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    Mk5 jetta 2.5 crank no start

    I took a chance and bought a cheap jetta that had a no start condition . Ive got the car to at least crank now but I cant get vcds to connect to the ecu .Ive checked fuses and they are good and ive checked wiring from ecu to roughly the firewall and i cant visibly see or feel any bumps in the wiring . any suggestions or places to look

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    What kind of VCDS cable are you using?

    What do/does the LED(s) do when you plug it into the car (only the car, no computer on the other end).

    Does it connect to any of the other modules in the car, like the CAN Gateway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What kind of VCDS cable are you using?

    What do/does the LED(s) do when you plug it into the car (only the car, no computer on the other end).

    Does it connect to any of the other modules in the car, like the CAN Gateway?

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    I can get you an answer to the led question tomorrow. I did do a scan and this is what I got . the car kept blowing fuse sb10 for the ecu so I searched and didnít see anything , eventually I unplugged the secondary air injection pump which stopped blowing the fuse and allowed the car to crank but still not Start . The battery is bad in this car and I eventually will replace but I wanna make sure it runs before I dump a bunch of money in it



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    Editorial note: When posting an Auto-Scan here please copy and paste it inline between [code] and [/code] tags, not as an attachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What kind of VCDS cable are you using?

    What do/does the LED(s) do when you plug it into the car (only the car, no computer on the other end).

    Does it connect to any of the other modules in the car, like the CAN Gateway?

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    The light is solid green . I did another scan but itís not really any different than the first

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    Sorry to keep posting but I did another scan and itís different now that I got the car to crank . I donít fully understand the scan but a couple of the errors are because of the headlight switch. And dimmer switch and the footwell light on the drivers side being disconnected.


    Code:
     Sunday,02,February,2020,16:11:43:16521
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWRF71K66M630543   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 243230km-151136mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
    
    VIN: 3VWRF71K66M630543   Mileage: 243230km-151136miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
       Revision: 00T12001    
       Coding: 0021122
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 408F7E0313C34A4FE7-8014
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 820 047 DK
       Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 70EFEEC363E39ACF57-8024
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
       Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000000107702
       Coding: 04050E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer VW350  012  0402  
       Coding: 00065493
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
    
    7 Faults Found:
    02394 - Parking Light Left Front (M1) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.35 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.35 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01800 - Light Switch (E1) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 243231 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 243231 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.35 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.35 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.35 V
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
       Component: 1S AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300  
       Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD02JXR   
       Coding: 0012627
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2E5330BBB957CC3F05-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME0A1B04412
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME0866701CC
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME07385E69J
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME073B26276
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME07104070M
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0710427B-
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02511 - Control Module for Seat Occupied Recognition (J706) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
    02511 - Control Module for Seat Occupied Recognition (J706) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH    HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
       Component: J0527           034 0070  
       Coding: 0000021
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 78FFD6E30B93C28F9F-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 920 952 C
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1012  
       Coding: 0023203
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
       Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800105423817F
       Coding: 3D3F0340071002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 243231 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 21:48:52
    
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 21
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 243231 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 21:48:53
    
    01304 - Radio 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 21
                        Reset counter: 81
                        Mileage: 243231 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 21:48:57
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 1K0 920 952 C
       Component: IMMO            3HL 1012  
       Shop #: WSC 09416 444 68462
       VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
       Coding: 0001269
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 366318DB4107F4FF4D-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 326B24CBAD6FE8DF61-8066
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Mileage: 3200 km
                        Temperature: 7.0įC
                        Voltage: 12.10 V
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
    
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
       Component:    KSG              0401  
       Coding: 137803281B09058F880F048051A0
       Shop #: WSC 09416 444 68462
       VCID: 74E7E2D317FBA6EFB3-8020
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
       Coding: 0001269
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 377D15DF460D0DF756-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 31692BC7A869D3C718-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 326B24CBAD6FE8DF61-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:34)--------------------------

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    Engine Control Module is off-line. Check power and ground connections to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Engine Control Module is off-line. Check power and ground connections to it.

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    I can check them right at the ecu correct ? Also would appreciate it if you verified the wires I need to check as well . Just to make sure Iím right , thereís 2 brown ground wires and thereís 4 power wires a red/green, white , yellow/purple, red/black

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imprez07 View Post
    I can check them right at the ecu correct ? Also would appreciate it if you verified the wires I need to check as well . Just to make sure I’m right , there’s 2 brown ground wires and there’s 4 power wires a red/green, white , yellow/purple, red/black
    If that's what the WD for your car shows (check from erwin) ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    If that's what the WD for your car shows (check from erwin) ...
    honestly cant find a diagram . ive been using mitchell prodemand for alot of stuff but it doesnt show power and ground pinouts, i assumed those were the wires because of a video i saw. i do know t121/62 the red black wire has power and is in good shape.

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