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    Skoda Octavia (MY2017) Memory Seat Saga

    Firstly apologies as i am new here. Had VCDS a while but this has finally got me scratching my head so in need of assistance.

    The car is a UK registered 2016 Skoda Octavia VRS 230 (MY2017). I recently discovered that the previous owner had removed the drivers seat memory buttons ( i suspect they were damaged and the car was returned on lease) and fitted a blank panel to hide the hole and avoid any charges. erWin stated it as factory fit, and reviewing old brochures confirmed this.

    On investigation the wiring was found and a new memory button purchased and fitted. VCDS talks to the module however it is stating invalid data and although completes the basic setting calibration, all sensors report a loss of basic settings. Looking at the coding it appears to be confused and stated it being LHD when its actually RHD. Also it stated memory was saved through the keys. This would explain the Seat menu in the infotainment which mentioned personalised key settings and a tick option, however this did not allow you to select it. This vehicle is not equipped with Kessy, and as far as i'm aware this was the system that the seat memory saved to when using the key memory.

    My understanding is that the module code or software is all out of shape for whatever reason. A bit of research would appear this isn't uncommon with owners returning the car to dealers for re-installation of software. This car is out of warranty so if you guys/gals and VCDS can help that would be fantastic!

    Code:
    Tuesday,11,February,2020,17:43:05:11380
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: TMBKE7NE8H0XXXXXX  
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: NE-SK37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 32 36 42 44 52 55 5F A5 A9
             
    
    VIN: TMBKE7NE8H0025716   Mileage: 113526km-70541miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CHHA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 C    HW: 06K 907 425 B
       Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002  
       Revision: --H13---    
       Coding: 0C1D00124424010B0000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259C 001005
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259C.rod
       VCID: 2E05F277F09582376BB-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 1010 0001
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 0D9 300 020 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
       Component: DQ250-6V MQB  H54 4901  
       Revision: 06354004    Serial number: TFK01606020811
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
       VCID: 1E6522B7803512B7DBB-804A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    10657 - RPM Signal from ECU 
              P0726 00 [002] - Implausible Signal
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System 
              P1734 00 [002] - -
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:* 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 AF    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AF
       Component: ESC           H62 0398  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 51486000000547
       Coding: 1C07939154221971407E060141C92938C92A98026082947610410071C02903
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 035019
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_035_SK37.rod
       VCID: 75B71D1B5543F1EFEA1-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5E0 907 044 AC    HW: 5E0 907 044 AC
       Component: Climatronic   H04 1601  
       Revision: 00001K07    
       Coding: 02110004000110011005000000101002
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 006142
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_006.rod
       VCID: 66954A5718E50A7753B-8032
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Geber für Kältemitteldruck/Kältemitteltemperatur: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 AK    HW: 5Q0 937 086 AK
       Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 865812061602MW
       Coding: 0F001B46C24722FB07A04082B10C07280000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015.rod
       VCID: 035373C30B97DF5FD45-8056
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E2 955 119     HW: 5E2 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS371 160515  041 0570 
       Serial number:         160527090358
       Coding: 0E5DFD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLHS  042 0105 
       Serial number: S5Y16M06D15H20M38S29
       Coding: 00885D
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 171     HW: 5Q0 951 171 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY161171GF5
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
       Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0313 
       Serial number: 00000000000066143423
    
       Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    203016 - Unlock Switch in Rear Lid Handle 
              B140B 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 113526 km
                        Date: 2020.02.11
                        Time: 17:16:23
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 K    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0054  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331615306548
       Coding: 0031051051
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002026
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 43D3B3C34B171F5F945-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 F    HW: 5Q0 907 572 F
       Component: ACC Bosch MQB H05 0400  
       Serial number: 20051604381603
       Coding: 00001600FE0339
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001016
       ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
       VCID: 3A2DCE273CDD5E97C73-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AS    HW: 3Q0 959 655 AS
       Component: Airbag VW20   013 0200  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003SQPBKGR7Y
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C5400CC008800000065
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X.rod
       VCID: 0F7B4FF357DFAB3F40D-805A
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 002 205 16
       Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
       Serial number: 3576U00000067B595B1K
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 002 105 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
       Serial number: 3586U000000405795B18
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 805 16
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  301 0148 
       Serial number: 3516R32AA860A0000005
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 805 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  301 0148 
       Serial number: 3526RDFF7850A000000U
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 802 805 16
       Component: FrontSensor_D  304 0149 
       Serial number: 3556V992D460B000000I
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 T    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
       Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0235  
       Revision: FF034034    Serial number: 20160615500621
       Coding: 1410
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
       ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
       VCID: 43D3B3C34B171F5F945-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5E0 920 956 C    HW: 5E0 920 956 C
       Component: KOMBI         305 8311  
       Coding: 27AD09086984A600018A6A031000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 2C01F87FC689F02745F-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    1048578 - No Basic Setting 
              B2010 00 [009] - -
              [Steuergerät keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 113526 km
                        Date: 2020.02.11
                        Time: 17:18:25
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
       Component: GW MQB High   128 1265  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0004948516
       Coding: 030100047F085900EB00026B1C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_013.rod
       VCID: 7CA1083F7669A0A795F-8028
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3V0 919 719 B    HW: 3V0 919 719 B
       Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H02 0150 
       Serial number: 000000000A3035310516
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 J    HW: 5Q0 915 181 J
       Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050 
       Serial number: 75410803001606023790
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 32: Differential Locks (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 E    HW: 0CQ 907 554 E
       Component: Quersperre    H52 8042  
       Serial number: HA1-00003.05.16
       Coding: 0201
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_LockElectHA1VW37X 001007
       ROD: EV_LockElectHA1VW37X.rod
       VCID: 47CBA7D37F2F337F48D-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J810)       Labels:* None
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 760 C    HW: 5Q0 959 760 C
       Component: Sitzmemory    H09 0024  
       Serial number: Y0007SDJ23344
       Coding: 0014000000000100012281808080000000008181000000F400
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide 002022
       ROD: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide.rod
       VCID: 3D27C53B2DF369AFE21-8068
    
    4 Faults Found:
    9654868 - Motor for Lumbar Support Fore/Aft Adjustment 
              B1352 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 113526 km
                        Date: 2020.02.11
                        Time: 17:37:10
    
    9654612 - Motor for Lumbar Support Height Adjustment 
              B1351 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 113526 km
                        Date: 2020.02.11
                        Time: 17:37:10
    
    10487040 - invalid data record 
              B2005 00 [009] - -
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 113526 km
                        Date: 2020.02.11
                        Time: 17:37:10
    
    10489856 - No Basic Setting 
              B2010 00 [009] - -
              [keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung/Adaption]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 193
                        Mileage: 113526 km
                        Date: 2020.02.11
                        Time: 17:37:10
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593 E    HW: 5Q4 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        010 0031  
       Serial number: 0000204417946 
       Coding: 001D0020DE01040000001100
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 47CBA7D37F2F337F48D-8012
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
       Serial number: 00000000000010371636
       Coding: 1D0200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 K    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5072  
       Coding: 9107
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
       VCID: 3A2DCE273CDD5E97C73-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 E    HW: 5Q4 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       010 0031  
       Serial number: 0000204293167 
       Coding: 001D0020DE01040000001100
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 46D5AAD778252A77B3B-8012
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
       Serial number: 00000000000010347045
       Coding: 050200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
       Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 03DE00003F000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
       VCID: 40D9BCCF5A010447897-8014
    
       Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 B    HW: 1T0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo links  H06 0009 
       Coding: 3E0000
    
       Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 B    HW: 1T0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo rechts  H06 0009 
       Coding: 3E0000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 3V0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 035 874 B    HW: 5Q0 035 874 B
       Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H30 0353  
       Serial number: SKZAZ2S5097274
       Coding: 03735201FF00000011111201008800002F0101C601200100CE
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW41.rod
       VCID: 3333E3031BB7AFDF045-8066
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 605 J    HW: 5E0 919 605 J
       Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav  H43 1031 
       Serial number: SKZ8Z9SLH00WX2      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5L0 051 236 H    HW: -----------
       Component: ECE 2016  --- 0521 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-653.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 980 653 G    HW: 5Q0 980 653 
       Component: MQB_MFK       H07 0060  
       Serial number: 10000571482   
       Coding: 0101010001030306000400000100010100
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
       ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370.rod
       VCID: 3C21C83F36E960A7D5F-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
       Part No SW: 5E0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
       Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0001  
       Serial number: 160505201804
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
       ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
       VCID: 698F416B09FB250F7E9-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:40, VBatt start/end: 13.2V/13.2V)-----------

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    you don't need KESSY, seat memory is associated to whatever keyfob is in the ignition when you store the seat settings. so if your wife has another keyfob, when she unlocks the car the seat will move to her setting.

    with that being said, your module 36 has an "invalid data record" error. it means that it has lots parameterization, and this means that:
    1) VCDS cannot upload parameters so you need to go to the dealer;
    2) you'll never be able to perform basic settings, and thus to use seat memories, until you fix the "invalid data record".

    sorry buddy...
    my Golf came out of the factory with 13 ECUs. now she has 20. and counting

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    Ah right. I thought on my particular car it would just be on the three memory buttons on the seat base.

    Thanks for the description on the invalid data record though. Although I can’t fix it myself at least it’s a definitive ‘must go to Škoda’. Always worth a try first I say.

    Much appreciated and I’ll see if the dealer can work out if mine is equipped with the key memory option as I notice in the code there was a non key option hence me thinking it was only for kessy.

    Many thanks!!

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    my parents have an Octavia with no Kessy and it works like that, any of the 3 memories you store gets remembered to the current keyfob.

    the official scan tool of a dealer, named ODIS, has a guided fault finding function and will take care of everything. if they can't sort it out, go to another dealer
    my Golf came out of the factory with 13 ECUs. now she has 20. and counting

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    Fab thanks for the info. I imagine it’s pretty common so I’ll head on over there when I get a chance. Just a shame they are all not very close

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