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    2010 JSW no start

    I have a no start situation on my 2010 JSW after sitting for a month or so. Car had a battery tender hooked up. When I turn the key on the ignition, nothing happens, it's as if the clutch interlock switch were not working. I have replaced the battery as a precaution, to no avail.I also cleaned the wire terminals, and the main ground points in the engine bay, also to no avail.
    VCDS scan shows a few of codes for the central electronics however, and I think that is where I need to start looking, but I am at a bit of a loss as to where to start, and was hoping for some assistance.
    VCDS log follows:




    Code:
    Sunday,15,March,2020,12:44:20:41177
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64) HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWPL7AJ7AM629109 License Plate:
    Mileage: 297130km-184628mi Repair Order:
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: 3VWPL7AJ7AM629109 Mileage: 297130km-184628miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CJA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
    Part No SW: 03L 906 019 CL HW: 03L 906 022 TS
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 7966
    Revision: 12H02--- Serial number:
    Coding: 0050072
    Shop #: WSC 07325 444 84734
    VCID: 77BE2B85066D9DF796-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AN HW: 1K0 907 379 AN
    Component: ESP MK60EC1 H45 0107
    Revision: 00H45001
    Coding: 114B600C49240003880C06E4922200423000
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 7EB03EA1E957ACBFD5-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
    Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 N HW: 3C8 907 336 N
    Component: Climatic H13 0203
    Revision: 00006001
    Coding: 0000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00187
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01001
    ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
    VCID: 383CE8B983F3528F5F-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
    Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 C HW: 5K0 937 085 C
    Component: BCM PQ35 B++ 008 3019
    Revision: BI008001
    Coding: 27380EB8802D3EC4000800014000000007000000435D856064 0000000000
    Shop #: WSC 25807 444 68371
    VCID: 3326DF959295B1D76A-8066
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer 26100 21 0501
    Coding: 009795
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100010
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 10
    Mileage: 297137 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.06.25
    Time: 22:50:09
    
    Freeze Frame:
    Term 15 Off
    Voltage: 16.60 V
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100010
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 10
    Mileage: 297137 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.06.25
    Time: 22:50:09
    
    Freeze Frame:
    Term 15 Off
    Voltage: 14.10 V
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    
    00927 - Terminal 30 (Right)
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 50
    Mileage: 297137 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.06.25
    Time: 22:50:03
    
    Freeze Frame:
    Term 15 Off
    Voltage: 11.25 V
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    
    01516 - Terminal 30; Left
    011 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101011
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 10
    Mileage: 297137 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.06.25
    Time: 22:50:09
    
    Freeze Frame:
    Term 15 Off
    Voltage: 13.85 V
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 B HW: 5K0 959 655 B
    Component: AirbagVW10G 019 0706
    Serial number: 003C4D07BP3Z
    Coding: 00003044
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01012
    ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
    VCID: 393AEDBDB8F94B87A0-806C
    
    Seat occupied recognition:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1KM 959 339 HW: 1KM 959 339
    Component: BF-Gewichtss. 007 0001
    Serial number: ---0000R--0004SLDM00
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557 HW: 1KM 955 557
    Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H01 ----
    Serial number: 3572MSME1A23614AZZZU
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557 HW: 1KM 955 557
    Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H01 ----
    Serial number: 3582MSME0D21104AZZZP
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
    Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H --- ----
    Serial number: 3511HSME6908381DZZZT
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
    Component: S.Sens.Beif.H --- ----
    Serial number: 3521HSME3D574B1DZZZ$
    
    Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
    Component: F.Sens.Fahr --- ----
    Serial number: 35527SME6601711CZZZA
    
    Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
    Component: F.Sens.Beif --- ----
    Serial number: 35627SME1917711CZZZG
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CF HW: 1K0 953 549 CF
    Component: J0527 056 0111
    Coding: 0000732
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 78BC28B90B73928F9F-802C
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
    Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
    Coding: 00000130
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
    Part No SW: 5K0 920 970 L HW: 5K0 920 970 L
    Component: KOMBI H08 0021
    Revision: V0008011 Serial number:
    Coding: 271C00
    Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00146
    ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04010
    ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A04_VW36.rod
    VCID: 373EEB858EED5DF756-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: J533 Gateway H07 0081
    Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 080909F2000406
    Coding: E9807F06001602002002
    Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
    VCID: 668076C151C7147F3D-8032
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
    Part No SW: 5N0 919 879 HW: 5N0 919 879
    Component: Kompass 001 0001
    Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 1225223T620D04
    Coding: 0000002
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 7EB03EA12957ACBFD5-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 5K0 920 970 L HW: 5K0 920 970 L
    Component: IMMO H08 0021
    Revision: V0008011 Serial number:
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01010
    ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
    VCID: 373EEB858EED5DF756-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC HW: 1K0 959 793 N
    Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1525
    Revision: 72009005 Serial number: 00000895899001
    Coding: 0001205
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 6FAE13E57E3DD5374E-803A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 49
    Mileage: 0 km
    Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
    Part No: 1K0 909 144 H
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70 2901
    Revision: 00H17000
    Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
    VCID: 2F2ED3E5BEBD95370E-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC HW: 1K0 959 792 N
    Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1525
    Revision: 72009005 Serial number: 09071715043701
    Coding: 0001204
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 70AC10996303CACF57-8024
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01553 - Motor for Central Locking; Passenger Door (V57); Lock
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101100
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 50
    Mileage: 240172 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.01
    Time: 17:08:04
    
    00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221)
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00111000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 50
    Mileage: 240172 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.01
    Time: 17:08:04
    
    
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    Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 035 188 F HW: 1K0 035 188 F
    Component: Radio Prem-8 H07 0009
    Revision: -----12S Serial number: VWZ4Z7P3560427
    Coding: 01000400040007
    Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
    VCID: 2B16C7F54AA5E91722-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 5
    Reset counter: 9
    Mileage: 294625 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.01.29
    Time: 10:09:50
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH HW: 1K0 959 795 T
    Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 1401
    Revision: 12006001 Serial number: 00000004360078
    Coding: 0001168
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 76A026810167E4FF8D-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH HW: 1K0 959 794 T
    Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 1401
    Revision: 12006001 Serial number: 00000004336325
    Coding: 0001168
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 77BE2B85066D9DF796-8022
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223)
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00111000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 50
    Mileage: 240172 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.01
    Time: 17:07:60
    
    01554 - Motors for Central Locking; Rear Doors; Lock
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01111100
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 26
    Reset counter: 10
    Mileage: 240172 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.01
    Time: 17:07:59
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
    Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K HW: 7P6 035 730 K
    Component: TELEFON H15 3200
    Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007664737170
    Coding: 0A01040000010110
    Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
    ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
    VCID: 3A38F2B1BDFF409FA9-806E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    U1014 00 [009] - -
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 10
    Mileage: 297137 km
    Date: 2020.03.15
    Time: 12:50:10
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:17, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.3V)-----------
    Last edited by mishkaya; 03-15-2020 at 06:34 PM.

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    Hi and welcome.

    Have you checked all fuses?

    Faults in the BCM indicate it not getting power, and I could see it that causing the no-crank.

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    Terminal 30 and 15 are lacking, is ignition switch function proper or terminal relays?

    Is alarm and door module faults running interference?

    Why was voltage @16 volts in stamp?

    Clear all codes reboot and perform a battery Jesus.
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    It would seem that terminal 30 is the culprit here. I did check each and every fuse, both in the main fuse block and the one in the dash, all were fine. I removed and reinstalled all relays, actually replaced the relay 100 in the main junction block hoping it would solve my problem, but it did not. I did notice after dark that the interior lighting is no longer working, nor is the door ajar chime.
    As time allows, I will be checking the 200 amp fuse bar at terminal 30, and will disassemble the main fuse block to check for corrosion or damaged wiring. I somehow think I remember there may have been a TSB at one point for the main fuse block on these cars???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Terminal 30 and 15 are lacking, is ignition switch function proper or terminal relays?

    Is alarm and door module faults running interference?

    Why was voltage @16 volts in stamp?

    Clear all codes reboot and perform a battery Jesus.
    Not sure why voltage showed 16. That one has me stumped as well. I will run another scan after checking the main fuse block and will report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Why was voltage @16 volts in stamp?
    I suspect the answer is here:
    Quote Originally Posted by mishkaya View Post
    I have a no start situation on my 2010 JSW after sitting for a month or so. Car had a battery tender hooked up.
    I do not trust those things. I've seen too many that run the voltage up too high.

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    Fuse box B (engine bay)..... take 2 or 3 photos BEFORE you touch the fuses! No excuses, 2 or 3 photos taken.... then pull fuses out 1 at a time and look for hotspotting.



    The photo shows a fuse that was causing some terminal 30 type codes in a customer's car.... note that the fuse itself is not popped, but 1 blade is roached... the fuse box, while hard to tell from the photo, is kind of melted. This is the type of damage you are looking for on top of an outright popped fuse.

    We've come across a lot of cases where fuse box B has poor mechanical connection with fuses, so things get hot and melty there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I suspect the answer is here:

    I do not trust those things. I've seen too many that run the voltage up too high.

    -Uwe-
    I do not think the issue is with the battery tender as I swapped batteries with my daily driver, and the battery from the problem car is just fine. Problem not resolved with different battery however...
    I have only had one issue in over fifteen years of using battery tenders where a battery was overcharged and boiled dry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jef View Post
    Fuse box B (engine bay)..... take 2 or 3 photos BEFORE you touch the fuses! No excuses, 2 or 3 photos taken.... then pull fuses out 1 at a time and look for hotspotting.

    The photo shows a fuse that was causing some terminal 30 type codes in a customer's car.... note that the fuse itself is not popped, but 1 blade is roached... the fuse box, while hard to tell from the photo, is kind of melted. This is the type of damage you are looking for on top of an outright popped fuse.

    We've come across a lot of cases where fuse box B has poor mechanical connection with fuses, so things get hot and melty there.
    How I wish it were that simple! I did removed and physically check every single fuse, both in the main fuse box and inside the car. I also removed and reinstalled all relays. Swapped the the relay 100 for terminal 30 with a new one with no change. At this point I suspect that the problem lies within the main fuse box. I will not have time to investigate further until Thursday, but I will report back with my findings.
    Thanks to everyone who has offered suggestions, it is much appreciated.

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