               Software Coding: 0001072
                Work Shop Code: WSC 80093
                          VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184
    
    Advanced Identification
         Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
         Identification: BPG-810
         Revision: --H05---
         Date: 11.06.07
         Test stand number: 1329
         Manufacturer number: 0625
    Flash Status
         Programming Attempts: 3
         Successful Attempts: 3
         Programming Status: 00000000
         Required Conditions: 00000001
         Flash Tool Code: 00032 257 66565
         Flash Date: 00.00.00
    Software
         22.12
         TAYF   
    Misc.
         Hardware number: 070 906 016 DS
    Car Info
         Chassis Number: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277
    VCDS Info:
           VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184
           Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.CLB
           Readiness: No script available
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
                    Address 01: Engine  (070 906 016 DS)
    
    15:38:24 Group 005: Start Conditions (last Engine Start)
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      24.2 mg/str  Starting Torque 
      48.0  Start Synchronisation
      51.3C  Coolant Temperature (G62)
    
    15:38:24 Group 004: Unit Injector
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      3.7 BTDC  Injection Start (specified)
      7.7KW  Injection Duration (specified)
      0.0KW  Torsion Value 
    
    15:38:24 Group 001: Injection Quantity
      798 /min  Engine Speed (G28)
      6.0 mg/str  Injection Quantity 
      7.1KW  Injection Duration (specified)
      51.3C  Coolant Temperature (G62)
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Address 01: DTCs cleared
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Address 01: DTCs cleared
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Code:
    Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
              57 6E 76 77 78 7D
     
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
       Part No SW: 070 906 016 DS    HW: 070 906 016 DS
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
       Coding: 0001072
       Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
       VCID: 6491AC44A244FBD74DD-5184
    
    2 Faults Found:
    000833 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
                   P0341 - 000 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 496719 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 777 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 14.52 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Idle Stabilization: 0.0KW
                        (no units): 48.0
    
    008581 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83) 
                   P2185 - 000 - Signal too High
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 496719 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 777 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 14.52 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Temperature: 51.3C
                        Temperature: 34.2C
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 7H0-907-37x-ABS.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 S    HW: 7H0 907 379 S
       Component: (M)ABS MK25E        0103  
       Revision: 00H21001    
       Coding: 0000552
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
       VCID: 45D751C009BEA2DFBA3-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
       Component: CLIMA/AC            0303  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBBD3687B82488F20F-5160
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 937 049 T
       Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2001  
       Coding: 0000101
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
       VCID: 43D34FD8078A9CEF947-5160
    
    4 Faults Found:
    01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
    01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    00909 - Windshield Wiper Motor (V) Stage 1/2 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    00077 - Windshield Wiper Stop Switch (F229) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 06:45, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/12.7V. VIgn 0.0V)------
    Last edited by Uwe; 03-31-2020 at 10:11 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Hi All, Finally found my problem of having the cam gear half a tooth out from the mark.five cylinder 2.5 BNZ ...drum roll..you need to line up the gear train with the crank at TDC ,lock the crank into the block, fit the head mashing the intermediate using a eccentric shaft then line the cam gear with the top on the head lock the cam shaft then bolt the cam gear with the new diamond washer onto the camshaft, remove all the locks turn the engine over twice to check ..job done. ..

    Next job is electrical.

    Code:
    Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
              57 6E 76 77 78 7D
     
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277   Mileage: 496720km-308647miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
       Part No SW: 070 906 016 DS    HW: 070 906 016 DS
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000SG  1585  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G5463049
       Coding: 0001072
       Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
       VCID: 6491AC44A244FBDBD7A-5184
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 7H0-907-37x-ABS.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 S    HW: 7H0 907 379 S
       Component: (M)ABS MK25E        0103  
       Revision: 00H21001    
       Coding: 0000552
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
       VCID: 45D751C009BEA2D3204-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 496721 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 6145
                        Count: 128
                        Count: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
       Component: CLIMA/AC            0303  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBBD3687B824883BA8-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 937 049 T
       Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2001  
       Coding: 0000101
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
       VCID: 43D34FD8078A9CE30E0-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
       Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0010  
       Coding: 13123
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 221DEA5CFDD0B5EB656-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 920 951 T
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
       Coding: 00413
       Shop #: WSC 77824  
       VCID: 3D273920646EEA13784-5160
       WV2ZZZ7HZ8H015277     VWZ7Z0G5463049
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 815 071 F
       Component: Standheizung        0209  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B0307788F1A74A3D60-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 70B9D01463BC577BA32-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 951 171 B
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    2920  
       Coding: 0000022
       Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
       VCID: 290FFD7085E666B324C-51CE
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H5 951 178 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    1607
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
       Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
       Component: C11 Komfortgert     0004  
       Coding: 00030
       Shop #: WSC 02756  
       VCID: 323D1A1CAD30256B956-4B1E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:53, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/14.5V)-----------
    Last edited by johne; 04-16-2020 at 04:36 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Next job is electrical.

    so that was easy new earth from the ecu to the battery earth fixed that..

    so now i have no faults .. other then the radio and air-con which are both disconnected

    Just to say many thanks for all your help ..happy motoring {well after the lockdown} john

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