2009 Volkswagen Jetta 2.5, knock sensor 1 & 2 codes

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hello again Ross-tech
I have a 2009 VW jetta, CBUA engine 2.5 liter. The vehicle had stored p0333 & p0328 knock sensor high circuit input. We had replaced both knock sensors as a pair with FAE brand parts. block mounting surfaces were cleaned with Emory paper to remove rust and debris. Sensors were both torqued to 20NM exactly with a trusted inch-pounds torque wrench. In addition, sensor instructions say to put a light coat of silicone paste between sensor and block mount surface, which was done (very light skim coat). After repair, both knock sensor codes still returned. Double checked continuity between PCM and knock sensor connectors for input, output, and ground shielding circuits, all tested at 0.5 ohm or less. Tested ground sources of pcm for good ground, again checked out fine. New knock sensors are not shorted to ground shield, and have a 4.7M ohm resistance value for both K1 &K2. On measuring block #26, can see at idle cylinders 1&5 are at .650-700 volts. Loaded engine at 1800 rpm, we can see cylinder #2 climb to around 10volts while the rest fluctuate between 5-7 volts.
So my Question is if you folks have a specification for knock voltage output for different rpm ranges, and any unexpected causes that could create a knock high input. Engine does have higher mileage (180k) but no noticeable engine noises being made, no loose engine brackets or peices can e found that may bounce against the block. Any factory specifications and know knowledge would be greatly appreciated, thanks again!!

Code:
 Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G   9203  
   Revision: G6H02---    Serial number: VWX7Z0HN24U0GH
   Coding: 0000075
   Shop #: WSC 01084 444 89147
   VCID: B87502A5CB06B18FDD-80EC

2 Faults Found:
000819 - Knock Sensor 2 (G66) 
               P0333 - 000 - Signal too High - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 39
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 303429 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:37:08

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1832 /min
                    Load: 67.4 %
                    Speed: 86.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 98.0°C
                    Temperature: 17.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1030.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

000808 - Knock Sensor 1 (G61) 
               P0328 - 000 - Signal too High - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 35
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 303021 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:41:36

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1747 /min
                    Load: 59.2 %
                    Speed: 47.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 94.0°C
                    Temperature: 33.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 JE    HW: 09G 927 750 JE
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1377  
   Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000840
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: FDFBD3B1A4A454A74E-80A8

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0120  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 113B400D492B0001881002ED921F00413000
   Shop #: WSC 47486 002 104857
   VCID: F6E9CC9D419207FF0F-80A2

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 JM    HW: 1K0 820 047 JM
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1212  
   Revision: 00142032    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: F8F5C2A58B86718F1D-80AC

1 Fault Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 AC    HW: 3C8 937 049 AC
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H64 3205  
   Revision: 00H64000    Serial number: 00000008038851
   Coding: 14058E234004150007140000001400000008730B5C000120000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 45447 001 1048576
   VCID: F2E1F08DEDFA1BDF23-80A6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 271108 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 45447  

8 Faults Found:
01505 - Bulb for Blinkers; Rear Right (M8) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 301646 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00906 - Horn (H1) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 302347 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.35 V
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02399 - Control Circuit for Terminal 30 for Interior Illumination 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 301559 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.75 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 115
                    Mileage: 303990 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.85 V
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 97
                    Mileage: 302024 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.85 V
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01759 - Relay for Horn 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 302347 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.40 V
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00059 - Terminal 30 for Interior Lighting 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 301559 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00926 - Terminal 30 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 303198 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 5.00 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0489386
   Coding: 0000100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: B36F3589D26052D7E8-80E6

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 83485 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 04:57:53

02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 75
                    Mileage: 304397 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:09:01


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AC    HW: 1K0 909 605 AC
   Component: 21 AIRBAG VW8R  038 8600  
   Revision: 07038600    Serial number: 003E7M07WLN0  
   Coding: 0012849
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: EDDBE3F1F4C4C427FE-80B8

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 H
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0006

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME4145043C4

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME42456B16B

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME181D46066

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME181D4078A

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME1908494FA

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME19422B0D3

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CP    HW: 1K0 953 549 CP
   Component: J0527           053 0111  
   Coding: 0001031
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 8201A04DDD5A2B5F33-80D6

1 Fault Found:
00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22) 
            014 - Defective

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 S    HW: 1K0 920 954 S
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1222  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0HN24U0GH
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 01011 333 00000
   VCID: BC7D1EB5FF3E9DAF39-80E8

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0071  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 211008F2001312
   Coding: ED807F07000702001002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: B7770199C618BEF7D4-80E2

2 Faults Found:
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 303198 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:05:08

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 303198 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:05:08


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 S    HW: 1K0 920 954 S
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1222  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0HN24U0GH
   Shop #: WSC 47237 001 1048576
   VCID: BC7D1EB5FF3E9DAF39-80E8

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC    HW: 1K0 959 793 N
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1519  
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: EFE7F9F9FEC83637CC-80BA

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 701 AC
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1519

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: AA5128ED05AA131F5B-80FE

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 50
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 302327 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:14:13

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.88 V
                        DU
                    Temperature: 41.0°C
                    RPM: 1338 /min
                    Speed: 25.0 km/h
                    Speed: 24.0 km/h
                    Count: 0


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13900F880186281B0904058FB0880F0488DCA0
   Shop #: WSC 47237 001 1048576
   VCID: 840DA655C74E256F01-80D0

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01038 - Central Locking Thermal Protection 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 115
                    Mileage: 302582 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:34:47


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC    HW: 1K0 959 792 N
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 08083107464202
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: F0E5FA85E3F629CFD5-80A4

1 Fault Found:
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 303198 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
   Component: Radio DE2       016 0020  
   Revision: 00016000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H2257815
   Coding: 0010400
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: A953D7E100AC180752-80FC

3 Faults Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 - -
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH    HW: 1K0 959 795 T
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000003648975
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: F6E9CC9D819207FF0F-80A2

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 840DA655C74E256F01-80D0

1 Fault Found:
01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 108
                    Mileage: 303494 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:37:20


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH    HW: 1K0 959 794 T
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1401  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000003637375
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: F7F7C19986987EF714-80A2

1 Fault Found:
00935 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Right (V27) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 303198 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels:. 1K8-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 035 730 A    HW: 1K8 035 730 A
   Component: Telefon       H07 5200  
   Revision: 00007000    Serial number: 20389520001289
   Coding: 401100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: A757D1D9D6B82E7744-80F2

No fault code found.

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2009 Volkswagen Jetta 2.5, knock sensor 1 & 2 codes

hello again Ross-tech
I have a 2009 VW jetta, CBUA engine 2.5 liter. The vehicle had stored p0333 & p0328 knock sensor high circuit input. We had replaced both knock sensors as a pair with FAE brand parts. block mounting surfaces were cleaned with Emory paper to remove rust and debris. Sensors were both torqued to 20NM exactly with a trusted inch-pounds torque wrench. In addition, sensor instructions say to put a light coat of silicone paste between sensor and block mount surface, which was done (very light skim coat). After repair, both knock sensor codes still returned. Double checked continuity between PCM and knock sensor connectors for input, output, and ground shielding circuits, all tested at 0.5 ohm or less. Tested ground sources of pcm for good ground, again checked out fine. New knock sensors are not shorted to ground shield, and have a 4.7M ohm resistance value for both K1 &K2. On measuring block #26, can see at idle cylinders 1&5 are at .650-700 volts. Loaded engine at 1800 rpm, we can see cylinder #2 climb to around 10volts while the rest fluctuate between 5-7 volts.
So my Question is if you folks have a specification for knock voltage output for different rpm ranges, and any unexpected causes that could create a knock high input. Engine does have higher mileage (180k) but no noticeable engine noises being made, no loose engine brackets or peices can e found that may bounce against the block. Any factory specifications and know knowledge would be greatly appreciated, thanks again!!​


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Hi metwrench,
Do not confuse a mounting rattling with engine knock which is caused by incorrect combustion. Are you happy the fueling is correct? Are you using good fuel?
Regards HMC
 
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