A6 allroad unable to setup suspension

Neilthebath · Feb 23, 2020

Hi
I am trying to set up my suspension in adaptation settings but I can only input the first wheel setting, as soon as I get to channel 2 all I get is errors and loss off coding , it says it's not logged in, ECU problem.?
Any help greatfully welcome
Neil.

Uwe · Feb 23, 2020

Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

-Uwe-

Neilthebath · Feb 23, 2020

Apologies I’m new to this. I can’t see how to do that. I have a picture on my phone but not sure how to send it across to here!? Any help gratefully received. Neil

Uwe · Feb 23, 2020

Please click on the link in post #2.

A picture is not what we want here. We want the text of a scan.

-Uwe-

Neilthebath · Feb 23, 2020

Surely a picture of the text is the same' the link didn't help on posting the picture! Of the text!

Uwe · Feb 23, 2020

Surely, if you can scan the car, you can copy & paste the text of the scan.

-Uwe-

PetrolDave · Feb 24, 2020

Neilthebath said:
Surely a picture of the text is the same' the link didn't help on posting the picture! Of the text!

Since an Auto-Scan is usually many tens, or even hundreds, of lines long I don't see how you can fit the whole Auto-Scan into a single picture?

As Uwe says just copy and paste the text file that is automatically saved, preferably between [code][/code] tags.

Neilthebath · Feb 29, 2020

Please see below autoscan thanks for any advice 2001 allroad suspension learning , I cant get passed channel 1 without errorcoming up.

Code:

Saturday,29,February,2020,18:26:12:39741
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4B22N029256   License Plate: OU51WNN
Mileage: 136000   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ4B22N029256   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-AKE.clb
   Part No: 4Z7 907 401 B
   Component:  2.5l/4VTEDC G000SG D06    
   Coding: 01015
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 3C734C052CF09AAFB9-4AE6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 00015059
   Component: 130 106EC150_1.R75438658187  
   WAUZZZ4B22N029256     AUZ7Z0A1904587

1 Fault Found:
00777 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 
            28-00 - Short to Plus
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 389 
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      D57  
   Coding: 06355
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 091DE5D133A27F07F2-5102

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AC
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0104  
   Coding: 00004
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 5BB1EF99C9BEBD9790-256C

1 Fault Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            37-00 - Faulty

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 D
   Component: Airbag 8.4E         3000  
   Coding: 0001106
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 50AB08B5C0780ECF75-5120

3 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 - - - Intermittent
00592 - Seat Belt Switch; Passenger (E25) 
            000 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D07  
   Coding: 04460
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 2D557141E78A03273E-5120
   WAUZZZ4B22N029256     AUZ7Z0A1904587

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 E
   Component:  - 2C1A1          D040    
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 09999  
   VCID: 479923E96536C97724-5102

3 Faults Found:
01437 - Control Position not Learned 
            35-00 - -
01400 - Suspension Level Control 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01400 - Suspension Level Control 
            08-00 - Control Limit Surpassed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 K
   Component: Zentralverrieg.,DWA D35  
   Coding: 06863
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 316D6D31FBB267C71A-4ECA

6 Faults Found:
01366 - Opened Due to Crash Signal 
            35-00 - -
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00991 - Interior Lights 
            28-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
01559 - Drivers Door 
            60-00 - Won't Safe
01560 - Passenger Door 
            60-00 - Won't Safe
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 60CBD875E0D89E4FC5-4B00

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D06  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 0403F4E51480226F81-4B4A

2 Faults Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 
            35-00 - -
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 195 H
   Component: symphony II NP2    0005   
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 25458961BF7A3B67F6-4E78

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:04)--------------------------

Code:

Saturday,29,February,2020,18:26:12:39741
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4B22N029256   License Plate: OU51WNN
Mileage: 136000   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ4B22N029256   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-AKE.clb
   Part No: 4Z7 907 401 B
   Component:  2.5l/4VTEDC G000SG D06    
   Coding: 01015
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 3C734C052CF09AAFB9-4AE6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 00015059
   Component: 130 106EC150_1.R75438658187  
   WAUZZZ4B22N029256     AUZ7Z0A1904587

1 Fault Found:
00777 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 
            28-00 - Short to Plus
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 389 
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      D57  
   Coding: 06355
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 091DE5D133A27F07F2-5102

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AC
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0104  
   Coding: 00004
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 5BB1EF99C9BEBD9790-256C

1 Fault Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            37-00 - Faulty

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 D
   Component: Airbag 8.4E         3000  
   Coding: 0001106
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 50AB08B5C0780ECF75-5120

3 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 - - - Intermittent
00592 - Seat Belt Switch; Passenger (E25) 
            000 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D07  
   Coding: 04460
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 2D557141E78A03273E-5120
   WAUZZZ4B22N029256     AUZ7Z0A1904587

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 E
   Component:  - 2C1A1          D040    
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 09999  
   VCID: 479923E96536C97724-5102

3 Faults Found:
01437 - Control Position not Learned 
            35-00 - -
01400 - Suspension Level Control 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01400 - Suspension Level Control 
            08-00 - Control Limit Surpassed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 K
   Component: Zentralverrieg.,DWA D35  
   Coding: 06863
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 316D6D31FBB267C71A-4ECA

6 Faults Found:
01366 - Opened Due to Crash Signal 
            35-00 - -
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00991 - Interior Lights 
            28-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
01559 - Drivers Door 
            60-00 - Won't Safe
01560 - Passenger Door 
            60-00 - Won't Safe
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 60CBD875E0D89E4FC5-4B00

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D06  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 0403F4E51480226F81-4B4A

2 Faults Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 
            35-00 - -
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 195 H
   Component: symphony II NP2    0005   
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 25458961BF7A3B67F6-4E78

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:04)--------------------------

Uwe · Feb 29, 2020

If it were mine, the first thing I would do is to clear the fault codes in that module, then check what comes back. I would expect "Control Position not Learned" to come back immediately, but the others not.

The low voltage code has me wondering: Are you using a battery charger, or doing this with the engine running? These modules do not like doing this calibration procedure with the voltage even marginally low.

If "Suspension Level Control -- Control Limit Surpassed" comes back, I would look carefully at the measuring values for each corner. It's possible one of the height sensors is out-of-whack.

-Uwe-

PS: Please Get Verified so we can move this to Car Repair Support. It appears you are in category 2) of that post.

Neilthebath · Feb 29, 2020

Hi Uwe

Thanks for your feedback, yes the battery was flat and I was charging it at the time of the scan so that probably explains that, I will rescan tomorrow and clear faults as you suggested, from memory the control limit surpassed does come back every time so maybe I need to look at the height sensors like you suggested. As regards to verification yes I did buy my Vagcom from Ilexa I do still have the receipt somewhere,
regards Neil.

Neilthebath · Mar 3, 2020

Hi
please can you check if iam verified,i did fill in a form
kind regards
neil.

Uwe · Mar 3, 2020

Neilthebath said:
please can you check if iam verified,i did fill in a form.

You are now, and I'm moving this to Car Repair Support.

-Uwe-

Neilthebath · Mar 3, 2020

Code:

Tuesday,03,March,2020,18:44:19:39741
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4B22N029256   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ4B22N029256   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-AKE.clb
   Part No: 4Z7 907 401 B
   Component:  2.5l/4VTEDC G000SG D06    
   Coding: 01015
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 3C734C052CF09AAFB9-4AE6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 00015059
   Component: 130 106EC150_1.R75438658187  
   WAUZZZ4B22N029256     AUZ7Z0A1904587

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 389 
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      D57  
   Coding: 06355
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 091DE5D133A27F07F2-5102

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AC
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0104  
   Coding: 00004
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 5BB1EF99C9BEBD9790-2566

1 Fault Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            37-00 - Faulty

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 D
   Component: Airbag 8.4E         3000  
   Coding: 0001106
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 50AB08B5C0780ECF75-5102

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D07  
   Coding: 04460
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 2D557141E78A03273E-5120
   WAUZZZ4B22N029256     AUZ7Z0A1904587

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 
   VCID: 55A5F9A1AC9A6BE7A6-5102
   Note:Excessive Comm Errors


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 K
   Component: Zentralverrieg.,DWA D35  
   Coding: 06863
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 316D6D31FBB267C71A-4ECA

1 Fault Found:
01560 - Passenger Door 
            60-10 - Won't Safe - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 60CBD875E0D89E4FC5-4B18

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D06  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 0403F4E51480226F81-4B4A

1 Fault Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 
            35-00 - -

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 195 H
   Component: symphony II NP2    0005   
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 02325  
   VCID: 25458961BF7A3B67F6-4E78

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:21)--------------------------

Hi hope someone can help,

ive rescanned again this evening and a new fault has occurred excessive comm error, I am trying to learn the suspension levels please read previous post. today I managed to input three of the wheel heights before all the four channels flash up with error ! .Previously When I check the fault I get Control limit surpassed intermittent, and control position not learned, I then have to clear faults before I can try again but I can never finish inputting all four.
any help greatly appreciated.

Gremling · Mar 10, 2020

Hi, please read VAG SelfStudyProgram 243 part 1&2. This will greatly improve your understanding of your cars airsuspension system, as well as other systems. Then using the «intro» videos for VCDS, and post questions/answers here will greatly benefit you. I am also a newbe, but when I have sorted my issues, I also post a final post for that topic/issue with the solution, so maybe others find help in their quest for a possible answer.

Now, I have a newer A6 Allroad, and one of several conditions is that the doors must be closed. Not sure if your fault code regarding doorlock here can cause issues, but try clear code and try again. Code issue link (please see link: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01560)
Also make sure you have car on charge, when doing VCDS work, if charger is small/weak, it might not keep up with cars consumption when ignition is on, make sure charger is suitable for the job.

Regards
Gremling

Neilthebath · Apr 29, 2020

Solution update

Gremling said:
Hi, please read VAG SelfStudyProgram 243 part 1&2. This will greatly improve your understanding of your cars airsuspension system, as well as other systems. Then using the «intro» videos for VCDS, and post questions/answers here will greatly benefit you. I am also a newbe, but when I have sorted my issues, I also post a final post for that topic/issue with the solution, so maybe others find help in their quest for a possible answer.

Now, I have a newer A6 Allroad, and one of several conditions is that the doors must be closed. Not sure if your fault code regarding doorlock here can cause issues, but try clear code and try again. Code issue link (please see link: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01560)
Also make sure you have car on charge, when doing VCDS work, if charger is small/weak, it might not keep up with cars consumption when ignition is on, make sure charger is suitable for the job.

Regards
Gremling

Hi all

Thanks for all your inputs, all helped.
After going through all the faults and correcting them one by one ie door not safe things like that, i replaced the valve block which ended up coming into fault. On replacing it i noticed that the compressor pump had a Land Rover label on it :rolleyes:

so obliviously alarm bells rang,i also noted that the vent valve was cable tied on, so basically a bodge.
Although the compressor is very similar in many ways the vent valve didn't fit properly. So i sourced another compressor ( Correct one) re scanned and cleared faults, ran car raises/lowers as it should do :thumbs:

Regards
Neil.

A6 allroad unable to setup suspension

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