Mk5 jetta 2.5 crank no start

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I took a chance and bought a cheap jetta that had a no start condition . Ive got the car to at least crank now but I cant get vcds to connect to the ecu .Ive checked fuses and they are good and ive checked wiring from ecu to roughly the firewall and i cant visibly see or feel any bumps in the wiring . any suggestions or places to look
 
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What kind of VCDS cable are you using?

What do/does the LED(s) do when you plug it into the car (only the car, no computer on the other end).

Does it connect to any of the other modules in the car, like the CAN Gateway?

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What kind of VCDS cable are you using?

What do/does the LED(s) do when you plug it into the car (only the car, no computer on the other end).

Does it connect to any of the other modules in the car, like the CAN Gateway?

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I can get you an answer to the led question tomorrow. I did do a scan and this is what I got . the car kept blowing fuse sb10 for the ecu so I searched and didn’t see anything , eventually I unplugged the secondary air injection pump which stopped blowing the fuse and allowed the car to crank but still not Start . The battery is bad in this car and I eventually will replace but I wanna make sure it runs before I dump a bunch of money in it



https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21...36e2f74ce92cc037b9530160b312&oe=5E382D62&dl=1
 
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What kind of VCDS cable are you using?

What do/does the LED(s) do when you plug it into the car (only the car, no computer on the other end).

Does it connect to any of the other modules in the car, like the CAN Gateway?

-Uwe-

The light is solid green . I did another scan but it’s not really any different than the first
 
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Sorry to keep posting but I did another scan and it’s different now that I got the car to crank . I don’t fully understand the scan but a couple of the errors are because of the headlight switch. And dimmer switch and the footwell light on the drivers side being disconnected.


Code:
 Sunday,02,February,2020,16:11:43:16521
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWRF71K66M630543   License Plate: 
Mileage: 243230km-151136mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: 3VWRF71K66M630543   Mileage: 243230km-151136miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Revision: 00T12001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 408F7E0313C34A4FE7-8014

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 DK
   Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70EFEEC363E39ACF57-8024

2 Faults Found:
00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000000107702
   Coding: 04050E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0402  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

7 Faults Found:
02394 - Parking Light Left Front (M1) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.35 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.35 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01800 - Light Switch (E1) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 243231 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 243231 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.35 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.35 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.35 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 1S AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300  
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD02JXR   
   Coding: 0012627
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2E5330BBB957CC3F05-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME0A1B04412

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME0866701CC

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME07385E69J

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME073B26276

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME07104070M

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0710427B-

2 Faults Found:
02511 - Control Module for Seat Occupied Recognition (J706) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
02511 - Control Module for Seat Occupied Recognition (J706) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH    HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
   Component: J0527           034 0070  
   Coding: 0000021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFD6E30B93C28F9F-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 952 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1012  
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800105423817F
   Coding: 3D3F0340071002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E

3 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 243231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:48:52

01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 21
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 243231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:48:53

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 21
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 243231 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:48:57


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 952 C
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1012  
   Shop #: WSC 09416 444 68462
   VCID: 2A5B3CAB85BFA01FD9-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001269
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 366318DB4107F4FF4D-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326B24CBAD6FE8DF61-8066

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 3200 km
                    Temperature: 7.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                    Voltage: 12.00 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 137803281B09058F880F048051A0
   Shop #: WSC 09416 444 68462
   VCID: 74E7E2D317FBA6EFB3-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001269
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 377D15DF460D0DF756-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 31692BC7A869D3C718-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 326B24CBAD6FE8DF61-8066

No fault code found.

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Engine Control Module is off-line. Check power and ground connections to it.

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Engine Control Module is off-line. Check power and ground connections to it.

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I can check them right at the ecu correct ? Also would appreciate it if you verified the wires I need to check as well . Just to make sure I’m right , there’s 2 brown ground wires and there’s 4 power wires a red/green, white , yellow/purple, red/black
 
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I can check them right at the ecu correct ? Also would appreciate it if you verified the wires I need to check as well . Just to make sure I’m right , there’s 2 brown ground wires and there’s 4 power wires a red/green, white , yellow/purple, red/black
If that's what the WD for your car shows (check from erwin) ...
 
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If that's what the WD for your car shows (check from erwin) ...
honestly cant find a diagram . ive been using mitchell prodemand for alot of stuff but it doesnt show power and ground pinouts, i assumed those were the wires because of a video i saw. i do know t121/62 the red black wire has power and is in good shape.
 
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Logged on and paid for a factory diagram how can you tell which colors are power wires .
Follow the wires on the WD, the ones that go back to the fuses are the power wires.

There's a thread on here about "How to read a WD", I can't find it at the moment but I'm sure someone will post a link ;)
 
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Maybe a stupid question but I’ve looked the diagrams over what wires would power up the ecu .
 
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Turned out to be computer for anyone having similar symptoms. Car only starts for 2 seconds before shutting off . Will be sending the computer away to have the immobilizer taken care of
 
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