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    MK7 Power Folding Mirror Mod Question!

    Hello to all.

    I've been following Humble Mechanic and I am considering doing the power folding mirror mod to my mk7 golf sportwagen tdi. However, when I went over to and went to the mirrors, it had a note stating that this mod may not work if you do not have the right door module. How do you know if you have the right door module? Is there a list somewhere that shows what modules support what? Does it mean anything if I have factory equipped heated mirrors?

    Thank you!
    Last edited by Dr363305; 02-24-2020 at 12:24 PM. Reason: id10t error

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    Just to be clear, is it this car?

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    Yes Sir, it is!

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    Dr363305: Being a citizen from the Antipodes, I'm not the correct person to reply to your question - but there's lots of dialogue on the net by "yanks" discussing this matter (for NAR model mk7's).

    The crucial aspect of the mirror dip function is for the hex52 module to have a memory facility - which is needed to record the "X"/"Y" coordinates so that the mirror can return to the correct position when the car drives forward.

    The table below may be of interest - it's for cars in your part of the world (its from bbjwvr6 on VWVortex site)

    VW Golf MkVII (MY13) - A3 8V hatch (MY17)

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    Per PL24 by VIN your 52 module appears to be 5Q0 959 592 B Z0U. That supers to a newer part number but this temp screen shot may be helpful:

    If you intend on using that later make sure to save it because the link will expire at some point.

    The PR-Codes for your vehicle are:
    Vehicle Identification No. 3VWFA7AU6FM508879
    Model Golf Variant 2.0 GOV
    Date of production 13.04.2015
    Model year 2015
    Sales type BX5212
    Engine Code CRUA
    Transmission Code PFN
    Axle drive 6S
    Equipment TW
    Roof color 8E
    Carpet color code
    Exterior color / Paint Code 8E / A7W
    Seat combination no.
    Number of Z-Orders
    Special editions E0A Without special action equipment
    Lockable wheel bolts 1PF Standard wheel bolts
    Vehicle class differentiation units/platform components 7II Vehicle class differentiation -5GM-
    tail pipe 0P1 Rear side exhaust tailpipe
    Hill start assist UG1 Hill start assist
    Emission standard 7MU Emission standard LEV 3/Tier 3 125
    Trailer hitch 1D0 Without trailer hitch
    airbag 4UM Driver's and front passenger air bag, NAR with front passenger air bag deactivation (2-stage) - SMART airbag with automatic deactivation
    Aktivkohlebehälter / Ottopartikelfilter 1E9 without activated carbon canister with SCR
    Storage compartment package QE0 Without storage compartment package/box
    Storage compartment 7N0 Without overhead storage compartment
    Aerials 8L6 "diversity" window antenna
    Exterior mirror setting 6XN Exterior mirrors, power-adjustable/ separately heated
    Follow-on warranty EA0 Without subsequent warranty
    Left exterior mirror 5SH Left exterior mirror, flat (US)
    Electronic engine sound measures GM1 Standard electronic engine sound
    Right exterior mirror 5RR Right exterior mirror, convex (US)
    Alternative drive system 0K0 Without alternative drive system
    Drive type 1X0 Front-wheel drive
    Equipment levels A8B basic outfit
    Area monitoring systems 6K0 Without forward collision warning/ autonomous emergency braking
    Brake type in rear 1KQ Disc brakes in rear
    batteries J0N Battery 330 A (61 Ah)
    Brake type, front 1ZP Disc brakes in front (Geomet D)
    Components with special surface 6FF Exterior mirror housing and various attachments colour coded to vehicle
    Battery/alternator capacity NY0 Standard battery/alternator capacity
    Component part sets with country-specific design requirements B0D Component parts set, complying with vehicle type for USA (without California), various parts
    vehicle tools and jack 1S1 vehicle tools and jack
    Brake systems 1AT Electronic stability control (ESC)
    Owner's manuals 0VM Information kit in American English
    Operating voltage 9Z2 12-V operating voltage and 115-V inverter
    Brake pad wear indicator 9U0 Without brake pad wear indicator
    Heated washer nozzles 9T1 Heated washer nozzles in front
    CD/DVD drive and SD card slot EC3 With CD drive and SD card slot
    CD ROM/DVD/SD card 7QA Without CD/DVD for navigation
    "Charism" 2H0 Without "drive select"
    Chrome package QJ1 Chrome package
    General operating permit, alterations C00 Operating permit, initial registration
    Roof rails/roof load rack 3S2 Black roof rails
    Roof insert/convertible top 3FU Big roof system
    Suspension system in rear 1JA Rear shock absorption, basic version 1
    Suspension system in front G07 Shock absorption in front
    Differential lock 1Y3 Differential lock (XDS) dynamic traction control
    Insert for the filling up of unleaded fuel/fuel type 2G5 Filler neck module 1 without insert
    ECO function for driving profiles and Drive select EF0 without ECO function
    Installation differentiation for components 0EN Installation differentiation for transmission MQ 350 -- vehicle components --
    Theft protection system 7AA Electronic immobilizer
    Inserts 5MB Decorative inserts
    Scuff plates 7M5 Without impact protection film for door sill
    Park distance control 7X0 Without park distance control
    Extended safety system 7W0 Without extended safety system
    Electric interface for external use UQ3 Electric interface for external use, with an iPhone4 adapter cable
    Manufacturing sequence differentiation 0FA Standard manufacturing sequence
    window regulator 4R4 Power windows with comfort operation and circuit breaker
    fire extinguisher 6A0 without fire extinguisher
    Pedestrian protection VL0 Standard pedestrian protection measures
    Pedal cluster VF0 Standard pedal cluster
    Headlight activation 9C9 Separate daytime running light and automatic headlight control -NAR- with Coming Home and Leaving Home feature
    Fresh air intake for passenger compartment (with particulate filter) 2V5 Fresh air intake system with combination filter
    Parking brake UH0 Parking brake
    Vehicle tracing system 7G0 Without preparation for VTS (Vehicle Tracing System)
    Alternators 8GU Alternator 140 A
    Weight category rear axle 0YJ Weight range 9 installation control only, no requirement forecast
    Weight category front axle L07 Suspension range 07 installation control only, no requirement forecast
    Base engine TR1 4-cylinder diesel engine 2.0 l unit 04L.A
    Luggage netting/pocket on backrest(s) 4U5 Luggage pockets on backrest
    Luggage compartment cover 3U2 Sliding trunk cover
    cruise control system 8T2 Electronic cruise control system (CCS)
    Transmission specifications G0K 6-speed manual transmission
    handle for hand brake lever 6PC Hand brake lever handle in leather
    Rear spoiler 5J0 Without rear spoiler
    Rear window wiper and washer system 8M1 Rear window wiper washer system with intermittent wipe
    Rear axle 0N1 Standard rear axle
    Molded headliner 6NA Unsplit molded headliner
    Rear seats 3NU Rear bench seat, not split, split backrest, folding centre armrest
    Heating and air-conditioning system KH6 Air conditioning system with electronic control
    Headlamps 8IM Gas-discharge headlamps with cornering light
    Interior light in footwell 6T1 Interior light in footwell
    Instrument clusters U5C Instrument cluster, mph speedometer - USA -
    Breakaway interior rearview mirror 4L2 Breakaway interior rearview mirror, dimming
    Body style K8D Wagon/Avant
    Camera/distance sensor QK0 Without camera without distance sensor (driver assistance system)
    Refrigerator 1W2 Glove compartment cooling system
    Folding table 1U8 W/o folding table on front seat backrest
    Climatic zones 0Y4 Cold and tropical climatic zones (US)
    Compass/road sign display QR8 without road sign recognition
    Rear head restraints 3Q9 Three rear head restraints
    Head restraints 5ZF Front head restraints
    Fuel quantity for initial filling 1Z0 Initial standard fuel filling
    Fuel systems 0F5 Fuel system for diesel engine
    Body measures 5C1 Body measures for increased safety requirements
    Camera systems/accident sensors KA1 With rear view camera system (type 1)
    Radiator grille 6KC Radiator grille
    refrigerant KK1 Refrigerant R134a
    License plate lighting KL1 LED license plate lighting
    Rear license plate carrier 6P2 Rear license plate carrier (NAR)
    Front license plate carrier 6W3 Front license plate carrier (small, NAR)
    Paint preservative/transit coating 5K7 Transport protection film (minimum protection) with additional transport protection measures
    Paint coating FB0 standard paint coating
    Rear cargo area 3GD Plane luggage/load compartment floor in rear
    Light package (lighting) QQ3 Interior ambient lighting and surround lighting
    Vehicle inlet ES0 Without vehicle inlet
    Steering system arrangement L0L Left-hand drive
    Reading lamp 8S6 2 reading lights in front
    steering 1N3 Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
    Backrest release 3H0 Without backrest release for front seats
    Light control systems 8G0 Without Light Assist
    Lumbar support 7P4 Manually adjustable lumbar support in front seats
    steering wheels 2ZH Leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel
    Driving on the left/on the right AV2 Driving on the right (NAR)
    Speaker installation 8RU Sound system with subwoofer "branded"
    Headlight range control 8Q5 Dynamic headlight range control, with cornering light (AFS 1)
    Center armrest 6E3 Center armrest in front
    Versions FM0 Basic equipment variant
    Multi-function display/trip computer 9S5 Multi-function display/trip computer "Medium"
    Center console 3D2 Center console
    Driver alert system EM0 Without driver alert system
    Engine cooling 8Z6 Hot country
    Engine specifications DN4 4-cyl. turbo diesel engine 2.0 l/110 kW (4V) TDI common rail; b.engine T37/T6F TS1/TR1/T0P/T0N/T13/T29/TM4/TD1/TI9/T1I
    Navigation device 7Q0 without navigation system
    rear fog lamp 8TA witout rear fog lamp
    Front fog lamp/additional headlamp 8WH Front fog lamp and cornering lamp
    Online services EL2 Online service, with OCU, without head unit coding, without engine immobilizer interconnection
    Rear of platform module base 4P3 Rear floor panel module, type 4
    Hubcaps 1NL Trims for alloy wheels
    Wheels C7J Alloy wheels 7J x 17
    Radios I8D Radio Standard (Gen1)
    Smoker's/non-smoker's package 9JF Non-smoker's package (NAR)
    Regional code for radio ER3 Regional code " NAR " for radio
    Tire pressure monitoring system 7K6 Tire pressure monitoring system
    tire H7K All-season tires 225/45 R17 91H (NAR)
    Tire suppliers V0A Tires without specification of tire brand
    Spare wheel/breakdown kit 1G9 Space-saving spare wheel for temporary use, radial tire (5-hole)
    Wheelbases 0B1 Wheelbase
    Restraint systems, front 4QQ 3-point seat belts in front with pretensioner and height adjustment, US label
    P01 Light package TSI and TDI SE, USA
    W01 TDI SE package, USA
    Side airbag 4X3 Side airbag in front, with curtain airbag
    Gearshift knob/handle 6Q2 Gearshift knob/handle in leather
    Special labels/plates 0SC Labels in English
    Tail lamp assemblies 8SJ Rear combination lamp, standard design (NAR)
    Service indicator QI7 Service indicator 10 000 miles or 1 year (fix)
    Seat belt check 9P7 Visual and acoustic seat belt reminder, electric contact in buckle
    Outer rear seat belts 3ZD 3-point seat belts, outer rear with US label
    Center rear seat belts 3C8 3-point seat belt, center rear with US label
    seat covers N4Q Seat trim covers in leatherette
    Seat adjustment 3PT Manual height adjustment for front seats
    seat heater 4A3 seat heating for front seats separat controlable
    Start-stop system/regenerative braking 7L3 Without start-stop system without regenerative braking
    Horns 8Y1 Two-tone horn
    sun visors 5XX Sun visors with mirror, illuminated (NAR)
    Audio-response system/voice control QH1 voice control
    Lane change assist/lane keeping system 7Y0 no lane change assistant
    Side and rear windows 4KC Side and rear windows in heat-insulating glass
    power outlet 7B3 12-volt outlet(s)
    Bumper 2JB Standard bumpers
    Rear stabilizer bar 0BA Without rear stabilizer
    Front stabilizer bar 0AD Front stabilizer bar
    Drawers under front seats QN1 Drawer under left front seat
    Heavy-duty/sports version 2UA Standard design
    Headlamp washer system 8X0 Without headlamp washer system
    Windshield wiper intermittent control/ light/rain sensor 8N6 Windshield wiper intermittent control with light/rain sensor
    Nameplate set 1DG Nameplate set "TDI"
    Mass damper for steering wheels 1Q2 Mass damper for steering wheel, 36 Hz
    Door and lid locking system 4F6 Central locking system "Keyless Entry" without deadlock (NAR)
    Type approval countries/countries with special requirements BU1 Legal requirements for USA 1 States without CARB requirement
    Carrier frequency for remote control 5D2 Carrier frequency 315 MHz
    Partition 3CA without partition
    Door and side trim panels 3LJ Door and side trim panel in foam film, insert in leatherette
    doors 0A2 4 doors
    TV reception/digital radio reception QV4 Satellite radio reception USA
    Front underbody guard 1SA Without additional front underbody guard
    Identification plates 1EB without identification plate
    Delivery equipment 2A8 Delivery equipment, water border
    First aid kit / warning triangle 1T0 Without first aid kit and warning triangle
    Two-way radio installation preparation 9D0 without prepared for two way radio system
    Front seats Q2J Comfort seats in front
    Rear seat catch UK3 Mechanical rear seat release
    Telephone / telematics 9ZX Telephone preparation for cellphone
    Additional warning lights 9TC Additional retro-reflectors (door area)
    LongLife Service Regime QG1 LongLife Service Regime
    Heat accumulator system/auxiliary heater 7E6 Electric auxiliary air heater
    Windshield Glass 4GF Windshield in heat-insulating glass
    Washer fluid level indicator 8W1 Washer fluid level indicator
    Additional tires (snow tires) 2WA without spare tyre
    floor mats 0TD Front and rear floor mats
    Decorative trims 4ZN Bright decorative trims
    Additional child seat anchors 3B7 Child seat anchors as per Canadian requirements a. ISOFIX child seat system
    Auxiliary heating system 9M0 Without auxiliary heater/parking heater

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    DV52, I am referring to the folding mirror body, not the reverse mirror dip. Are we talking about the same thing?

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    Also, please pardon my ignorance. While I am an advocate of "Google It", this to me is serious and I really do not want to adversely affect my car. I use this car as my daily and I really only want to alter a few things. So, once again, please pardon my ignorance.

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    Since you didn't state what modification you want to perform, it was hard to answer any questions. Even now to me it is not absolutely clear what you're trying to accomplish.
    If those mirrors already can fold, then tweaks including anything folding related should work. You can just try, it will not break anything and you should be able to revert it if it does not work or has unwanted side effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBAx View Post
    Since you didn't state what modification you want to perform, it was hard to answer any questions. Even now to me it is not absolutely clear what you're trying to accomplish.
    My apologies, I was under the assumption that "power folding mirrors" were separate from "reverse mirror dip" function. Please see below:

    Now, when I head over to here , there is a note saying that a lower line door module will prevent this modification from functioning. All I wanted to do was verify if my door module supports this function before spending $350 on mirrors that will not work.

    Sorry for the confusion.

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    Thanks for your thorough description.

    From the auto-scan in the post Uwe linked above I see this:

    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 B    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 141015BJD17145
       Coding: 003A13200000040000000000
       Shop #: WSC 28797 003 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 40D94179CA0AE657DED-8014
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000000890109
       Coding: 011000
    No fault code found.
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 B    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
       Serial number: 030315060509XZ
       Coding: 003A13200000040000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3FDB4285B7F499AFA77-806A
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000000852986
       Coding: 091000
    No fault code found.
    I only copied the door module information. When you look at the ASAM Dataset for both of the modules, you see these being used:

    Driver side (42): EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
    Pass. side (52): EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003

    I marked the important part, which describe these door modules as "MAX" modules. Those to my knowledge support folding mirrors. The parts that do not support it have the letters "MIN" at the exact same position, see this example:

    Adresse 42: Türelektr. Fahrer (J386) Labeldatei:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
      Teilenummer SW: 5Q0 959 393 B HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
      Bauteil: TSG FS 020 0025
      Seriennummer: 07111304080152
      Codierung: 00100E204100040000001002
      Betriebsnr.: WSC 06314 790 00021
      ASAM Datensatz: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
      ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
      VCID: 3E7751BDA18654BAEF-806A
      Türsteuergerät Fahrerseite hinten:
      Subsystem 1 - Teilenummer SW: 5Q0 959 811 HW: 5Q0 959 811 Labeldatei: DRV\5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
      Bauteil: FOND_FHSG_DRV 005 0005
      Seriennummer: 00000000000001027413
      Codierung: 110000
    Kein(e) Fehlercode(s) gefunden.
    So I guess you are good to go!

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