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    B6 S4 ABS Bleed

    Hello Ross-Tech Community. New VCDS user here. Have just replaced pads, rotors and brake lines. Was careful not to let too much air into the system but i have a semi spongy brake feel now. I pressure bled my brakes twice. From farthest from the master to closest and then again from closest to farthest. I am attempting to cycle the abs pump and pressure bleed the FL caliper as per bentley instructions.

    VCDS gives me an error in ABS> Basic settings >

    "Error Group 1 Not available"

    Is this a connectivity issue?

    Do I have to 'login' first?

    Any insight appreciated.

    Thanks All, Scan below....


    Code:
    VCDS-Lite
    Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    Version: Release 1.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    Workshop Code: 000 00000
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Tuesday, 17 March 2020, 18:00:17:8525
    VIN Number: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Mileage: Repair Order:
    Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6
    Scan: 01,02,03,08,09,0F,11,15,16,17,18,36,37,45,46,55,56,57,65,67,69,75,76,77
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
    Controller: 8E0 910 560 G
    Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0010
    Coding: 0007711
    Shop #: WSC 26097
    VCID: 29255FEAC0E1
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 614 517 Q
    Component: ABS/ESP allrad 4533
    Coding: 04595
    Shop #: WSC 06435
    VCID: 361F8496015F
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 820 043 AD
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1424
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 63B90DC2E24D
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 907 279 F
    Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0517
    Coding: 01013
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 351D839A1C59
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS-Lite
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Tuesday, 17 March 2020, 18:00:17:8525
    Page 2
    VIN Number: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 035 593 A
    Component: SDAR XM 0010
    VCID: 272159D2D6F5
    2 Faults Found:
    00003 - Control Module
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
    35-10 - - - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 959 655 K
    Component: Airbag 8.4EP 1001
    Coding: 0010607
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 3FF1E1B22E65
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 953 549 N
    Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
    Coding: 02042
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 3E0F9CB6296F
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 920 981 G
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D42
    Coding: 01231
    Shop #: WSC 06942
    VCID: 3115B78AE831
    WAUXL68E55A094089 AUZ6Z0D0278893
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 959 760
    Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: F195F78AA8B1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS-Lite
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Tuesday, 17 March 2020, 18:00:17:8525
    Page 3
    VIN Number: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 959 433 BB
    Component: Komfortgerát T7B 1612
    Coding: 12044
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 729778862DB7
    2 Faults Found:
    00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
    35-00 - -
    00956 - Key 2
    35-00 - -
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.LBL
    Controller: 4Z7 907 357
    Component: dynamische LWR D09
    Coding: 00060
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 047B2E5E0703
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.LBL
    Controller: 8E0 035 195 H
    Component: symphony II PM6 0410
    Coding: 01205
    Shop #: WSC 19200
    VCID: 2C2BA6FECF13
    No fault code found.
    End --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Brake bleeding on that ABS should be Basic Settings, Group 002, but I do not have a detailed procedure.

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    So it seems that regardless of which group I chose, they all say 'not available'

    Edit: Id like to add that i keep seeing this link on various forums but it seems to be dead?

    http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/absbleeding.html

    Edit 2: I am ordering the proper HEX V2 Enthusiast cable. I think that my 3rd party cable is my issue. Will report back. I will say that I am still curious about the above missing link, though.
    Last edited by bacon612; 03-19-2020 at 10:28 AM.

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    Ok. So i overnighted a HEX V2 Enthusiast cable. It did give me a little more info than the other cable i was using. For example, its able to identify that the ABS module in my car is a Bosch 5.7. I still cant activate the abs pump to attempt to bleed.

    new code:
    Code:
    VCDS
    Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2(x64) Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    Dealer/Shop Name:
    Workshop Code: 000 00000 000000
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Saturday,21,March,2020,10:52:32:65140
    VIN: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Mileage: 79270km-49256mi Repair Order:
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
    67 69 75 76 77
    VIN: WAUXL68E55A094089 Mileage: 79270km-49256miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 G HW: 8E0 907 560
    Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0010
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ6Z0D0278893
    Coding: 0007711
    Shop #: WSC 26097 444 54377
    VCID: 290FFB6165E6C50FBEB-5160
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels:
    Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
    VCID: 3635201DA1589AF7239-51A8
    No Faults Found
    or DTCs not supported by controller
    or a communication error occurred
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 820 043 AD
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1424
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 6393A949424A5F5FB47-5160
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Saturday,21,March,2020,10:52:32:65140
    Page 2
    VIN: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
    Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0517
    Coding: 01013
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 35372711BC5E91EF2A3-4B00
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 035 593 A
    Component: SDAR XM 0010
    VCID: 270BFD5976C2F37FA8F-5066
    2 Faults Found:
    00003 - Control Module
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
    35-10 - - - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 655 K
    Component: Airbag 8.4EP 1001
    Coding: 0010607
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 3FDB45398B625BBFF0F-5184
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
    Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
    Coding: 02042
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 3E25383D896852B7FB9-4B00
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Saturday,21,March,2020,10:52:32:65140
    Page 3
    VIN: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 920 981 G
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D42
    Coding: 01231
    Shop #: WSC 06942
    VCID: 313F13014836BDCF76B-5160
    WAUXL68E55A094089 AUZ6Z0D0278893
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 760
    Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 71BFD3018886FDCF36B-4B3C
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
    Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
    Component: Komfortgerát T7B 1612
    Coding: 12044
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 72BDDC0D8DB0C6D7CF1-4B00
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801
    Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0205
    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
    Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0205
    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
    Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0205
    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
    Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0205
    2 Faults Found:
    00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
    35-00 - -
    00956 - Key 2
    35-10 - - - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Saturday,21,March,2020,10:52:32:65140
    Page 4
    VIN: WAUXL68E55A094089 License Plate:
    Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
    Part No: 4Z7 907 357
    Component: dynamische LWR D09
    Coding: 00060
    Shop #: WSC 06325
    VCID: 04518AD5A734F867EDD-4B1E
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
    Component: symphony II PM6 0410
    Coding: 01205
    Shop #: WSC 19200
    VCID: 2C0102756F24D02745D-5066
    No fault code found.
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:17, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------

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