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    VW T6 DSG torque limiter removal??

    hi all

    i have just purchaced VDCS to make some changes to my 2016 T6 DSG. one of the changes i would like to make is removal of the torque limiter within the DSG/engine. before i purchased VDCS i done some reasearch to see what i had to do, and seen most people de activated "start vibration control" or somthing along those lines. i received the vdcs lead today ran straight out to my van after i set it all up and im now sat here scratching my head as i cannot find the option i need? i have found things similer to do with torque settings but the options seem to have to be a numerical value as apposed to activate/deactivate.

    the reason for this is i currently have a CAFA 180 bi tdi engine with a stage 1 mapp. I would like to actually feel the added torque i released from the mapp!!!.

    sorry if this has been covered many times but i could not find much about it.

    Thanks

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    Go to a good tuner, and make proper DSG remap. Removing limiter only will destroy your gearbox. Raise TQ limit, raise clutch pressures, change shift times and you will see a diference. And no, this is not possible with VCDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge. View Post
    hi all

    i have just purchaced VDCS to make some changes to my 2016 T6 DSG. one of the changes i would like to make is removal of the torque limiter within the DSG/engine. before i purchased VDCS i done some reasearch to see what i had to do, and seen most people de activated "start vibration control" or somthing along those lines. i received the vdcs lead today ran straight out to my van after i set it all up and im now sat here scratching my head as i cannot find the option i need? i have found things similer to do with torque settings but the options seem to have to be a numerical value as apposed to activate/deactivate.

    the reason for this is i currently have a CAFA 180 bi tdi engine with a stage 1 mapp. I would like to actually feel the added torque i released from the mapp!!!.

    sorry if this has been covered many times but i could not find much about it.

    Thanks
    You need to do extensive research in my opinion it a going to cause wear tear a lot more quicker the Usain lightning bolt. Had a golf Mk7.5 gone within 2 months car will not move an inch. luckily I was under warranty even than they haggled me over because Clutch and flywheel were not part of the warranty it’s a service requirement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge. View Post
    i cannot find the option i need?:
    Please post an Auto-Scan so we can see exactly what TCU you've got.

    But please note: I'm not in any way endorsing this change. I believe the other folks are correct; it's not the right way to do this.

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    Code:
    Wednesday,19,February,2020,17:27:00:01227
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
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    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
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    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
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    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
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       Serial number: 0771 342150432
       Coding: 030B1A73
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       VCID: 6889BFFF927397F7615-803C
    
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       Serial number: 62327414091261125510
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:49, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.8V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
    Last edited by Uwe; 02-19-2020 at 05:33 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    thanks for replys, yes i understand the risks involved. when the van was mapped the company who did it offered to "match the torque of the mapp to the DSG" for a fee of course!!, quite high too!!. i was offered this as a option without the need for a remap of the dsg tune. i was told that if i had a DSG tune too then i would not be charged for the torque match as it would be part of the DSG remap. this is when i started to look into to it myself and realised/thought that what they were offering as a option was to plug in a VCDS and carry out the adjustment of the torque settings. The price of the torque match was just over half the price of a vcds cable!!

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    I see no option for anything like "start vibration control" in that TCU software.

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