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    2009 GOLF TDi DSG DQ200 GEARBOX HELP !

    2009 mk6 golf 1.6tdi dsg with gearbox issue, we have had a new mechatronics fitted and the original tcm software cloned onto it but still got same fault !
    car doesn't know which gear to select, bangs between gears, sometimes when you put into drive the car stalls, slows down whilst driving as if you were pressing brakes until it changes gear and then goes again ? possible adaptations ? tried the basic settings a few times and it drives ok for about a mile then starts playing up again.
    had new clutches last year (apparently according to customer ?)
    any help appreciated ? possible coding issue ??
    Code:
    Sunday,22,March,2020,11:43:45:17628
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW215483   License Plate: GOLF TDI DSG 59
    Mileage: 183020km-113723mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K-VW36 (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW215483   Mileage: 183020km-113723miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 997 558 A    HW: 03L 906 023 A
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H23 9980  
       Revision: --H23---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00254014032500080000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997558A 003002
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
       VCID: 3B7F76B5B2217C97B0-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0AM 300 053 J    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
       Component: GSG DSG AG7     451 3012  
       Revision: 00045014    Serial number: CU501905295635
       Coding: 0000024
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 336F5E955271B4D768-8066
    
    3 Faults Found:
    006011 - Clutch 1 
                   P177B - 003 - Tolerance Limit Reached
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100011
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 10
                        Mileage: 183024 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.08.13
                        Time: 11:33:30
    
    005925 - Comparison of Transmission Output Speeds 1 + 2 
                   P1725 - 001 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 10
                        Mileage: 183025 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.08.13
                        Time: 11:34:36
    
    006012 - Clutch 2 
                   P177C - 003 - Tolerance Limit Reached
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100011
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 10
                        Mileage: 183026 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.08.13
                        Time: 11:37:51
    
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 AJ
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107  
       Revision: 00H30001    
       Coding: 133B200D092300FFC80F04EC901C0080310000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 7AF1B3B1F59B859FEB-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AB    HW: 3C8 907 336 AB
       Component: Climatic      H14 0305  
       Revision: 00009001    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
       ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 6DDB88EDBCD522277E-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 084 B    HW: 1K0 937 084 B
       Component: BCM PQ35  B   103 0573  
       Revision: 00103 AF    
       Coding: 48180A3A9025F1C044000080340000E443510088536D8160648000200000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 2D5B48ED7455E2273E-8078
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 20100  21  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 101109 05  54  0402 
       Coding: 0330AD
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H09 9002 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 D    HW: 5K0 959 655 D
       Component: AirbagVW10    037 0606  
       Serial number: 003FKRA0FDK.  
       Coding: 00003133
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01011
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 3B7F76B5B2217C97B0-806E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME3F19554AZZZ2
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME2617664CZZZ 
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3512QSME28544216ZZZN
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3522QSME06423D65ZZZV
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9440017 - Driver's side; side-airbag igniter 
              B100B 11 [136] - Short to Ground
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 14
                        Mileage: 182998 km
                        Date: 2020.03.19
                        Time: 01:52:04
    
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CP    HW: 1K0 953 549 CP
       Component: J0527           053 0111  
       Coding: 0001034
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 0201CB515D4BCD5FB3-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5K0 920 960 N    HW: 5K0 920 960 N
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0308  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 470B00
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 387569B98317578F5D-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H16 0231  
       Revision:   H16       Serial number: 4320K09B110809
       Coding: ED807F06000212000003
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 69D3FCFD403D3E0712-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0308  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AD183F18D3B351F1B-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667656908    
       Coding: 010000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 2649B7C151A3D17FFF-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B    HW: 5K0 959 701 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2114  
       Coding: 0000692
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3163549DA86D86C71A-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3001  
       Revision: 00H17000    
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3163549DA86D86C71A-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 D    HW: 5K0 959 702 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2140  
       Coding: 0000692
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 346D5D89577FB3EF71-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AA    HW: 1K0 035 186 AA
       Component: Radio RCD310  016 0049  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ1Z2I7194866
       Coding: 0100040004
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 65CBF0CD6C251A6736-8030
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 241
                        Mileage: 183018 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.08.11
                        Time: 13:02:27
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 C    HW: 5K0 959 703 C
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
       VCID: 346D5D89577FB3EF71-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 C    HW: 5K0 959 704 C
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
       VCID: 356B608D5C05AAE746-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD&MCK Car Sales View Post
    had new clutches last year (apparently according to customer ?)
    Any chance those clutches were Chinese Replacement Auto Parts?

    The faults seem to point directly at the clutches...

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    Dud you know that mechanical components can not be circumvented by a controller being replaced or failure to set new adaption limits when tolerance have been altered from or too baseline?

    OP are you aware that firmware levels appear way behind for the ECU & TCU at 9980/3012?

    Sure makes you wonder if any of this is under warranty extension or for useful life & even in the Queens Country for Her Royal subjects being violated?
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    Clutches sound as though they were not shimmed properly. Run the latest software as there have been issue with this and a full adaption drive...…. Also pattern parts as UWE said as there have been an updated clutch pack kit in the last few months. Improves shift quality but as I said only as good as the software and the installer if you knows what youre doing. Also has the needle roller been replaced in the crankshaft?

    Mandatory whenever gearbox is removed and reinstalled.

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    Looks pretty much like the clutch unit maybe the adjusters are worn, but i would recommend to recheck your software version, what flash file are you using? use MVB 041 to view flash file, and why is your coding 0000024???? on the 0AM is usually 20, instead of 24?

    also did the dual mass flywheel was changed on this car?? looks like the input speed sensor G182 does not equal the engine speed when in comparison, the control unit need this signal to control the clutches and to calculate slip, the TCU is good?
    Last edited by Golftwincharged; 03-25-2020 at 09:42 PM.

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