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Hi
If this has already been discussed, I apologized in advance. Googling "vw OR volkswagen AND 0w20 OR 0w30 site:ross-tech.com" only returned one forum posting from 2015.
VWoA is having all their dealership's service centers use 0w30 with their EA288 / EA189 TDI engines. Thought everyone would like the heads up. Some of you may ask why? and wouldn't VWoA know best?....
My EA288 Passat went in for it's big 100k servicing (timing belt KIT, water pump, belt, oil, blah blah blah). Driving away, shortly after reaching normal operating temp my engine sounded like crap. Cam noises, all sorts of not good noises, vibration was different (I can usually feel when most engines are half 1/2 qt. low oil...) Took my car back next day, dealership service go over their work.... Took my car back next day, dealership goes over their work... Took my car back third day and demanded their shop forman both ride with me and drive my car with me. It was at that time I learn "oh... btw... VWoA is having us use 0w30 in our TDIs and thats really been untested." And then there was some back shoving of .
Hmmm.... my engine sounds like a rock tumbler and you're just now telling me... oh btw...
After purchasing my own 5w30 for diesels w/ DPF conforming to VW both 50* specs. My service writer verified the oil specs and did a full oil change w/ my own oil free charge.
Thats the whole story.... and as for why: VWoA is taking their cues from Ford & MOPAR. Thinner oil means less work/resistance on running engine (until it breaks) yielding better fuel econ. However parts wear out quicker, engines wear out quicker; not good for people expecting their TDIs to last.
Told regional QTM that if any damage happened to my engine due to thinner oil, I would never buy another VW auto group product ever. Quality and integrity is a long term investment.
That's my 0wSoapbox and FYI for people using warranty/dealership servicing.
Thank you for your time,
Grant
If this has already been discussed, I apologized in advance. Googling "vw OR volkswagen AND 0w20 OR 0w30 site:ross-tech.com" only returned one forum posting from 2015.
VWoA is having all their dealership's service centers use 0w30 with their EA288 / EA189 TDI engines. Thought everyone would like the heads up. Some of you may ask why? and wouldn't VWoA know best?....
My EA288 Passat went in for it's big 100k servicing (timing belt KIT, water pump, belt, oil, blah blah blah). Driving away, shortly after reaching normal operating temp my engine sounded like crap. Cam noises, all sorts of not good noises, vibration was different (I can usually feel when most engines are half 1/2 qt. low oil...) Took my car back next day, dealership service go over their work.... Took my car back next day, dealership goes over their work... Took my car back third day and demanded their shop forman both ride with me and drive my car with me. It was at that time I learn "oh... btw... VWoA is having us use 0w30 in our TDIs and thats really been untested." And then there was some back shoving of .
Hmmm.... my engine sounds like a rock tumbler and you're just now telling me... oh btw...
After purchasing my own 5w30 for diesels w/ DPF conforming to VW both 50* specs. My service writer verified the oil specs and did a full oil change w/ my own oil free charge.
Thats the whole story.... and as for why: VWoA is taking their cues from Ford & MOPAR. Thinner oil means less work/resistance on running engine (until it breaks) yielding better fuel econ. However parts wear out quicker, engines wear out quicker; not good for people expecting their TDIs to last.
Told regional QTM that if any damage happened to my engine due to thinner oil, I would never buy another VW auto group product ever. Quality and integrity is a long term investment.
That's my 0wSoapbox and FYI for people using warranty/dealership servicing.
Thank you for your time,
Grant